Comeon stinger, stick around.Hell, you might convert some of us how to keep on topic....or not. :2wave:
Oh, and have a very Merry christmas.
Naw, I wouldn't fall for the "have you stopped beating your wife" diversions and whenever I tried to post they just tagged teamed me to death. It was there way of having to deal with debate they could not keep up with. But I am honored they keep my memory alive.
Why not attend..after all it has the best Suprme Court Justices that CORP Money can buy.
< A secretive network of Republican donors is heading to the Palm Springs area for a long weekend in January, but it will not be to relax after a hard-fought election — it will be to plan for the next one.>
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/20/us/politics/20koch.html?_r=2&ref=politics&pagewanted=all
How did it work out for them?
Ask Karl Rove. He's one of the main ones paying a price for taking everyone's $'s, lying to them about he prospects and then losing every single race he invested in with his "Crossroads GPS" superpac.
Karl Rove being an American has severely devalued the worth of being an American.....He reminds me of the creepy nazi in the first "Indiana Jones" movie...........................
Ask Karl Rove. He's one of the main ones paying a price for taking everyone's $'s, lying to them about he prospects and then losing every single race he invested in with his "Crossroads GPS" superpac.
Why not attend..after all it has the best Suprme Court Justices that CORP Money can buy.
< A secretive network of Republican donors is heading to the Palm Springs area for a long weekend in January, but it will not be to relax after a hard-fought election — it will be to plan for the next one.>
<The participants in Aspen dined under the stars at the top of the gondola run on Aspen Mountain, and listened to Glenn Beck of Fox News in a session titled, “Is America on the Road to Serfdom? >
Gotta get the ole brain washed.:roll:
<To encourage new participants, Mr. Koch offers to waive the $1,500 registration fee. And he notes that previous guests have included Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas of the Supreme Court, Gov. Haley Barbour and Gov. Bobby Jindal, Senators Jim DeMint and Tom Coburn, and Representatives Mike Pence, Tom Price and Paul D. Ryan.
Mr. Koch also notes the beautiful setting. But he advises against thinking of this as a vacation.
“Our ultimate goal is not ‘fun in the sun,’ ” he concludes. “This is a gathering of doers who are willing to engage in the hard work necessary to advance our shared principles. Success in this endeavor will require all the help we can muster.” >
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/20/us/politics/20koch.html?_r=2&ref=politics&pagewanted=all
Who wrote this ****? Alex Jones? ... :lamo If people don't think that demo's are doing the exact same things, then they are the ones brainwashed by the likes of MSNBC, and other lying progressive outlets....
This is a classic case of blatant op-ed journalism leaning to the far left.
Why not ask the person who bumped an almost three year old thread?This is old history that lead to the split in the repug party with the election of the teabaggers in the midterms.The seed that lead to BO's second term.:lamo
Aw, yes, you are so right, those evil "teabaggers" who believe in personal responsibility as well as fiscal responsibility. We cannot have that and keep power, can we liberals? The second Obama term was created by the very poorly informed person who continues to buy the rhetoric and ignore the results. No Obama supporter can cite a specific program Obama has implemented that has been a success as evidenced by verifiable economic results.
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Here's the reason that the r's(small r) lost the election.If they would have had a real Republican with a large R they would have won the election by a landslide.The sad thing is the lames that seem to think that they have to kiss bagger ass that to get elected. Reagan wouldn't make the cut with today's clown car.:2wave:
No, the reason that Republicans lost the election is because Obamabots are dependent on the Federal taxpayer for "stuff" and liberals love it that way.
What is the "stuff" that match's unfunded plan D (prescription drug plan)of the last administration?:shock:
That the best you can do? What was the Democrat Plan? Doubt seriously that you have any idea what the Republican plan was and what it actually accomplished thus you buy what you are told. All that does is make you look foolish. We have a 16.6 trillion dollar debt that you want to blame on a 400 billion dollar Medicare program that actually reduced Medicare costs? your math doesn't add up.
