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He had no choice after invading Iraq. To leave prematurely would be an admission of incompetence, which would also have been politically unpopular.
So bush was backed into a corner--damned if he did and damned if he didn't.
The SS did not make any mistakes. Hello?! The job of the SS is to keep the Pres unharmed, which they succeeded at, because
1) Obama was never shot
2) The SS didn't harass/harm/beat/shoot anyone for merely entering the WH grounds
The WH is supposed to be our house. Hello?!
So if an American enters w/out any clear intent of hurting anyone inside, the SS should not go overboard and start firing away.
The right wing nuts are just upset because they believe guns are the best answer to everything; they believe the SS screwed up because it didn't act Nazi guards, i. e. the right wing ideal of a perfect govt.
I don't understand why there are not two Marine guards posted at the entrance to the White House 24/7
Where is there any evidence that "right wing nuts" are responsible for her resignation?
By reading the attached article one quickly learns that one, there were several lapses, one in which a man with a record for assault got into an elevator with the president.....
The quality of the Secret Service doesn't seem to be what it once was. I remember that the agents around President Reagan did a superb job when Hinckley shot him
That doesn't make any sense at all.
They did not; if they did, O would either be dead or in a hospital now. The results speak for themselves.
WRONG. The results are the only relevant performance metric when they're exemplary.
And the results are exemplary, since the SS has kept all Presidents perfectly safe in the last 30 years.
No sensible employer questions the actions of an employee that delivers perfect results consistently. To do otherwise amounts to unnecessary micromanagement.
He had no choice after invading Iraq. To leave prematurely would be an admission of incompetence, which would also have been politically unpopular.
So bush was backed into a corner--damned if he did and damned if he didn't.
I'm glad that she held herself accountable for the problems.
Too bad more of the screw-ups don't do the same !!!
Again I explained it, if they didn't follow proper policy, which isn't letting an intruder in the White House, they FAILED. Plain and simple.
This conservative was about ready for a lynching too.She had no choice. The Libbos would have lynched her for endangering The Messiah's safety.
It looks like this troll can't be shut up so may we please ignore the bastard? Please?NOPE.
FAILURE is defined as not achieving the desired results, which, in this case, is keeping O alive and well without violating anyone else's civil rights/freedoms.
The SS succeeded at that, and therefore, it did not fail.
But isn't this somewhat the same thing where the SS is concerned?
To be clear, Pres. Obama said he had confidence in the SS, not that he had confidence in who was running it.
Read more @: Secret Service Director Julia Pierson Resigns After Breaches
She was probably offered, "you can either resign or we are gonna fire you".[/FONT][/COLOR]
That's grossly inadequate for a serious security job. Decent security personnel should expect to take nothing less than $2 million/yr.
But the US is supposed to be a free country, where the people are ideally in charge, and hence, we don't want super gung-ho security guards at the WH.
She really had no choice.
Yeah, it's not as though Presidents have ever been murdered. People should just chill out and let whoever the hell wants to go into the white house go into the white house! It's America's house, by God!:lamo
This conservative was about ready for a lynching too.
Where do YOU stand? AOK for people to fire live rounds at the WH? AOK for an armed stranger to sashay into an elevator with the president? AOK for an intruder to break into the WH and run amock? AOK to make distorted incident reports, or pretty well cover them up as in the case of the elevator episode?
Just a straight answer this time, please, no wisecracks, and I hope you can show that you actually possess a sense of appreciation for how serious it us for the President to be in constant danger due to the incompetence of his security detail.
You don't understand this poster. He actually has no problem with people who might kill the President getting close to him.
If there was no evidence he had any intention of hurting anyone, what difference does it make if he had a knife or gun? Explain.
The SS has a job which is to vet, in advance, those that wish to enter the spaces under their control. If folks can simply hop the fence, run accross the lawn, enter an unlocked entrance and "overpower" the posted guards then why even have the SS at all? If you wish to allow unannounced visitors into "your house" then you don't pay dearly for a security force. That is not the case here - the SS have a specific job to do that does not include waiting to see what a loon rushing into the WH may eventually decide to do.
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