Why? So in 2 weeks they say the new variant is resistant to the vaccine. OK now what? Wait 4-6 months unprotected from Delta which is still the dominant variant? No thanks.
Snort. Another Faux article of questionable truth.And, I suppose most of you might remember this as well. These two were highly respected individuals and many a doc voiced concern at this loss of expertise at a critical time.
Senior FDA officials to step down over disagreement with White House on booster shots
Two Food and Drug Administration senior officials are reportedly stepping down from their posts over a disagreement with the White House on the administration of booster shots.www.foxbusiness.com
I don't know what I'm getting and I don't really care.......just like I don't care about who the developer is of my shingles vaccine, my pneumonia vaccine, my flu vaccine or my tetanus vaccine. I honestly think we have gotten way out in front of our skis in all that is Covid vaccines. Like I have for many years, I am going to trust my doctors advice.....and chill out.
Wouldn't it be great if we could put comments with FAUX news links on ignore?
My waiting for the omicron tweaked booster will provide an opportunity to do just that - also see the severity of omicron.
You're welcome, although I'm uncertain what point I helped you prove.
That's certainly my thinking - thus this thread. It just seems logical to get the results of these tests which will be released so soon.
"unprotected"??? You are certainly quite protected if you've been vaccinated and your chance of hospitalization is next to none.
Are you of the opinion that those two did not leave the FDA, as announced? It was quite a widely publicized story. They each gave some notice but I don't think either changed their mind at any point.
They should at least recommend that those seeking the booster put it off a couple weeks. Though I have already had the booster shot. If they tweak it for omicron, it just means I would end up getting a 4th Moderna shot. I have been a human pin cushion this year. Three Covid vaccines, two Shingrex, and one flu. What's one more?
I got the shingles twofer last year.
Somehow, we obviously are not receiving the same information. My understanding is that at my age the protection I received from my original vaccinations over 6 months ago is waning to a degree that leaves me basically unprotected from contracting serious illness going forward hence my need for a booster.
I’m of the opinion that any communique from Faux and MSNBC will be heavily biased and require a strong BS filter and more research
I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding as to what the dispute was about. The FDA was supportive of boosters for those over 60 but had more of a philosophical argument about boosters for those younger. It seemed to me it centered more around the purpose of the vaccines/ boosters.....are they meant to prevent contraction or are they meant to prevent hospitalization and death. The CDC was more about contraction, the FDA more about preventing serious illness.
I like that back and forth.
Burton from Moderna was just on CNN. He said very clearly and very specifically that they believe they can have a modified version of the vaccine available for testing in the next few months if it shown that the new variant is resistant to existing vaccine. He also said that in the meantime he said that it is important for people to get vaccinated and get their boosters. He said that twice.
We absolutely do have our own independent agency, Health Canada, providing guidance to Canadians based on their own analysis. Mind you it would be naive of me to say that data from the CDC, not so much the FDA, is not part of their input.
On a recent thread (one you were on) a poster did a screen shot of a chart of Moderna and Pfizer vaccine effectiveness from the time of the 2nd shot and forward. At 200 days from vaccination the Pfizer effectiveness was in the high 70s and the Moderna in the high 80s in terms of remaining" percentage of "vaccine effectiveness". I believe it was an ACIP chart, if I recall correctly. It was quite interesting and broken down by age group for each vaccine type. I recall commenting about how it was interesting that, in one vaccine type/age range category, vaccine effectiveness at 200 days was even better than it was at 125 days - I think that was for the 65+ Moderna group. 75-90% effectiveness is quite high for any vaccine and very far from "unprotected". The chart didn't go beyond 200 days (yet).
I got that twofer in the last couple years too. I got a high fever as a reaction to the first of those two shots and took a fair amount of Tylenol to avoid a fever when I got the second dose. I didn't like that twofer and I'm glad it's over.
Plus Covid 1+ 2, plus flu as well.
Pin cushion indeed.
FWIW, I'm also in the high risk category and got an antibody test that showed I still had pretty robust protection despite being vaccinated (Moderna) in January and early Feb. So I passed on the booster, for now. That might be an option for some - insurance paid for it as part of my annual physical.
65 and older.
That is VERY interesting and thank you very much for adding that comment. I had Moderna a little more than a month after you did and I have not gotten an antibody test. But the chart I discussed, in comment #93, showed quite robust protection at the 200-day mark, almost 90%. You seem to be a real-life example of those findings.
That’s a real shame - sorry to hear that.
That's great. Shingrix is kind of known to be a somewhat difficult shot. Shingrix was much harder for me than the two dose Moderna covid shot, but my husband sure had a bad reaction to his second Moderna shot after not even feeling the first one.That’s a real shame - sorry to hear that.
No side effects at all for me.
Must be easier for morons