I know that Ukraine is not a member of NATO. That doesn't mean that the invasion of Ukraine is not a threat to Europe and NATO. I don't want us to go in but if we did and got right out I would not be nearly as ticked as I would have been two weeks ago.Ukraine is NOT a member of NATO. There is absolutely zero justification for NATO sending forces into Ukraine.
If there was genocide, then it would be a different story. At this juncture, it does not appear as though Russia is committing genocide and slaughtering large numbers of civilians.
Ukraine is NOT a member of NATO. There is absolutely zero justification for NATO sending forces into Ukraine.
If there was genocide, then it would be a different story. At this juncture, it does not appear as though Russia is committing genocide and slaughtering large numbers of civilians.
NATO getting involved by actually joining in the fight is likely a good way to have nukes launched. Putin has as much as said so.I know that Ukraine is not a member of NATO. That doesn't mean that the invasion of Ukraine is not a threat to Europe and NATO. I don't want us to go in but if we did and got right out I would not be nearly as ticked as I would have been two weeks ago.
The UN defines it pretty clearly:What is your (personal?) definition of the number (percentage?) of civilian casualties which would constitute ‘genocide’?
I think this is one of those threads where people will purposefully try to derail a conversation because they don't have anything of actual value to add.I think this will be one of those threads where people accidentally admit that they're for Russia.
The UN defines it pretty clearly:
United Nations Office on Genocide Prevention and the Responsibility to Protect
Genocide Prevention and the Responsibility to Protectwww.un.org
There is a difference between war and genocide.I did not see any numbers mentioned. Are you asserting that Russian military forces are not currently killing folks simply for being ’in the group of’ Ukrainian civilians?
There is a difference between war and genocide.
Russia is currently committing an act of war, which is awful. But they are not committing genocide.
The two are different.
Difference Between War and Genocide
Both war and genocide involve death and destruction. They entail extreme violence, socio-economic devastation, and forced migration among others. Also, these unfortunate conflicts have been present in the earliest civilizations. Moreover, war may be usedwww.differencebetween.net
I did not see any numbers mentioned. Are you asserting that Russian military forces are not currently killing folks simply for being ’in the group of’ Ukrainian civilians?
At first, I was a no but I have changed my mind. I think NATO should go in, drive Russia back and get out. Russia is a serious world threat and Ukraine is unfairly bearing the brunt for all of Europe. It doesn't seem right to me to let this happen to the brave Ukrainian people but is their an appetite to defend them?
OK, then back to my initial question - how many dead (or fleeing) Ukrainian civilians would it take to cross your line between an unprovoked military invasion and a genocide?
I think this will be one of those threads where people accidentally admit that they're for Russia.
case in point.God forbid the Russian side of the argument is voiced.
case in point.
don't worry, you won't be the only person in this thread who accidently shows their support for Putin as he slaughters civilians.Of course. Why should anyone but your august self voice an opinion. An inability to stand contrary opinion is intellectual cowardice. Each argument stands or falls on its own merit. If your argument against Russia is strong- and I am not saying it is not- then it has to be from its merits, not from pretending away the contrary arguments.
The difference is the intention, not the number of dead bodies.OK, then back to my initial question - how many dead (or fleeing) Ukrainian civilians would it take to cross your line between an unprovoked military invasion and a genocide?
No.At first, I was a no but I have changed my mind. I think NATO should go in, drive Russia back and get out. Russia is a serious world threat and Ukraine is unfairly bearing the brunt for all of Europe. It doesn't seem right to me to let this happen to the brave Ukrainian people but is their an appetite to defend them?
At first, I was a no but I have changed my mind. I think NATO should go in, drive Russia back and get out. Russia is a serious world threat and Ukraine is unfairly bearing the brunt for all of Europe. It doesn't seem right to me to let this happen to the brave Ukrainian people but is their an appetite to defend them?
I agree, if NATO and the US had stood up to Russia ..most likely an invasion wouldn't have happened.At first, I was a no but I have changed my mind. I think NATO should go in, drive Russia back and get out. Russia is a serious world threat and Ukraine is unfairly bearing the brunt for all of Europe. It doesn't seem right to me to let this happen to the brave Ukrainian people but is their an appetite to defend them?
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