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Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

Should a Christian school be allowed to fire a teacher for fornication?

  • Yes, they should be allowed to demand a traditional Christian moral code from all teachers

    Votes: 25 35.7%
  • They should be allowed if they prove they apply the same standards to all teachers

    Votes: 3 4.3%
  • They should be allowed, but that doesn't make it right

    Votes: 19 27.1%
  • They are discriminating against women, since fornication is more obvious with them

    Votes: 3 4.3%
  • If the school board members can prove they never fornicated, then they stand on solid ground

    Votes: 2 2.9%
  • Christian schools should not be allowed to discriminate on moral grounds

    Votes: 9 12.9%
  • Christians are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on the face of the Earth!

    Votes: 5 7.1%
  • Other response

    Votes: 4 5.7%

  • Total voters
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No it's not irrelevant, you can't actually prove conclusively that someone is having sex unless they volunteer the information willingly which she did by applying for maternity leave, she violated the contract end of story. Oh and just where did you come up with the idea that a contract is only valid if it is continiously enforced under zero tolerance guidelines?
Actually, he's right. In the corporate world you have a Hell of a time firing someone on an issue like this if it hasn't been previously enforced.

Also, I think it has yet to be established that she actually violated her contract. If that were as cut and dry as you make it out to be, there wouldn't be a court case pending for it.
 

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Then why even have contracts?
You're making an assumption that there was a morality clause in the contract, which the plaintiff says isn't the case.

Contracts are also great for both the coproration and the contractor.

The problem arises when a corporate entity attempts to place restrictions or entitlements into the contract that infringe upon individual rights protected by the Bill of Rights.

Personally, I don't think that's a bad thing.
 
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An employer has the right to review his employees work performance whenever they want, if that performance is found to be lacking then he has the right to fire her, that would include excessive absenteeism and lateness.



The reason is obvious, IE that she violated her contractual agreement.



Um if she requested maternity leave then she volunteered the information that she violated her contractual agreement to abstain from sex while under there employ, see ya later.



Oh I see a contractual obligation means absolutely **** all to you. Why even have contract terms then?



Understand contracts are not binding unless they are continiously enforced under strict zero tolerance guidelines. Interesting, bull****, but interesting none the less. A contract is a contract, she violated the contract, she was in the wrong, the employer had every right to fire her.
You have no understanding of corporate law whatsoever. Just because something is in writing doesn't make it legally binding. The employer's own actions indicated it wasn't a problem. He can't then go back and fire her when it's inconvenient for him. This isn't just some random legal theory, this has been established law for decades.
 
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Then why even have contracts?
Why have contracts if an employee can be denied the leave to which they are contractually entitled, unless they have a 100% perfect record at work for the entirety of their employment? :roll:
 

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Everybody commits a sin at some point. We always do. If teachers at Christian schools were to be fired every time they committed a sin there would be no teachers.
"Every citizen commits a crime at some point. We always do. If Americans were sent before the firing squad every time they went more than 5 mph over the speed limit....."....you see where this is going.
 

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Why have contracts if an employee can be denied the leave to which they are contractually entitled, unless they have a 100% perfect record at work for the entirety of their employment? :roll:
How can you be entitled to a leave which comes about directly from violating your contract?
 

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You have no understanding of corporate law whatsoever. Just because something is in writing doesn't make it legally binding. The employer's own actions indicated it wasn't a problem. He can't then go back and fire her when it's inconvenient for him. This isn't just some random legal theory, this has been established law for decades.
Understood, a contractual agreement means absolutely nothing unless a zero tolerance policy is implemented 100% of the time for any and all infractions. She violated the contract and now you want her to be granted a payed vacation as a direct result of violating that contract. :roll:
 

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How can you be entitled to a leave which comes about directly from violating your contract?
So just to clarify...you believe that the first time an employee commits ANY violation of corporate policy whatsoever (most likely on their first day on the job), they forever forfeit their right to maternity leave, vacation time, and sick leave? And if the employer decides to allow them those things anyway, it's only out of generosity rather than contractual obligation?

Give me a freaking break. You have absolutely NO understanding of corporate law whatsoever, and your legal theories are ridiculously impractical. :roll:
 

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Understood, a contractual agreement means absolutely nothing unless a zero tolerance policy is implemented 100% of the time for any and all infractions.
Yes. If the written policy is not being enforced by the employer on a regular basis, then a judge will (and should) conclude that the written policy is NOT the employer's actual policy.

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She violated the contract and now you want her to be granted a payed vacation as a direct result of violating that contract. :roll:
Yes. And any judge in America (and probably any other common law country) would agree.
 

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Christian schools exist to educate childern in a Christian environment. I am sorry, but pre-martial sex is not a Chirstian value. To allow this would dilute the very essence of Christian education, which is exactly what the parents are expecting of the school. To not fire her would be hypocrisy. That said, I am certain many to most Christian schools are guilty of double standard or uneven application of Christian standards, that is not an argument against her firing.

I would advise against her filing a lawsuit that will not go in her favor but instead cost her a lot of money.

To argue to your direct point: intentional or not, she did do something to harm the school.
-my bold-

Oh yes it is. They value it highly, or the over 90% of them who engaged in it wouldn't have.
 

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fornicating is good it helps the gene pool oh wait the church doesnt believe in evolution
 
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