Missouri Mule
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skabanger13 said:who is it that makes sure we stay PC THE ACLU, destroying our country from the inside.
TechDad said:Out of curiosity, how exactly would one tell whether someone is a muslim at the border? Or are we talking about those who are ethnically arab?
TechDad said:If muslims shouldn't be allowed in the country does that mean the millions of muslims with US citizenship should be stripped of thier citizenship and deported? How does this fit with freedom of religion?
TechDad said:Also, is destruction of the US part of the ACLU's charter, I don't remember seeing it there.
TechDad said:Just curious.
Also, is destruction of the US part of the ACLU's charter, I don't remember seeing it there.
skabanger13 said:for god sake they support freaking nambla, north American man boy love association, tell me theirs not something wrong with them when they support a group of people that believes it is ok to sleep with young boys. but thats the ACLU for you
TechDad said:Ok, so ethnically arab visitors to the US should be turned back at the border. I understand your sentiment but disagree with it. How will "ethnicity" be determined? Are you talking the passport that the person carries? Just thier look?
The fact is that such an action will not protect the US from attacks. There are too many way to get into the US that would circumvent this. On the other hand isolating ourselves from the muslim world will not do anything to build relationships and connections that can contribute to real intelligence that could actually prevent an attack and perhaps even contribute to improved relations and perception of the US abroad.
In short a banning of ethnic arabs (aside from being unfeasable) gives only a false security and at the same time works against long term US interests.
Gandhi>Bush said:The ACLU doesn't support NAMBLA they support their right to exist.
skabanger13 said:for god sake they support freaking nambla, north American man boy love association, tell me theirs not something wrong with them when they support a group of people that believes it is ok to sleep with young boys. but thats the ACLU for you
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man_argumentAs a rhetorical term, "straw man" describes a point of view that was created in order to be easily defeated in argument; the creator of a "straw man" argument does not accurately reflect the best arguments of his or her opponents, but instead sidesteps or mischaracterizes them so as to make the opposing view appear weak or ridiculous.
Gandhi>Bush said:The ACLU doesn't support NAMBLA they support their right to exist.
skabanger13 said:ha nambla's right to exist, thay should all be locked up.
TechDad said:What you are doing here is engaging in a straw argument.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man_argument
As has been mentioned, they are supporting the right of an organization that doesn't advocate the breaking of any law to exist, not promoting the views of that organization. To go from this to "the ACLU wants to destroy the US" is a big jump and the argument doesn't support the conclusion.
This isn't to say that you can't be opposed to the ACLU. It is perfectly fair to say that nambla goes too far for any organization to support. But to carry that over to say that the ACLU wants to destroy the US is simply intellectually dishonest.
Or advocating an unhealthy relationship with boys.. But hey thats just my opinion.Kelzie said:For what? Having an organization? That's not against the law. Maybe we should lock them up for thinking bad thoughts too.:roll:
Kelzie said:For what? Having an organization? That's not against the law. Maybe we should lock them up for thinking bad thoughts too.:roll:
skabanger13 said:The ACLU has supported in court members of NAMBLA who have been CAUGHT in situations involving pedophilia,
It is also a proven fact that alot of the members of nambla HAVE engaged in situations with young boys.
An organization of baby rapers should not be allowed to exist, it SHOULD be against the law.
skabanger13 said:AND i would just like to add that I think if people get off on THOUGHTS of little boys they SHOULD be thrown in jail..
Kelzie said:Yeah well I believe people that eat meat should be thrown in jail. :roll:
Get real. That sounds like any one of a number of a scary books. 1984 anyone?
And the ACLU was NOT defending illegal actions. They were defending the organization's right to exist. Coincedentely, NAMBLA is trying to get the law changed through legal channels. I can't see them having much luck, but the group does not encourage it's members to have sex with boys until it's legal.
first off what do you thank animals are for to be our friends, to look at? ther hear for us to kill and eat and make clothes.Kelzie said:Yeah well I believe people that eat meat should be thrown in jail. :roll:
Get real. That sounds like any one of a number of a scary books. 1984 anyone?
And the ACLU was NOT defending illegal actions. They were defending the organization's right to exist. Coincedentely, NAMBLA is trying to get the law changed through legal channels. I can't see them having much luck, but the group does not encourage it's members to have sex with boys until it's legal.
TechDad said:Out of curiosity, how exactly would one tell whether someone is a muslim at the border? Or are we talking about those who are ethnically arab?
If muslims shouldn't be allowed in the country does that mean the millions of muslims with US citizenship should be stripped of thier citizenship and deported? How does this fit with freedom of religion?
Just curious.
Also, is destruction of the US part of the ACLU's charter, I don't remember seeing it there.
Calm2Chaos said:Eating meat isn't illegal. ****ing a young boy is ..... And I have no doubt the ACLU will help them as much as they can to get the law changed, so they can sodimize any boy anywhere..
skabanger13 said:first off what do you thank animals are for to be our friends, to look at? ther hear for us to kill and eat and make clothes.
http://216.220.97.17/
Heres a little look into what NAMBLA stands for, their official website
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200402270920.asp
And here is the case the ACLU is representing NAMBLA on
Tell me there isnt something wrong with this organization
It never stops does it? Post after post after post demanding that America abandon our Constitution and way of life in order to preserve our way of life! What a pathetic concept. Of course the whole idea that we are unable to protect our freedoms without depriving ourselves of them is ignorance squared.Missouri Mule said:Unless we put into place a rigorous immigration program that could catch all the possible terrorists coming from Islamic countries we are just lining up in our own circular firing squad in the interest of "political correctness."
Pretty darn clear as to the objectivity of those words, you know? Modus operandi for Mule seems to be to write outlandish bigoted comments about Muslims and when the meaning of his words are discussed and exposed the very next post appears to backpedal and suggest that his words were not meant to condemn the more than 1 billion Muslims on this planet. However, it does not take a Jethro (6th grade educated brain) to read these words and know that they are bigoted words that clearly expose one's true beliefs.Originally Posted by Missouri Mule
I would rather take in a million Mexicans than to let in another Muslim and their demented religion.
Do you know what demented means:Originally Posted by Missouri Mule
I would rather take in a million Mexicans than to let in another Muslim and their demented religion.
demented
Mentally ill; insane.
adj. Yet another term of disgust used to describe a
malfunctioning program. The connotation in this case is that the
program works as designed, but the design is bad
Ah yes, so Constitutional, so legal, so wise, so well thought out. The perfect solution! This type of thinking can lead to "ethnic cleansing" if it is allowed to fester.Missouri Mule said:I am proposing that we cut off the further immigration of Muslim immigration to this country until they clean up their act
Oh really Mule? Written words as stupid as these written words clearly and without a doubt clarify the level of intelligence that fear mongers have achieved. Amazing!Missouri Mule said:In the ACLU's eyes, it is far better that a million Americans die a horrible death by a WMD than we question obvious suspects about their terrorist sympathies.
Reread the words that are in bold. Note the incredible bigotry of those words. Imagine writing "the Levis, Cohens and Goldbergs...."Missouri Mule said:We are instead forced to frisk 80 year old grandmothers in wheel chairs while the Abduls, Mohammads and Khalids are waved right through the turnstiles lest we offend their feelings. That's the reality of today's political correctness. It is also a prescription for national suicide.
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