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Several members of World Central Kitchen latest to die in IDF attacks

Serenity said:
I don't think there's anything wrong with waiting for Israels statement. It's important to know what has happened so it does not happen again.
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You are giving them WAY too much credit. Imagine a story about a Jewish family just killed at a Nazi death camp, saying it's important to wait for the Nazis to investigate it, so it doesn't happen again.

Serenity said:
As I side note, I don't think it's nesessary or respectful to show videos of the deceased with their bloodied passports on top of them either. (Not saying you are doing this.)
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I agree. I haven't posted some videos and try not to watch some.


Serenity said:
WCK have also now unfortunately had to pause operations in the region.
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Mission accomplished.

Get rid of UNRWA, get rid of hospitals, get rid of paramedics, get rid of schools, get rid of food help and aid trucks, and much more.

They literally said the goal is to make Gaza uninhabitable where no one can live. Usually people committing genocide try to hide it.
 
Excast said:
Revenge tours never end well for any involved.
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That's just it, isn't it? The Israeli military campaign is built on emotion. If this campaign was built on, say, logic, many of these unnecessary and (depending on who was killed, inhumane) killings/targetings would not have happened.
 
PoliSciPulse said:
That's just it, isn't it? The Israeli military campaign is built on emotion. If this campaign was built on, say, logic, many of these unnecessary and (depending on who was killed, inhumane) killings/targetings would not have happened.
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The campaign is built on ethno-nationalism.
 
PoliSciPulse said:
That's just it, isn't it? The Israeli military campaign is built on emotion. If this campaign was built on, say, logic, many of these unnecessary and (depending on who was killed, inhumane) killings/targetings would not have happened.
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The parallels to America's response to 9/11 are eerie. What we are witnessing is Israel's version of the Iraq war. Built on emotion with no clear goal other than revenge masked as defense.
 
Serenity said:
No, I'm not, Craig. I'm trying to remain respectful to the victims and not make accusations without knowing the full details of what happened.
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It's not disrespectful to the victims to recognize the truth about who killed them, and the people who killed them aren't the ones to trust with investigating themselves. It's a bit like 'respecting the victims' on the 9/11 planes by not making accusations whether it was pilot error where they crashed until Al Queda investigates the incident and announces their findings. The leveling of Gaza might still just be a misunderstanding, an accident?
 
Excast said:
The parallels to America's response to 9/11 are eerie. What we are witnessing is Israel's version of the Iraq war. Built on emotion with no clear goal other than revenge masked as defense.
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(I wrote my post before seeing yours). There are great parallels, but the basic goal against Palestinians is more comparable to the US's goal against Native Americans - a nearly universal national obsession - than to Bush's personal goal against Iraq to which he dragged the nation with con job abusing his power. While the war was devastating, the US never had a similar obsession with Iraq.
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-68710515

World Central Kitchen halts operations in Gaza after strike kills staff​


According to Cogat, the Israeli defence ministry body in charge of co-ordinating aid deliveries to Gaza, the charity is responsible for 60% of the non-governmental aid getting into the territory.

WCK said in a recent statement that it had served more than 42 million meals to people in Gaza since October and had been ready to provide more than one million more.
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Food is already incredibly scarce. People are starving. What now?
 
Excast said:
The parallels to America's response to 9/11 are eerie. What we are witnessing is Israel's version of the Iraq war. Built on emotion with no clear goal other than revenge masked as defense.
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The only parallels I see is that both conflicts call a nation's moral legitimacy into question, if not outright doubt. I've never questioned Israel's right to exist, I've never questioned their legal or political legitimacy, as both were definitively established in the years after WW2. But any country's moral legitimacy can be questioned or challenged. Indeed, that is the price of being recognized as a politically legitimate nation-state and member of the international community. Each act like this invites challenges to Israel's moral legitimacy, in the same way our invasion and occupation of Iraq did ours.
 
A huge tragedy.
As with the case of the killing of the three escaped hostages, will be waiting for the IDF investigation to explain how could this have happened.
 
They were in a car that was obviously fired upon in an indiscriminate killing just for the sake of killing. This has been the hallmark of the IDF. It’s way beyond the excuses of some of you and the constant whataboutisms.
 
Apocalypse said:
A huge tragedy.
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Those look like crocodile tears.

Apocalypse said:
As with the case of the killing of the three escaped hostages, will be waiting for the IDF investigation to explain how could this have happened.
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Perhaps if Israel clicks its heels three times and says the magic word "Hamas," it will all disappear.

