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Senator Warren Pays Interns $0 per hour

Sen Fauxahontas, who wants the minimum wage to be $22 per hours and blasts big business for underpaying its people, doesn't seem to want the same thing for her own staff. Another example of total Libtard hypocrisy @ » Elizabeth Warren pays interns $0 per hour - Le·gal In·sur·rec·tion

While such an internship isn't, strictly speaking, a job - it's more a mentorship and training vehicle which many people would gladly accept without pay - it does illustrate the hypocrisy of government that lectures the private sector yet doesn't walk the walk themselves.
 
This would be something if Warren was breaking any rules/laws, but she/her office is a non-profit org, I don't see any accusations that the intern are complaining about doing menial task (rule violation) displacing paid workers, and saying you were an intern as opposed to just being a campaign volunteer looks a lot better on a resume. You do understand that their are rules in that these positions have to provide an education element to abide within internship criteria?

Sour grapes.
 
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While such an internship isn't, strictly speaking, a job - it's more a mentorship and training vehicle which many people would gladly accept without pay - it does illustrate the hypocrisy of government that lectures the private sector yet doesn't walk the walk themselves.
Right because govt IS private business....

FFS, private business DOES internships....of course the abuse of the rules is far greater in the business world....oops.
 
This would be something if Warren was braking any rules/laws, but she/her office is a non-profit org, I don't see any accusations that the intern are complaining about doing menial task (rule violation) displacing paid workers, and saying you were an intern as opposed to just being a campaign volunteer looks a lot better on a resume. You do understand that their are rules in that these positions have to provide an education element to abide within internship criteria?

Sour grapes.

No, not sour grapes - just pointing out her two-faced political stands! She claims private industry must do something that she does not do herself!!!

:lamo
 
No, not sour grapes - just pointing out her two-faced political stands! She claims private industry must do something that she does not do herself!!!

:lamo
Where does she say that private businesses need to pay interns? I missed that.
 
Why? Explain.

Explain? Missy believes the minimum wage really ought to be $22.00. Here's the job description for her interns:

Elizabeth-Warren-Senate-Web-Page-Internships-4-11-2013.webp

Why should these positions be unpaid? Did you really need that explained?
 
Explain? Missy believes the minimum wage really ought to be $22.00. Here's the job description for her interns:

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Why should these positions be unpaid? Did you really need that explained?
Yes, I do, internships are a chance for students to get a taste of the field they are majoring in, to get real world exposure and a free education in their field of study along with the chance to network within that field. Again there are rules for all on how internships are conducted, they cannot displace workers, they cannot be menial work....yadda yadda.

PS....you did not explain why ALL internships should be "ILLEGAL"
 
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Right because govt IS private business....

FFS, private business DOES internships....of course the abuse of the rules is far greater in the business world....oops.

I didn't say unpaid internships don't happen in private business. Business leaders, however, aren't going around preaching that people should be paid a $22/hr minimum wage as a principle of fairness, yet not paying their own staff that minimum.

Hypocrisy, in case you're unaware, is the act of criticizing in others that which you practice yourself.
 
Yes, I do, internships are a chance for students to get a taste of the field they are majoring in, to get real world exposure and a free education in their field of study along with the chance to network within that field. Again there are rules for all on how internships are conducted, they cannot displace workers, they cannot be menial work....yadda yadda.

They cannot displace workers?? Explain to me the logical of that. They most assuredly do displace paid staff. What those who offer unpaid internships are doing is using their perks to trade for someone's labor. In light of minimum wage laws, that should be illegal.
 
They cannot displace workers?? Explain to me the logical of that. They most assuredly do displace paid staff. What those who offer unpaid internships are doing is using their perks to trade for someone's labor. In light of minimum wage laws, that should be illegal.
What happened, did you have a bad internship experience, did you get displaced?

Something tells me you are coming at this with zero experience and are just giving a knee jerk response.

Here is a primer, just for you...

United States

Many internships in the United States are career specific. Students often choose internships based on their major at the university/college level. It is not uncommon for former interns to acquire full-time employment at an organization once they have enough necessary experience. The challenging job market has made it essential for college students to gain real world experience prior to graduation. In the US, company internships are at the center of NIGMS funded biotechnology training programs[25] for science PhD students. One example is the Biotechnology Training Program - University of Virginia.

Not all internships are paid. Many internships that are unpaid involve receiving college credit, especially if an internship is correlated with a specific class. The U.S. Department of Labor's Wage and Hour Division allows an employer not to pay a trainee if all of the following are true:[26]
The training, even though it includes actual operation of the facilities of the employer, is similar to what would be given in a vocational school or academic educational instruction;[26]
The training is for the benefit of the trainees;[26]
The trainees do not displace regular employees, but work under their close observation;[26]
The employer that provides the training derives no immediate advantage from the activities of the trainees, and on occasion the employer’s operations may actually be impeded;[26]
The trainees are not necessarily entitled to a job at the conclusion of the training period; and[26]
The employer and the trainees understand that the trainees are not entitled to wages for the time spent in training.[26]

An exception is allowed for individuals who volunteer their time, freely and without anticipation of compensation for religious, charitable, civic, or humanitarian purposes to non-profit organizations.[27] An exception is also allowed for work performed for a state or local government agency.[27]

Some states have their own laws on the subject.[28] Laws in the state of California, for example, require an employer to pay its interns working in California unless the intern receives college credit for the labor.[28]

Internship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


PS I am still waiting for the "illegal" argument.
 
