Should Donald Trump be impeached?

[OscarLevant]

I constantly read and hear this question being asked and I say STOP. If Trump has done something that would bring about impeachment we should know in the next year or so, if not those who want him out of office will have their chance in 2020. Until then just STOP talking about it. It is getting not only on my nerves but probably a lot of peoples nerves. It is not a self fulfilling prophecy, just a stupid question by many of the talking heads to get people worked up enough to have them watch or listen to whatever media brings it up.

The fact that people are talking about it ought to say something about this president. I'm for holding off on the subject until the final report by Mueller is in, and what he does with that report.
Dems are playing to the opposition by talking about it so much, repubs are now putting out ads that "a dem congress will impeach trump", which is getting their base riled up, and more likely to vote where before those ads there was considerable apathy. For dems, opposition apathy is more desirable that opposition fear, talks of impeachment fan the flames of fear by repubs, and if repubs are good at one thing, it is fear mongering. My guess is that they would do it anyway, even if there were no talks of impeachment.

 

[Acadia]

We will.

And you do us (the left) a bigger favor, tell Trump and the GOP to keep up the deranged Tweets, the public abuse of all whom disagree, the on the spot policy, the constant drama, and the moral debauchery.

The Democrats won't need to even hold campaign rallies.eace

Deal, only if you tell the deranged liberals to keep screaming at the sky, knitting ***** hats and wearing vagina costumes.

 

[Acadia]

The fact that people are talking about it ought to say something about this president. I'm for holding off on the subject until the final report by Mueller is in, and what he does with that report.
Dems are playing to the opposition by talking about it so much, repubs are now putting out ads that "a dem congress will impeach trump", which is getting their base riled up, and more likely to vote where before those ads there was considerable apathy. For dems, opposition apathy is more desirable that opposition fear, talks of impeachment fan the flames of fear by repubs, and if repubs are good at one thing, it is fear mongering. My guess is that they would do it anyway, even if there were no talks of impeachment.

It says everything about the sore losers who hate Trump and want to see him gone by any means necessary. It says that they are following the cues of the likes of Hillary and Michelle Obama, who've given them permission to rebel viciously instead of accepting the election results and supporting common goals.
Fear mongering? Illiberals can't be beat at that. The sky is perpetually falling, hands constantly flapping and hair forever on fire.

I mean, we don't hold a candle!

 

[PLizzy]

Deal, only if you tell the deranged liberals to keep screaming at the sky, knitting ***** hats and wearing vagina costumes.

Vagina is pretty popular, just so you know. :bootyshake

 

[MrShangles]

He has already done enough to justify impeachment. Obstruction of Justice in and of itself is an incredibly serious crime which he has absolutely committed. The problem is that way too many stupid people don't seem to grasp the severity of his actions, and those people have enough power to prevent an impeachment.

Donald Trump is guilty of high crimes. The only question is whether or not we will have a jury with the mental capacity to understand that, and the political will to convict him. His supporters are so ****ing delusional, that there is no way they would believe he's guilty of any crime no matter how much evidence you put forth, and they would consider his impeachment to be an act of war. They would compare it to Dictators jailing their political opposition. They would try and make him out to be Nelson Mandela, and there is a decent chance it would spark a Civil War. But these consequences have nothing to do with his actualy guilty. He is guilty of Crimes against America whether his delusional followers will accept that reality or not.

PUT FORTH THE EVIDENCE.
The collusion investigation is still going on, so that blows the whole obstruction thingy up.


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[MrShangles]

You don't care, so don't ask.

I care, please enlighten us deplorable’s of your proof, oh great knowing one of all.
But you’re a regular liberal, judge and jury with no proof as usual.
Any link to CNN will be an automatic disqualification of anything you say is proof.


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[OscarLevant]

Donald Trump should be impeached when he does/or it is found out that he has done something to warrant impeachment. Until then, no.

Well, noted by need to impeach website, thus far the nation has witnessed the president commit the following acts.

Obstructing Justice

Violating the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution

Conspiring with Others to Commit Crimes Against the United States, and Attempting to Conceal Those Violations

Advocating Violence and Undermining Equal Protection Under the Law

Abusing the Pardon Power

Engaging in Conduct that Grossly Endangers the Peace and Security of the United States

Directing Law Enforcement to Investigate and Prosecute Political Adversaries for Improper and Unjustifiable Purposes

Undermining the Freedom of the Press

I don't think we have to "wait to find out".

 

[MrShangles]

I think Trump infiltrated your mind.

Actually Trumpsters would go out and see the proof of the iceberg and upon seeing the evidence they would try to turn the boat.


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[MrShangles]

You understand that multiple members of his campaign staff have already been indicted for this right? If Trump wasn't directing them and had no knowledge of it then he's incredibly incompetent. Believe what you want, but playing dumb is one of the surest signs someone knows they're guilty.

His staff got indictments for things not even involving Trump, so how does that prove anything.


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[KLATTU]

Well, noted by need to impeach website, thus far the nation has witnessed the president commit the following acts.




I don't think we have to "wait to find out", for if you haven't observed the above, you are not paying attention.

Don't forget.

Threatened the future of the planet by pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement.
Advocated the rise of White Supremacy,undermining progress on racial issues for decades to come.
Appointed a radical to the Supreme court.
Gave handouts to his corporate buddies in the form of a tax giveaway.
Turned a blind eye to police murdering innocent black men.

