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No, I believe that someone who is using someone else's (an "acquaintance's") script to self medicate is breaking the law and possibly endangering the life of the fetus. The women does not appear to intend to have an abortion.
Did you read the article?
I'm sorry let me rephrase. It's the woman's choice. She shouldn't have rights removed from her regardless.
It's the woman's choice to use other people's scripts without consulting a doctor? Sure. And it's breaking the law and perhaps endangering the life/health of the fetus that she intends to carry to birth.
If someone goes to trial for a murder are you seriously saying if they can pay and don't get a lawyer they just sit there in trial without one? I don't think so. ( I will error and say if I am wrong I haven't seen one personally)
If someone goes to trial for a murder are you seriously saying if they can pay and don't get a lawyer they just sit there in trial without one? I don't think so. ( I will error and say if I am wrong I haven't seen one personally)
I don't understand this never-ending feud to begin with. If the fetus has a soul, well to the religious it's with god now, so who cares? To anyone else, it keeps population less catastrophically out of control.
Yes, the woman should be charged with using a script unauthorized, not with anything else. She should receive the same punishment as anyone else abusing a script. Nothing else.
Let me ask you, if you think the woman should be charged, do you think the father should be charged to, because after all where was he?
Yes, this has and will continue to happen. In wisconsin, i think it's $3000 salary means you "can afford an attorney." Well good luck finding one to take a murder trial with say $4000. In this case, they have to defend themselves. The system is that ****ed.
938.23(3)
(3) Power of the court to appoint counsel. Except as provided in this subsection, at any time, upon request or on its own motion, the court may appoint counsel for the juvenile or any party, unless the juvenile or the party has or wishes to retain counsel of his or her own choosing.
- See more at: 938.23 Right to counsel. - Wisconsin Statutes
I don't understand this never-ending feud to begin with. If the fetus has a soul, well to the religious it's with god now, so who cares? To anyone else, it keeps population less catastrophically out of control.
If we assume that all religions are false, and that this life is all there is, it is still reasonable to value the life of the unborn and be pro-life.
If a fetus is found to be causing harm to its mother, will it be tried as an adult or a minor? If it is tried as a minor and found guilty, will it be sent to a juvenile detention center? If it is tried as an adult, is execution on the table if the transgression is severe enough? Will it exercise its right to choose counsel? I'm just asking - considering a fetus is a person and all. I'd like to know just how a fetus, being a person and all, is supposed to be punished if it is found to be harming its mother.
Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law - U.S. News
This is the logical conclusion of the misguided belief that fetuses have rights..It is impossible to give rights to a being growing inside a person's body without violating that person's rights
Come on.According to the OP article, fetus gets a state appointed lawyer, mother does not.
As the law is written, it can clearly be seen that it intends to stop a mother from destroying the child's life with her drug use.You are right, this case shows how the radical religious right goes way to far and actually destroys lives for no reason under some notion that it is for the greater good. Really, how is it in the child's best interest that their parent has been fired from their job, will have a felony conviction, and will not be able to raise the child in a good environment because they were so hell bent on punishing a woman for having sex. It is sick and depraived. The people who did this to that mother should be ashamed of themselves, but they are not. They are proud of what they have done. They have destroyed one life, and severely set back the life they were trying to protect. That is not compassion, love, or anything noble and good. It is pure spiteful bossiness.
Which does not allow you to speak for those states in which you have no experience.I got to experience it from the defendant's side.
This case may be struck down, but not the law.This will be struck down in the courts, that's not what bugs me.
The law is a good law with good intent, and there is no reason why it shouldn't be defended or the state if the state properly applies it.What bothers me is that no matter how extreme this non-sense gets, there are still people who come to the defense of the state.
Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law - U.S. News
This is the logical conclusion of the misguided belief that fetuses have rights. It is impossible to give rights to a being growing inside a person's body without violating that person's rights.
Wait a minute so you are ok with rights being violated as long as it is something you agree with?
Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law - U.S. News
This is the logical conclusion of the misguided belief that fetuses have rights. It is impossible to give rights to a being growing inside a person's body without violating that person's rights.
This is the logical conclusion of the misguided belief that fetuses have rights.
It is impossible to give rights to a being growing inside a person's body without violating that person's rights.
Shackled and pregnant: Wis. case challenges 'fetal protection' law - U.S. News
This is the logical conclusion of the misguided belief that fetuses have rights. It is impossible to give rights to a being growing inside a person's body without violating that person's rights.
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