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Its an excellent criticism that the ACA was not passed with sufficient time to review the entire law, I would not want to see that happen again because its bad governance. Now do you want the Republicans to actually allow their bill to be fully examined or do you want to just rush it through in the exact same manner which the Dems did?
In other words I'm asking if you have any real standards, or just bias
Did you read my post? Because your reply is surreal.
Well, I think we will have to see the specifics to know. Right now all we have is the opening sales pitch...And if Harry Reid won't even consider letting the bill be debated, then we will never know will we? That has been his tactic all along.
People have GOT to take some responsibility for their well-being. Healthcare isn't and shouldn't be free. The problem is with the swath of Americans who don't believe they should have to spend a red cent of their own money on pretty much anything, nor should they be responsible for feeding, clothing, and housing themselves.
Until we address willing codependency, there is no viable solution for these folks.
Also no one should get healthcare until we uncover what REALLY happened in Benghazi!
I started as a moderate GOP in 1972 based on Lincoln, IKE, and TR; the party of Grands Ideas.I think we already know.
It may not be a fix all, but it is a start, and a return to allowing American's to make the choice, not some government official....And further, it is something that American's want a return to, with nearly every measurement polled of the President's performance, from O-care, to trustworthiness Obama's, and democrat governance is coming in with approvals in the high 30s, and disapproval in the near 60% range....
Americans want to pay a 35% tax on the cost of their premium, pay deadbeats up to $8K per year in tax credits, and allow insurance companies to discriminate on the basis of a pre-existing condition again? Those are the lovely little details of this hair-brained Republican idea that Fox News didn't publish.
Yeah? Well what the hell do they have now with the ACA? Premiums over $700. per month, and deductibles as high as $15,000 when before they may have had premiums of $300, and deductibles of $4000. You're insane if you think that this is bringing costs down.
Plus, in the aggregate there MORE people uninsured today, then before they forced this turd on us, with more to come.
The cost of equivalent plans is lower in the new competitive marketplaces than in the employer-sponsored group world...
Yeah? Well what the hell do they have now with the ACA? Premiums over $700. per month, and deductibles as high as $15,000 when before they may have had premiums of $300, and deductibles of $4000. You're insane if you think that this is bringing costs down.
Plus, in the aggregate there MORE people uninsured today, then before they forced this turd on us, with more to come.
And raising my income taxes will bring the deductible down?
As the deadline for 2014 enrollment nears, Obamacare is increasingly growing unpopular, especially among the uninsured. A new Kaiser Family Foundation survey finds that about twice as many uninsured people have an unfavorable view of the health-care law than have a favorable one.
Among the uninsured, 47 percent view Obamacare in a negative light versus the 24 percent who view it favorably. That’s a change from 43 percent who viewed it unfavorably last month, and 36 percent who viewed it favorably. Overall, half of Americans view Obamacare unfavorably, while just over one-third have a positive take on the law.
More of the uninsured also said Obamacare made them worse off (39 percent) than improved their situation (26 percent), according to the poll.
Obamacare's Unpopularity Rises Among Uninsured | National Review Online
As an addendum to Greenbeard's post, since he wanted to use Kasier to bolster his accounting that the ACA is making things better, this from Kasier appeared yesterday....
Now this begs the question of why the conflicting information? Could it be that supporters of the ACA are cherry picking information to bolster their case? Nah, I'm sure that couldn't be it.....
I am for raising taxes, on a mean-tested basis.I'm not for raising anyone's income taxes.
What Green beard posted are facts and figures of the cost of medical insurance premiums. What you've posted is the results of a survey of how people feel about the ACA. This is simply an apples to road apples comparison.
I am for raising taxes, on a mean-tested basis.
I pay only 10% federal tax on my public pension and zero state income tax, insanity.
Before you rightist meme me on give it back then, it takes a Nation of people who want it to work together, not just me.
Yeah, run with that...I am sure it will be popular among the sandals crowd....It always is popular to attack someone that has more than you.
Nice graph...Kaiser has been a proponent of the ACA, as are hospital groups and others that stand to benefit from it, like say, the AARP. I gave you what I found in looking on HC.gov, so while you may be able to find a source that you agree with, and you think backs up your personal feeling on the subject, it is less productive to be drawn into dueling tainted sourcing wouldn't you agree?
j-mac said:I am telling you, that these plans on the exchange are costing more, and more people in net so far, are uninsured....
I mean something that should have you questioning your own charts here, is the simple fact that 5 million were kicked off their plans, and the ACA if you believe the administration says they've signed up 3 million so far, that is a net minus of 2 million more people uninsured....This is common sense stuff.
Prior to the ACA, individual insurance coverage was more limited than employer insurance, and, on average, comparable to bronze plans purchased on the ACA's exchanges. Some of the sticker shock noted among enrollees in the new exchanges is due to more comprehensive insurance coverage in the exchange plans. More than half the people in the individual market had coverage below the bronze level of 60%, the lowest level in the exchanges.
All I am saying is that we can 'cherry pick' til the cows come home, doesn't mean a thing when the perception in the public turns sour....And this law in its rolled out glory is pissing people off.
Tell me where I attacked those who have more than I. Don't tell me you're having the 1% meltdown. Alice Cooper wrote of you "Billion Dollar Babies" 4 decades ago. Once they have all the money, the game's over .
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