Meanwhile, another group providing food for Palestinians is taken out and Israelis get to gleefully watch children starve to death while they draw plans for their beachside property in an ethnically cleansed Gaza.
 
dseag2 said:
This is so tragic. I donate regularly to WCK because they do so much good in feeding people around the world during catastrophes. Sad thing is that Bibi won't give a shit.
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I predict he'll call the deaths 'regrettable' and blame Hamas; the usual excuse. And you're right; the only thing he gives a shit about is staying in power-which won't be for much longer with luck. The Israelis have lost patience with him, and protests against him with calls for his replacement, are growing daily.
His troubles don't stop there; he is already on trial for fraud, bribery and breach of trust, along with ongoing investigations for alleged war crimes committed under his leadership.

www.theguardian.com

Tens of thousands of Israeli protesters call for Netanyahu’s removal

Demonstrators join families of hostages in cities across country and vow to persist until he is ousted as PM
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snakestretcher said:
I predict he'll call the deaths 'regrettable' and blame Hamas; the usual excuse. And you're right; the only thing he gives a shit about is staying in power-which won't be for much longer with luck. The Israelis have lost patience with him, and protests against him are growing daily.
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Beware the ultra conservatives. Even if he gets the boot, they’re not done by a long shot.
 
snakestretcher said:
The Israelis have lost patience with him, and protests against him are growing daily
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Do you really think whoever comes next will be any better?
If it's a Likud led Government the age old aim of preventing an Independent Palestine will still be there and worst case scenario, one of the settler friendly parties makes gains in polling.

The only thing I see improving the situation is the USA halting military supplies to Israel and demanding that Israel take heed before any further supplies are made available. As it is, the US was all show in public but quietly continued sending a range of weapons including the more indiscriminate type of bombs.

I don't see any improvement however those crying crocodile tears both in the real world and on the forum must be happy with the situation continuing unrelented.

Bok Tuklo said:
Those look like crocodile tears.
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There's no "look like" about it.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
Do you really think whoever comes next will be any better?
If it's a Likud led Government the age old aim of preventing an Independent Palestine will still be there and worst case scenario, one of the settler friendly parties makes gains in polling.

The only thing I see improving the situation is the USA halting military supplies to Israel and demanding that Israel take heed before any further supplies are made available. As it is, the US was all show in public but quietly continued sending a range of weapons including the more indiscriminate type of bombs.

I don't see any improvement however those crying crocodile tears both in the real world and on the forum must be happy with the situation continuing unrelented.
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I would hope so; the far-right Likud party which he leads will likely fold if he goes, and with luck a more moderate leader will take over. The West is in a difficult position; on the one hand condemning Israeli overreach, while on the other hand continuing to supply weapons to a supposed 'ally'. Our Parliament has been mooting ceasing weapons supplies.

www.thejc.com

MPs call on UK to halt arms sales to Israel - The Jewish Chronicle

The group of 130 parliamentarians was organised by Zarah Sultana
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www.theguardian.com

MPs and peers sign letter urging UK government to ban arms sales to Israel

Ministers under growing pressure to act amid signs Israel intends to ignore UN ceasefire resolution
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www.independent.co.uk

All seven aid workers killed by Israeli strike in Gaza named

British citizens James Henderson, John Chapman and James Kirby were among the seven aid workers killed by an Israeli strike on Monday
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WCK said its convoy of three vehicles was hit despite the charity coordinating on its movements with the Israeli military, and the fact that two of the cars hit were clearly marked as aid vehicles. Photographs and videos from the scene show a four-wheel drive car clearly labelled “World Central Kitchen” with a huge hole in the roof and its interior destroyed.

The journey was coordinated with the Israeli military beforehand. Seems to have happened before but without being as deadly when a similar attack hit a vehicle in January and the promised investigation has still not happened.

"The UN agency said that a supply distribution centre was also hit in March, and convoys had come under Israeli fire in December.

Alicia Kearns, a Conservative MP and the chair of the Foreign Affairs Committee, said that there was still no explanation for the January bombing of the Medical Aid for Palestine complex in a declared safe zone which had also been deconflicted directly with the Israeli military.

Four British doctors who were there at the time only just survived. She called for a “thorough and swift investigation” into what happened on Monday."

Thankfully, our Conservative MPs are also starting to ask questions at last.
 
Bok Tuklo said:
Those look like crocodile tears.



Perhaps if Israel clicks its heels three times and says the magic word "Hamas," it will all disappear.

Meanwhile, another group providing food for Palestinians is taken out and Israelis get to gleefully watch children starve to death while they draw plans for their beachside property in an ethnically cleansed Gaza.
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Uh-huh. You forgot the "baking Matzza balls out of Christian children blood" part.
Seriously you, @Infinite Chaos and the rest of the pro-Hamas camp are just far too gone in your dehumanization campaign against Israelis and Jews that you end up dehumanizing yourselves with this insane level of hatred.
 
Infinite Chaos said:
We are just as bad then.
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Maybe time to consider living in Iran, North Korea, Russia or somewhere else that doesn't support democracies fighting for their citizens' lives.
 
Aristaeus said:
World Central Kitchen’s chief executive, Erin Gore, said its team was “travelling in a deconflicted zone in two armored cars branded with the WCK logo and a soft skin vehicle.
Despite coordinating movements with the IDF, the convoy was hit as it was leaving the Deir al-Balah warehouse".

So they coordinated their movements with the IDF, travelled in a non-combat zone, and we're clearly marked, yet still ended up dead.

Also, a US citizen was one of those killed.
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And what does the IDF say about it?

I would consider all of Gaza strip unsafe while there is a war going on.
 
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