That the best you can do? What was the Democrat Plan? Doubt seriously that you have any idea what the Republican plan was and what it actually accomplished thus you buy what you are told. All that does is make you look foolish. We have a 16.6 trillion dollar debt that you want to blame on a 400 billion dollar Medicare program that actually reduced Medicare costs? your math doesn't add up.
Is that the best i can do?:lamo
I show you an unfunded plan that cast the American taxpaying public anywhere between $9.4 trillion dollara and $16 trillion dollars and you're saying "Is that the best i can do? "
So tell me what was the cost of the "stuff "that you were referring to?:2wave:
LOL. A conservative talking about math not adding up. Have you looked at the Ryan budget?
PAUL RYAN'S PROPOSED BUDGET CUTS
A List of Republican Budget Cuts
Notice S.S. and the military are NOT on this list.These are all the programs that the new Republican House has proposed cutting. Read to the end.
* Corporation for Public Broadcasting Subsidy -- $445 million annual savings.
* Save America 's Treasures Program -- $25 million annual savings.
* International Fund for Ireland -- $17 million annual savings.
* Legal Services Corporation -- $420 million annual savings.
* National Endowment for the Arts -- $167.5 million annual savings.
* National Endowment for the Humanities -- $167.5 million annual savings.
* Hope VI Program -- $250 million annual savings.
* Amtrak Subsidies -- $1.565 billion annual savings.
* Eliminate duplicating education programs -- H.R. 2274 (in last Congress), authored by Rep. McKeon, eliminates 68 at a savings of $1.3 billion annually.
* U.S. Trade Development Agency -- $55 million annual savings.
* Woodrow Wilson Center Subsidy -- $20 million annual savings.
* Cut in half funding for congressional printing and binding -- $47 million annual savings.
* John C. Stennis Center Subsidy -- $430,000 annual savings.
* Community Development Fund -- $4.5 billion annual savings.
* Heritage Area Grants and Statutory Aid -- $24 million annual savings.
* Cut Federal Travel Budget in Half -- $7.5 billion annual savings
* Trim Federal Vehicle Budget by 20% -- $600 million annual savings.
* Essential Air Service -- $150 million annual savings.
* Technology Innovation Program -- $70 million annual savings.
* Manufacturing Extension Partnership (MEP) Program -- $125 million annual savings..
* Department of Energy Grants to States for Weatherization -- $530 million annual savings.
* Beach Replenishment -- $95 million annual savings.
* New Starts Transit -- $2 billion annual savings.
�������Exchange Programs for Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, and Their Historical Trading Partners in Massachusetts -- $9 million annual savings
* Intercity and High Speed Rail Grants -- $2.5 billion annual savings.
* Title X Family Planning -- $318 million annual savings.
* Appalachian Regional Commission -- $76 million annual savings.
* Economic Development Administration -- $293 million annual savings.
* Programs under the National and Community Services Act -- $1.15 billion annual savings.
* Applied Research at Department of Energy -- $1.27 billion annual savings.
* Freedom CAR and Fuel Partnership -- $200 million annual savings..
* Energy Star Program -- $52 million annual savings.
*Economic Assistance to Egypt -- $250 million annually.
* U.S.Agency for International Development -- $1.39 billion annual savings.
* General Assistance to District of Columbia -- $210 million annual savings.
* Subsidy for Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority -- $150 million annual savings.
*Presidential Campaign Fund -- $775 million savings over ten years.
* No funding for federal office space acquisition -- $864 million annual savings.
* End prohibitions on competitive sourcing of government services.
* Repeal the Davis-Bacon Act -- More than $1 billion annually.
* IRS Direct Deposit: Require the IRS to deposit fees for some services it offers (such as processing payment plans for taxpayers) to the Treasury, instead of allowing it to remain as part of its budget -- $1.8 billion savings over ten years.
*Require collection of unpaid taxes by federal employees -- $1 billion total savings.WHAT THE HECK IS THISABOUT?
