Trump's still not guilty of going onto campuses and hectoring Jewish students, and his action in Iran has undermined the terrorists that took both Americans and Israelis hostage. But yeah, trying to cancel Trump for a politically incorrect term is SO much more important.
Thanks for agreeing that you have no business speaking for anyone who did lose loved ones in the ongoing attempt to quell terrorism.
And I don't give Biden any benefit of the doubt because of the many gaffes made on his watch, one of which includes leaving huge amounts of ordnance in the hands of our enemies. The point remains that whatever military deaths occurred during Trump's four years are par for the course when hostilities between the US and an enemy are active. It takes a special sort of loser to bring about military deaths during a withdrawal of forces.
If he can't walk and chew gum at the same time, that's a pretty serious personal failure and he should resign the presidency and let JD Vance do the job. The president is always "kept busy" with something or other; deal with it or step down so someone else can do it.
Unless we are fighting off an active invasion of American soil by the Taliban, "hostilities between the US and an enemy are active" is a totally optional state of affairs that Trump could have ended at any time during the four years he was president, and didn't do so. If he couldn't plan and execute a withdrawal plan in that amount of time, it's because he didn't want to. I don't care what else was on his plate. The country elects a president to deal with ALL of it, not whichever bits of the job he feels like doing.
You're conflating two separate tenures, but that's to be expected. TDS sufferers keep wanting to find some reason to make Trump step down, and their desperation has a sweet odor.
Sure, US soldiers occupying a country that harbored a mass murderer have the "option" not to attack when they're attacked. Why do you hate American soldiers so much that you want to see more of them killed? Because that's what happens in the short term if they just withdraw all the time. Your only response to Biden's hideous goofup is to say that Trump should've made things easy on Biden by getting out earlier. How con- VEE- nient.
Not to attack when we were attacked? It was almost exactly 20 years between 9/11/2001 and our withdrawal from Afghanistan. Most Afghans weren't even born then. What exactly do you think we were even accomplishing in Afghanistan into the 2020s?
"Withdraw all the time."
Trump should have made things easy on America by getting out earlier. Not as a favor to Biden, but because it's called doing what's best for America. You know, the president's job.
Oh, and what is it he was fighting in college campuses supposedly? I heard it was anti semitism. So he can use anti semitism against us at home but abroad he gets to leverage anti semitism? Maga only cares about Israel and the subject of anti semitism comes up. Cause Jews are props.Trump's still not guilty of going onto campuses and hectoring Jewish students, and his action in Iran has undermined the terrorists that took both Americans and Israelis hostage. But yeah, trying to cancel Trump for a politically incorrect term is SO much more important.
If you weren't blinded by your desire to find a gotcha, "attack when we were attacked" would have connoted to you what went on in Afghanistan in the 20 years after we justifiably occupied Afghanistan. I mentioned 9/11 because the Afghan leaders were incredibly stupid to defy us, though they did succeed in giving Osama time to decamp to our "ally," Pakistan. You tried to place all the military fatalities in the country during Trump's tenure on his head. How do you think those fatalities occurred? Did they all come about from attacks on US servicemen by noble freedom fighters? No, US forces were frequently being attacked by Taliban insurgents fighting a guerilla war, and that's what I was talking about. How many US servicemen died in that country during Obama's EIGHT years? But you don't care about that, only that soldiers died on Trump's watch.
I was talking, and am still talking, about the clumsiness and stupidity of Dopey Joes withdrawal, not about the principle of withdrawal once it was increasingly obvious that the Afghan people wanted the "strong" leadership of the Taliban. Obviously, since Trump was in favor of the withdrawal-- something Obama didn't address in his eight years-- I concur with his view that there was no point in remaining in the country. But you imperil soldiers' lives if you hurry to leave; it does, and did, embolden insurgents to attack our forces since they don't think there will be consequences."Withdraw all the time."
I reiterate, we were there for TWENTY YEARS.
I repeat my question: How many more years would you have liked for America to occupy Afghanistan, and what goals do you think we would have accomplished in that time? Do you want Donald Trump to re-invade Afghanistan right now?
Your belated (and weak) acknowledgement of Obama's failings in this respect (which I hadn't read while making the above response) don't change the fact that you're crediting Biden with following through on a plan Trump made while in office. Biden deserves no credit for the basic idea, but he does deserve censure for the sloppy execution, which many Mad Libs here have sought to blame on Trump.