The list goes on forever...

 

[MrWonka]

His staff got indictments for things not even involving Trump, so how does that prove anything.

Just like how a bunch Al Capone's men got charged with illegal activities that had nothing to with Capone right?

 

[Acadia]

Vagina is pretty popular, just so you know. :bootyshake

Good to know. BTW...that's a hiney:lol:

 

[MrWonka]

PUT FORTH THE EVIDENCE.
The collusion investigation is still going on, so that blows the whole obstruction thingy up.

Failure to successfully obstruct the investigation doesn't mean he didn't try. You do understand that you can still be charged with attempted murder even if your victim survives right?

 

[OscarLevant]

And even if that is true, it isn't even a crime.

Items in articles of impeachment need not be "against the law", necessarily, for impeachment is not a criminal procedure, it is a political one.
The historical context of "high crimes and misdemeanors" is illuminated in this scholarly treatise:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1944808?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

 

[Acadia]

Failure to successfully obstruct the investigation doesn't mean he didn't try. You do understand that you can still be charged with attempted murder even if your victim survives right?

That all makes sense, except for the part where's there is no evidence that trump attempted obstruction. Again, awaiting the proof, or not, from Mueller.

 

[PLizzy]

I care, please enlighten us deplorable’s of your proof, oh great knowing one of all.
But you’re a regular liberal, judge and jury with no proof as usual.
Any link to CNN will be an automatic disqualification of anything you say is proof.


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You sound like the typical Trump supporter.

Uninformed, ignorant, stubborn, arrogant, and proud of it.

No need to waste my time with the likes of you -- you're like a wall.

 

[PLizzy]

Good to know. BTW...that's a hiney:lol:

I know.

My lady always tells me mine is the "cutest ever".:blushing:

And my mom ...

 

[OscarLevant]

Trump is an ignorant, inept and unstable authoritarian bigot. He is dangerous to the nation and the world. He is most certainly a threat to what's left of American democracy.

If he is impeachable it wouldn't happen until after mid-term elections.

The problems our democracy faces are not limited to Trump but also to a GOP Congress that represents monied interests rather than U.S. citizens. The leadership void created by the White House is being used by every shyster, semi-criminal and self serving member of Congress. They prosper because of Trump's ineptitude.

If Trump isn't impeached, and I do not believe he will be at this point, we will face Pence as president until 2020. In his own way Pence may be worse than Trump.

Look at Trump's cabinet. Trump is not going to be impeached. His cabinet is littered with grifters, seriously unqualified people, ideological zealots, religionists and self serving dullards. They are not going to impeach Trump.

I don't believe Pence would be worse than Trump. The mindboggling stupidity that evacuates his lips, and pettiness, his incessant and pathological lying and badgering of his predecessor, acts unbecoming of a president, his diminishing the office of the president, that if he were removed from office, it would come as great relief to the public morale (to the majority) and overall political tone of the body politic. Pence, though I disagree with his politics, though not much different that Trump, he would be a welcome relief, and much easier to defeat in 2020.

Trump might be indicted, and if that happens, the dynamic will shift. The pressure to impeach will grow so strong that repubs will ask Trump to step down, or face impeachment.

I'm just guessing, of course, I really don't know.

 

[OscarLevant]

Deal, only if you tell the deranged liberals to keep screaming at the sky, knitting ***** hats and wearing vagina costumes.

Beware of the Ides Of November. At least we won't be marching with tiki torches.

 

[KLATTU]

That all makes sense, except for the part where's there is no evidence that trump attempted obstruction. Again, awaiting the proof, or not, from Mueller.

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Hey it's coming! Any day now! Wait for it! These posters aren't gadfly kookernutters you know.You can tell they know the law backwards and forwards.

LAFFRIOT

 

[Moderate Right]

I constantly read and hear this question being asked and I say STOP. If Trump has done something that would bring about impeachment we should know in the next year or so, if not those who want him out of office will have their chance in 2020. Until then just STOP talking about it. It is getting not only on my nerves but probably a lot of peoples nerves. It is not a self fulfilling prophecy, just a stupid question by many of the talking heads to get people worked up enough to have them watch or listen to whatever media brings it up.

Please, have a little empathy. The liberal world is crumbling before their very eyes. This is all they have left in life.

 

[OscarLevant]

I care, please enlighten us deplorable’s of your proof, oh great knowing one of all.
But you’re a regular liberal, judge and jury with no proof as usual.
Any link to CNN will be an automatic disqualification of anything you say is proof.

You offer a statement that doesn't rise above petty posturing,
a slice of mediocrity that wouldn't pass muster with the Carl Sagan Baloney Detection Kit,
as an example of your standards being superior to that of CNN?

Nice.

 

[OscarLevant]

His staff got indictments for things not even involving Trump, so how does that prove anything.

Oh, I dunno, it might prove that Trump is incompetent, you know, for bringing in the "very best people" ?

 

[Acadia]

Beware of the Ides Of November. At least we won't be marching with tiki torches.

Ah, yes, the invoking of less than 100 imbeciles with torches.
Will you be marching donning a balaclava and brandishing a bat? You know, standard Antifa issue?

 

[Acadia]

Please, have a little empathy. The liberal world is crumbling before their very eyes. This is all they have left in life.

It sure seems that way!