MaggieD
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megaprogman said:I consider suffrage in a democracy to be fundamentally linked to human value, and as they say "all men are created equal"
No, I don't believe people become less valuable if they are poor.
"all men are created equal"
(Question prompted by a recent post.)
If 37% of Americans pay no income tax isn't there a real danger that these same people don't CARE how much our government spends? Don't WANT to control entitlements?
Why should people who don't "put their money where their mouth is" be allowed a voice in determining how money is spent?
My signature line reads: "Those who rob from Peter to pay Paul will always have Paul's support." Isn't there a real danger in that?
Seriously, can those of you supporting this idea be any more heartless and neanderthal?
I do.
That's a fallacy. Pretty sure more people would mourn the death of Bill Gates than the death of Soccer Mom Sue.
Because of cancer, my wife is handicapped and cannot work nor drive.
I'd like to believe that she is still a citizen and cares about her country.
Seriously, can those of you supporting this idea be any more heartless and neanderthal?
I do.
That's a fallacy. Pretty sure more people would mourn the death of Bill Gates than the death of Soccer Mom Sue.
Well I am a full time student so I don't have a job hence I don't pay any income tax. So, why should I not be allowed to vote because I am a student?
Ha! That would be....according to whom?I should add that this applies to people who are both reasonable and rational.
I don't know who soccer mom Sue is, but I'd venture to guess that....mourn? Really mourn? Probably about equal.Pretty sure more people would mourn the death of Bill Gates than the death of Soccer Mom Sue.
Sure I could. Maybe by suggesting that no public funds go toward someone who isn't putting into the pot, and being apathetic if your insurance carrier drops her.
If you want to break rocks, I can keep going. I'll break out that large E word.
so....if you have money, you are better than a guy/girl who doesnt? horseshytI do.
That's a fallacy. Pretty sure more people would mourn the death of Bill Gates than the death of Soccer Mom Sue.
Apparently the writer of the Declaration of Independence agreed since he obviously DIDN'T mean "all men were created equal." He meant "all free property-owning MALES" are created equal. Well, I, for one, am glad it evolved. ;-)
@ Megaprogram -- My suggestion doesn't imply that people are less valuable because they're poor. Just that those who don't contribute to the pot possibly shouldn't have a voice in how its spent.
Apparently the writer of the Declaration of Independence agreed since he obviously DIDN'T mean "all men were created equal." He meant "all free property-owning MALES" are created equal. Well, I, for one, am glad it evolved. ;-)
@ 2000 -- You believe people are less valuable because they're poor? How very very sad. You said:I don't know who soccer mom Sue is, but I'd venture to guess that....mourn? Really mourn? Probably about equal.
Sure I could. Maybe by suggesting that no public funds go toward someone who isn't putting into the pot, and being apathetic if your insurance carrier drops her.
If you want to break rocks, I can keep going. I'll break out that large E word.
@ DRZ -- Ha! That would be....according to whom?
so....if you have money, you are better than a guy/girl who doesnt? horseshyt
Excellent point.A vote isn't just determining how money is spent. Some people might vote based off of moral issues or foreign policy. To tell someone that they don't earn enough money to vote would be taking a dozen steps back.
A pregnant, teenaged pill-popper on the street is definitely less valuable to the world than say the president or some top Ceos, hell shes not even as valuable as the line cook at mcdonadls. To suggest otherwise is thinking with your emotions and not your head.
(Question prompted by a recent post.)
If 37% of Americans pay no income tax isn't there a real danger that these same people don't CARE how much our government spends? Don't WANT to control entitlements?
Why should people who don't "put their money where their mouth is" be allowed a voice in determining how money is spent?
My signature line reads: "Those who rob from Peter to pay Paul will always have Paul's support." Isn't there a real danger in that?
I've never really been a fan on instant citizenship upon birth
Protecting basic rights equally, is fine.
Allowing everyone the full privileges of citizenship, that should be earned.
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