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Based on what??? Nothing to agree or disagree with, it is the law. You really haven't shown anything that debunks what I have or posted proof of anything? Then you say the law itself "No it hasn't which is exactly why this is still up for debate." which is absolutely not true. No one has posted anything even remotely relevant to the counter point.
Religious morals have been upheld in almost every case for private entity's. Including employees who smoke, do drugs and in the case of the Boy Scouts are homosexual. The case law on this says no.
Hostile work environment? She was fired one week after disclosing she had premarital sex. That is a stretch.
I am no lawyer, but I think she will lose. Her lawyer will charge her a bunch of money and hopefully she can afford it.
Lawyers will take a case knowing it is unwinnable, seen it done within my own family. Judge threw it out immediately.
NOOoooooo!!!!
Really??!??!??
That bit of info blindsided me… :shock:
Perhaps, but that’s future.
Presently, as I understand the situation, they did nothing illegal.
A point.
Bodhisattva, what if the sex didn't result in pregnancy, would it be legal to fire her then?
I'm only on page 4 of 20+ pages so if this was already addressed...sorry.
Couldn't a legal case be made based on sex (gender). A woman might "show" that she's had sex outside of marriage because of a pregnancy, where a man would not have outward signs.
That sounds like discrimination to me.
:shrug:
...back to reading through this thread
The teacher was interviewed on the TodayShow this morning (6/14/10) and stated she did not sign a maturnity clause w/her teaching contract which is typically required of most teachers who teach at private Christian/Catholic schools. If true, she'll win her case because she would have been unlawfully terminated based on her pregnancy being the reason why she was fired.
Again the school has stated she was not fired for being pregnant. She was fired for have premarital sex, a violation of the moral code. If the school can prove it was something she knew about, then they are correct and she will loose.
Quick question. Say someone was working for an atheist organization and part of the employment contract was that they agreed not to attend any religious services/church. Say one of their employees was curious about Christianity and went to Mass one morning. The employer found out and fired that person, was his firing justified?
No...........
No...........
No because a term of employment cannot be forfeiture of your right to free religious expression.
As long as the organization like the Boy Scouts can legally ban gays from being Scout Masters, and religious organizations can ban people of different faiths, then yes they could.
As long as the organization like the Boy Scouts can legally ban gays from being Scout Masters, and religious organizations can ban people of different faiths, then yes they could.
There is only one exception to this and it's not because it's an exception to federal law but because the information is previously disclosed during their training and ordination: clergy members.
No they cannot make signing away religious expression a term of employment. In fact, it is illegal, by federal law, to even ask what holidays an prospective employer celebrates as a means to garner information on that subject. If the candidate brings it up, it's fine to discuss but a prospective employer cannot even approach the subject.
There is only one exception to this and it's not because it's an exception to federal law but because the information is previously disclosed during their training and ordination: clergy members.
Not true. My wifes company asks you as it is a Christian/Catholic organization. You cannot work their if you are not, period. So yes a private institution can. They can also fire you for breaking the rules. In the mornings they have a mandatory prayer meeting and study. If you don't go or do not lead at least one time a month you can and will be fired, period.
So yes a private religious organization can.
PS My wife and most of the employees are not clergy.
As long as the organization like the Boy Scouts can legally ban gays from being Scout Masters, and religious organizations can ban people of different faiths, then yes they could.
Not true. My wifes company asks you as it is a Christian/Catholic organization. You cannot work their if you are not, period. So yes a private institution can. They can also fire you for breaking the rules. In the mornings they have a mandatory prayer meeting and study. If you don't go or do not lead at least one time a month you can be fired.
So yes a private religious organization can.
No they cannot. In fact, if anyone were to raise an issue with it, they would be paying through the nose for forcing it. You cannot forfeit religious freedom as a term of employment. I could maybe see it as a term of hire but no employer can deny one the right to convert or stop practicing religion altogether.
OK I see what you are saying. I mean as in term of employment.
He asked would it be legal to fire you if it was a term of your employment, so again I say yes they can.
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