thinkforyoursel
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no, in fact we need to go back to true republican government, of divided power.
repeal the 17th
democracy is the most vile form of government--james madison
When I look at recent threads like ...Should we look for ways to vote on issues and not on parties..... I think this is a bad idea. Why....simply because the average American would not have the time to watch congress every move ...unlike them ...we have to work for a living. And all this would do is allow old people ...and those with little to do control the country.
But if we got rid of the electoral college system ...that would allow a democratic voter in South Carolina for example and a republican voter in California to actually mean something.
I would bet money that a poll on this issue ...that would allow the people to really and truly speak ....would be resisted more by those on the right.
Why go through this sham every four years where Ohio and FL for example actually decide the presidency?
In my view ...it's the people that matter and not ..."the land" .
When you look at a MAP diving the country in red and blue ...visually...you wonder how democrats ever win an election.
But often the reality is how do they lose any election over the last 30 years..
Glad to see the last thing you want ...is democracy ...freedom and liberty for all.... not many right-winger are so honest and forth coming.
no, in fact we need to go back to true republican government, of divided power.
repeal the 17th
democracy is the most vile form of government--james madison
Well that's vague as hell since we are a republic. . . and the related provisions set in Articles 1 and 3 led tp a problem. It wasn't changed for frivolous and senseless reasons.
true republican government is divided power...the people and the states both (2) have power......democracy is power in only 1.
house is representation of the people, direct vote of the people.
senate is representation of the states, indirect vote of the people
president, representation of the union, indirect vote of the people
When I look at recent threads like ...Should we look for ways to vote on issues and not on parties..... I think this is a bad idea. Why....simply because the average American would not have the time to watch congress every move ...unlike them ...we have to work for a living. And all this would do is allow old people ...and those with little to do control the country.
But if we got rid of the electoral college system ...that would allow a democratic voter in South Carolina for example and a republican voter in California to actually mean something.
I would bet money that a poll on this issue ...that would allow the people to really and truly speak ....would be resisted more by those on the right.
Why go through this sham every four years where Ohio and FL for example actually decide the presidency?
In my view ...it's the people that matter and not ..."the land" .
When you look at a MAP diving the country in red and blue ...visually...you wonder how democrats ever win an election.
But often the reality is how do they lose any election over the last 30 years..
Well ..like I guessed.
Excuses after excuses .... and all sorts of ideological rationale .....but in the end the most frightening thing today to conservatives ...is actually...the will of the people!!
So - we're not a divided republican power? I think what you're presented shows that we are. . . and you're undervaluing our constituent force regarding functions of government and the presidency.
Glad to see the last thing you want ...is democracy ...freedom and liberty for all.... not many right-winger are so honest and forth coming.
The most frightening thing is a true democracy...
Good evening, AP.:2wave:
I normally don't like to tinker with the Constitution.eace
Good evening 2m, and I would agree but the notion of winner take all States in the electoral college has only served to help divide the country...
So . . . what would you suggest instead?
Well ..like I guessed.
Excuses after excuses .... and all sorts of ideological rationale .....but in the end the most frightening thing today to conservatives ...is actually...the will of the people!!
I have no issue at all if we replace it with a system where our elected federal officials (Representatives and Senators) would make the decision as this would eliminate some areas of the country overwhelming the remainder be shear ideology...
I have no issue at all if we replace it with a system where our elected federal officials (Representatives and Senators) would make the decision as this would eliminate some areas of the country overwhelming the remainder be shear ideology...
Hmmm. Then the President's legitimacy would not come from the whole people, but from a fraction of Congress. Doesn't immediately appeal to me.eace
Good evening, AP. :2wave:
Could you elaborate a bit? I'm not following your thought. Sorry.
What fraction of Congress would that be, when the suggestion is that it is closet to the true representation of the country's will?
The Congressmen & Senators who voted for the President.eace
How does a whole become a fraction?
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