* Prohibit taxpayer funded union activities by federal employees -- $1.2 billion savings over ten years.
* Sell excess federal properties the government does not make use of -- $15 billion total savings.
*Eliminate death gratuity for Members of Congress.WHAT???
* Eliminate Mohair Subsidies -- $1 million annual savings.
*Eliminate taxpayer subsidies to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change -- $12.5 million annual savings� WELL ISN'T THAT SPECIAL
* Eliminate Market Access Program -- $200 million annual savings.
* USDA Sugar Program -- $14 million annual savings.
* Subsidy to Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) -- $93 million annual savings.
* Eliminate the National Organic Certification Cost-Share Program -- $56.2 million annual savings.
*Eliminate fund for Obamacare administrative costs-- $900 million savings.
* Ready to Learn TV Program -- $27 million savings..
* HUD Ph.D. Program.
* Deficit Reduction Check-Off Act.
*TOTAL SAVINGS: $2.5 Trillion over Ten Years
Yeah, I sure have, have you?
The Ryan budget keeps the level of revenue that resulted from the tax increases that came at the start of the year, but it aims to raise that revenue with a new tax code that features a top rate of 25 percent. A 25 percent rate would mean a big tax cut for the highest earners in the country: Someone who makes $1 million a year isn’t going to have enough tax breaks to make up for a 14.6 percentage-point reduction in rates. The middle class would almost certainly have to pay higher average tax rates to make the numbers work. A similar plan seems to have been a serious political liability for Mitt Romney in last fall’s presidential election.
Even conservatives are not pleased. You would think Ryan learned something from his failed election last year
Paul Ryan
The right-wing Heritage Foundation took issue with some of the fuzzy math in Ryan’s proposal. “Regrettably,” it said, “Ryan’s budget also relies on Obama’s $618 billion fiscal cliff tax increase and Obamacare’s $1 trillion in tax hikes … to get to balance.” Heritage also critiqued the Ryan plan for leaving Medicare and Social Security untouched for a decade.
No, what you showed is that you continue to buy the liberal rhetoric and ignore the results. The Bush Medicare program actually cut the growth in Medicare and put incentive and capitalism back into the program. It cost less than half of the proposed Democrat Plan but that doesn't matter to you, does it?
Since you don't seem to understand the so called Medicare mandate it isn't surprising that you don't understand what Obama has generated in the terms of free stuff. Whether it be cell phones, "free" breakfast, lunch, and dinner, education entitlements, healthcare entitlements, almost unlimited unemployment benefits, those don't matter to the Obamabots who believe that is the role of the Federal Govt. What Obama is doing is transforming America into a European entitlement society that will collapse under its own weight and that is ok with you?
These free cellphones, tossing a bone to poor SCHOOL CHILDREN for a meal every now and then, providing healthcare for citizens to keep them from cluttering up our understaffed emergency rooms with our sick and dying is somehow turning our country into entitlement society??Explain this line of thinking to me. I’m all ears.:2wave:
No, you are a leftwing ideologue that ignores reality. We are 16.6 trillion dollars in debt up over 6 trillion in just four years since Obama took office. Typical liberal bs where you want govt to manage personal responsibility issues. Those are state and local responsibilities, not a Federal Taxpayer responsibility. This country wasn't built on yours or Obama's vision.
In other words you can’t explain your position. What is it about those who get most of their news from fox news channel that causes this brainwashing?
I wonder if genetics could have something to do with it? Perhaps some are more susceptible to the brainwashing tactics of rush, glenn et al. So sad.
I explained my position quite well, the issues you believe are Federal Responsibility are actually state and local responsibilities as our Founders stated. What is sad is people like you ignore history, ignore personal responsibility, and are doing your best to destroy the country from the inside out. Wonder if that is genetics.
"The Bush Medicare program actually cut the growth in Medicare and put incentive and capitalism back into the program. It cost less than half of the proposed Democrat Plan but that doesn't matter to you, does it"
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