this increase is very minor when you consider the ups and downs of the price of gas in the past decade.
check this out. this affected ME!!
Gas prices head toward $5; continued supply problems expected » Knoxville News Sentinel
the federal government wants to increase taxes.
i'm utterly shocked.
whatever, I can afford it.... middle class and poor folks, well, that's another story
Won't stop me from driving bad ass Betty.
yep and it went back down during that time as well. gas could head that direction again given the situation in Iraq which is why the pipeline was needed to be built.
that would have saved on the impact.
a 12 cent increase that never goes away isn't very minor in the long run. more so when gas prices are already going up.
it should cost the average driver an additional 70 bucks a year ( going by average MPG and average miles driven)....roughly, an additional 6 bucks a month over what they spend now.( which is about 2 grand a year)
you don't have a say either way...and yes, some of that money will go to incredibly wasteful, corrupt, and stupid ****....As long as the money doesn't go to training lobsters to run on a treadmill or the mating habits of the Oregon grey weasel and really is used for the roads and isn't co-opted by dip****s who need to build a new pier to get re-elected in some section of Mississippi that no one's ever heard of - fine.
correction it will cost them more than that per year. shipping and trucking companies aren't going to take the loss they are going to pass those costs onto consumers.
the cost is going to be more than what it costs them as well.
Two United States Senators from different parties wanting to do this--first time since 1993.the federal government wants to increase taxes.
Also urban mass transit and goofy trains to nowhere nonsense. These mass transit systems are designed to operate at a loss, requiring permanent operational subsidies, after receiving massive subsidies to get them initially established.
Two United States Senators from different parties wanting to do this--first time since 1993.
A bi-partisan approach we've all been asking for--OMG.
A transportation bill long overdue.
I didn't mind paying eight dollars total in two tolls on I-44 in Oklahoma from Joplin to Oklahoma City, GOP country.
I believe in tolls and taxes, since I use the interstates and local roads .
Roads are designed to operate at a loss, requiring permanent operational subsidies, after receiving massive subsidies to get them initially established.
To illustrate this, here's a diagram for Wisconsin from 2004 to 2008. User fees made up just 33.3% of the revenue needed to maintain and build roads.
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Meanwhile, transit fares cover 21 percent of costs nationwide, indicating that the difference in subsidies for roads and transit is not as great as it’s often made out to be. (Though in absolute terms, there is a big difference: The total subsidy for roads dwarfs the total subsidy for transit.)
for the purpose of tax, road infrastructure.
i am not against the tax increase on gas because its needed but what we need to do is to have all tax dollars go into the general fund to pay for the needs of the country in stead of having a tax to fund this or that(SS and medicare are other examples)...
i am not against the tax increase on gas because its needed but what we need to do is to have all tax dollars go into the general fund to pay for the needs of the country in stead of having a tax to fund this or that(SS and medicare are other examples).
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Two senators unveiled a bipartisan plan Wednesday to raise federal gasoline and diesel taxes for the first time in more than two decades, pitching the proposal as a solution to Congress' struggle to pay for highway and transit programs.
The plan offered by Sens. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., and Bob Corker, R-Tenn., would raise the 18.4-cents-a-gallon federal gas tax and 24.4-cents-a- gallon diesel tax by 12 cents each over the next two years, and then index the taxes to keep pace with inflation.
Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase
Those who use, and often profit from the use, of our roads and related infrastructure should pay for it. I would like to see a gas tax high enough to offset all the current subsidies for drivers. Gas taxes and car registration should pay for all road, bridge etc. maintenance, traffic and parking enforcement and mitigate the damage from air pollution, noise, lost land etc. It should also partially offset the cost of public transit, which helps make the roads more usable and efficient by reducing traffic. That would allow reductions in other types of taxes. It will increase the cost of goods, but the increase is from the end of a tax payer subsidy, which should reduce other taxes. This scheme might require a break for low income people in low density areas forced to commute by automobile.
I would think Libertarians would want to pay for necessary road/rail/plane/waterway/energy grid/etc. improvements.you didn't have to tell me that you support regressive taxes and fees that disproportionately
impact the poor , elderly, and disadvantaged....I already knew that about you.
Answer this simple question - do light rail, bus and subway users pay motor fuel taxes?
While I agree that 100% of road construction and maintenance costs are not funded by user fees they are more funded by them than most public transit systems are. My point is that we are being told that motor fuel taxes must be raised in order to maintain roads yet an ever increasing portion of those funds are being diverted to other uses.
I question your assertion that only 1/3 of funds to build/maintain roads come from user fees.
not at all--especially coming from Sen. Corker, coming from Tennessee
I would think Libertarians would want to pay for necessary road/rail/plane/waterway/energy grid/etc. improvements.
Versus 20 of 28 deficits from GOP Presidents before Obama .
as gas goes up people slow down on their driving.
they don't go out as much they stay in it creates a drag on the economy.
the average gas price is about 6 cents higher. that 6 cents has cost the American economy 150m dollars. so theoretically a 12 cent increase would cost the American economy 300m dollars possibly.
that is 300m dollars that people and businesses don't have to spend.
it's always fair when it is someone else's money. I think we should look at the transportation budget and see what they are spending their money on. how many people are employeed and whether or not we can cut back on spending within the department itself and transfer those funds to projects.
this is also what happens when people drive more efficient cars. they buy less gas which means less tax revenue.
ok. then would you support those who use mass transit (bus,train,light rail) should pay for it. Lets say a tax on the ticket high enough to offset all subsidies the system recieves.
My point, if you want those who use the road to pay for using the roads, then users of mass transit should pay through a user tax on the ticket all costs associated with the operating and maintenance. I know in Phoenix the ticket price for buses or light rail does not even come close to cover the expense. General tax dollars are used to make up the deficit.
ok. then would you support those who use mass transit (bus,train,light rail) should pay for it. Lets say a tax on the ticket high enough to offset all subsidies the system recieves.
My point, if you want those who use the road to pay for using the roads, then users of mass transit should pay through a user tax on the ticket all costs associated with the operating and maintenance. I know in Phoenix the ticket price for buses or light rail does not even come close to cover the expense. General tax dollars are used to make up the deficit.
Those who use mass transit reduce traffic congestion and reduce pollution and the demand for new roads. Mass transit use should be subsidized by drivers via a gas tax.
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