Jesus, the feigned outrage from you people make me want to puke. You finally get a Senator who:
1) Truly represents "the people"
2) Will fight tooth and nail for rights
3) Will keep her campaign promises

Yet it's not good enough because, damn, she's not a Republican!!11!!1! So y'all try to dig up as much dirt, even if it's just bull****. Give you heads a shake people and cherish the thought that you finally have someone that represents YOU and not big business. Jeepers.
 
I didn't say unpaid internships don't happen in private business. Business leaders, however, aren't going around preaching that people should be paid a $22/hr minimum wage as a principle of fairness, yet not paying their own staff that minimum.

Hypocrisy, in case you're unaware, is the act of criticizing in others that which you practice yourself.
Again I'll ask you the same thing, when did Warren say that interns should be paid? Do you have evidence that Warren is abusing the internship system? Is she NOT giving college credit to interns? No, you don't all you have is a morality play based on sheer ignorance.
 
What happened, did you have a bad internship experience, did you get displaced?

Something tells me you are coming at this with zero experience and are just giving a knee jerk response.

Here is a primer, just for you...

United States

Many internships in the United States are career specific. Students often choose internships based on their major at the university/college level. It is not uncommon for former interns to acquire full-time employment at an organization once they have enough necessary experience. The challenging job market has made it essential for college students to gain real world experience prior to graduation. In the US, company internships are at the center of NIGMS funded biotechnology training programs[25] for science PhD students. One example is the Biotechnology Training Program - University of Virginia.

Not all internships are paid. Many internships that are unpaid involve receiving college credit, especially if an internship is correlated with a specific class. The U.S. Department of Labor's Wage and Hour Division allows an employer not to pay a trainee if all of the following are true:[26]
The training, even though it includes actual operation of the facilities of the employer, is similar to what would be given in a vocational school or academic educational instruction;[26]
The training is for the benefit of the trainees;[26]
The trainees do not displace regular employees, but work under their close observation;[26]
The employer that provides the training derives no immediate advantage from the activities of the trainees, and on occasion the employer’s operations may actually be impeded;[26]
The trainees are not necessarily entitled to a job at the conclusion of the training period; and[26]
The employer and the trainees understand that the trainees are not entitled to wages for the time spent in training.[26]

An exception is allowed for individuals who volunteer their time, freely and without anticipation of compensation for religious, charitable, civic, or humanitarian purposes to non-profit organizations.[27] An exception is also allowed for work performed for a state or local government agency.[27]

Some states have their own laws on the subject.[28] Laws in the state of California, for example, require an employer to pay its interns working in California unless the intern receives college credit for the labor.[28]

Internship - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

PS I am still waiting for the "illegal" argument.

You got my illegal argument. Minimum wage laws.

Every minimum wage job takes training. Every minimum wage job impedes a company when an employee first begins. It's just another loophole that needs closing.
 
Again I'll ask you the same thing, when did Warren say that interns should be paid? Do you have evidence that Warren is busing the internship system? Is she NOT giving college credit to interns? No, you don't all you have is a morality play based on sheer ignorance.

If you don't understand the hypocrisy, I can't help you - no matter what I say, you just won't get it.
 
You got my illegal argument. Minimum wage laws.

Every minimum wage job takes training. Every minimum wage job impedes a company when an employee first begins. It's just another loophole that needs closing.
Um, these are not minimum wage jobs, there are laws in place, they are not jobs, they are essentially training programs in exchange for college credit.
 
If you don't understand the hypocrisy, I can't help you - no matter what I say, you just won't get it.
Hypocrisy would be DIRECT conflict between two acts or statements, I'm still waiting for the evidence of these DIRECT statements or acts.
 
Jesus, the feigned outrage from you people make me want to puke. You finally get a Senator who:

1) Truly represents "the people"
2) Will fight tooth and nail for rights
3) Will keep her campaign promises

Yet it's not good enough because, damn, she's not a Republican!!11!!1! So y'all try to dig up as much dirt, even if it's just bull****. Give you heads a shake people and cherish the thought that you finally have someone that represents YOU and not big business. Jeepers.

It's not what party she belongs to for me. It's the fact that she thinks the minimum wage should be $22 an hour.
 
If I were younger (too late) and interested in a career in politics (I'm not) I would pay $22 an hour for the privilege of interning and making the kind of connections that a Harvard rich boy can get.

When I work at the animal shelter, I not only don't get paid, I donate thousands for the privilege. And it doesn't help my career at all.
 
Um, these are not minimum wage jobs, there are laws in place, they are not jobs, they are essentially training programs in exchange for college credit.

You can post 'til you're blue, Gimmesometruth. I'm not going to change my mind. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? It's a damned duck.
 
You can post 'til you're blue, Gimmesometruth. I'm not going to change my mind. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck? It's a damned duck.
Since when are white collar/multi year degreed/internship leading to salaried positions "minimum wage jobs"?

Do you think these things through or are your knees controlling everything?
 
Since when are white collar/multi year degreed/internship leading to salaried positions "minimum wage jobs"?

Do you think these things through or are your knees controlling everything?

:rofl What a hoot! Here's a liberal arguing against paying people for the work they're doing. Maybe they're $18/hour jobs. $22/hour jobs. Whatever. But they should be paid minimum wage.
 
:rofl What a hoot! Here's a liberal arguing against paying people for the work they're doing. Maybe they're $18/hour jobs. $22/hour jobs. Whatever. But they should be paid minimum wage.
When did you let the on the job training in EXCHANGE for college credit slip by? Or are you arguing for free college for everyone too?

Again, you built up this VERY negative view from some kind of experience, so tell us about it.
 
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