Again, it's wild to see you compare an offhand use of a politically incorrect term to Joe Biden's empowerment of Mad Lib Progressivism at the expense of Jewish students.
It is laughable that you dismiss four years of Jewish marginalization by Biden so easily.
The argument that only the Jews in Israel are worth defending was bad enough before their dotard called us all Shylocks.Loving Israel is equal to loving Jews, in the right-wing brain.
What Jewish marginalization? You’re referring to some Israel policy aren’t you? Meanwhile, the sitting president marginalized us by calling us Shylocks. Maybe I just don’t have a home politically in America anymore.
Yeah, I have seen Trump’s efforts to kill speech. Too bad he didn’t kill his own just before calling American Jews “Shylocks”. You refer to as simply being “politically incorrect” and you want to be taken seriously on the subject, do I have that right?
You and other Republican supported these filthy wars. When BIden finally kept the promise to American troops to bring them home, it was Trump’s deal that he had to abide by. leaving Afghanistan was always going to be a cluster. We left with our tails between our legs, same with Iraq. The latter Republicans are still owed a reckoning on with the American people, especially after we saw you want to sacrifice more Americans for war with Iran.
What's uncritical is your rejection of it. They heard the testimonies and looked at the evidence, deliberated and came to a verdict. All you've done is cry about it. That isn't critical thinking. That's just you being frail.
Can you quote me ever attacking or persecuting Jews?
I don't hate on all jews, some of them are my favorite family members (by marriage) and they're all very progressive voters who think conservatives are racist as ****.
In fact I told my cousin who married him that we get him in any potential divorce. He's one of the most delightful and sincere human beings I've ever met. Also looks a little like a young Tom Cruise so I call him Risky Business. We also have a pretty decent idea from decades of data for who Jewish Americans tend to support politically and it isn't the Right.
It's an opinion piece. It detail things the author feels Biden did to encourage anti-Semitism.
Why does that matter? I don't agree any jews should be persecuted, you just fan ficitioned that out of your asshole.
So if the initial invasion was justified, then America is justified in occupying the country literally forever as long as someone fights back?
OK, not all of them. I'll give Trump roughly the same 6-9 month grace period that I gave to Biden, for the war he inherited. That should be enough time to plan and execute a withdrawal if that's what he wanted to do. Trump is responsible for all the others though, because he made the decision to continue occupying Afghanistan for those four years he was in office.
Obama was no example of good governance when it came to Afghanistan either. He is very much to blame as well.
What is your definition of "hurrying to leave"? Again, the war went on for TWENTY YEARS. Trump had four years to withdrawal. Hell, Biden himself took 7 months, which isn't excessive but not exactly a short amount of time. If Trump can't get it done in four years, then it's not about hurrying to leave. It's about not wanting to leave.
Trump had four years and didn't execute a withdrawal. "Making a plan" and not doing it doesn't get him any credit. He had plenty of time.
Biden inherited a war and smartly chose to end it. It's unclear if the casualties during the withdrawal were preventable if America had acted differently (perhaps they were), but what is indisputable is that Trump had 5x the casualties in Afghanistan during his watch.
If those particular Jews supported marginalizing Jewish-Americans at those respective colleges, then of course they're part of the quest to reduce the majority of Jews to second-class status. I can only assume they've substituted some other personal identity in place of their Jewish heritage-- being a Socialist, for example.
Yesterday's meme is just about as fresh as yesterday's ice cream left out in the sun.Loving Israel is equal to loving Jews, in the right-wing brain.
Is Biden a dotard for doing the same thing in your little world?
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I gave you a citation of the marginalization in post 759, as well as Trump's correct response to it.What Jewish marginalization? You’re referring to some Israel policy aren’t you? Meanwhile, the sitting president marginalized us by calling us Shylocks. Maybe I just don’t have a home politically in America anymore.
See post 771.
I didn't know Obama was a Republican. What did he do in his eight-year tenure to end Afghan occupation?
Are you admitting that you are a Mad Lib dimwit? That's who I said was guilty of persecuting Jews in this country, and that one of their main justifications was that Israel was covalent to colonialism. How about you take a stand on that subject? Is Israel a colonial project?
I don't hate on all jews, some of them are my favorite family members (by marriage) and they're all very progressive voters who think conservatives are racist as ****.
Great deflection from your refusal to condemn Biden's discriminatory DEI policies.Why does that matter? I don't agree any jews should be persecuted, you just fan ficitioned that out of your asshole.