seating a dog in a grocery shopping cart

[sear]

A few days ago while shopping for food in the supermarket I saw a customer with her dog. Her dog was seated inside the shopping cart.

I don't know for a fact, but I've read that at nudist colonies the custom is for nudists that will be seated mush carry a towel, for them to sit on, for purpose of hygiene.

WELL !!

Human nudists probably shower more regularly than dogs. The dog was not seated on a towel.

The exposure is at least unaesthetic.

BUT !!

It can be worse than a slight brown smudge on the package of shrink-wrapped burger.

Suppose it's a head of broccoli, intended for that night's salad? Even if it is rinsed, it may not decontaminate the e. coli that may be present.

And if as a result of this conduct, a fellow shopper is poisoned, and dies; should the pet custodian (if caught) be tried, convicted, and serve time for criminally negligent homicide?

 

[TheGoverness]

:inandout:

 

[Slingshot Bob]

Possibly go after the store for allowing it.

 

[chuckiechan]

A few days ago while shopping for food in the supermarket I saw a customer with her dog. Her dog was seated inside the shopping cart.

I don't know for a fact, but I've read that at nudist colonies the custom is for nudists that will be seated mush carry a towel, for them to sit on, for purpose of hygiene.

WELL !!

Human nudists probably shower more regularly than dogs. The dog was not seated on a towel.

The exposure is at least unaesthetic.

BUT !!

It can be worse than a slight brown smudge on the package of shrink-wrapped burger.

Suppose it's a head of broccoli, intended for that night's salad? Even if it is rinsed, it may not decontaminate the e. coli that may be present.

And if as a result of this conduct, a fellow shopper is poisoned, and dies; should the pet custodian (if caught) be tried, convicted, and serve time for criminally negligent homicide?

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I have an in-law in grocery management in an up scale (California) grocery store. He says that they are afraid of law suits, but most of all they are afraid of bad press for denying someone something that the newspaper thinks is "insensitive". The concept of public health is another area where is dissolving of the American culture is becoming a problem.

 

[sear]

"Everyone makes mistakes. It's what makes us human." TG #2 (savor the irony)

I'm not sure if that's intended as a topic comment or not.

In case it is, I doubt this is the first time she's done this, and probably won't be the last.

One of two things is true.

a) She's either so stupid she doesn't realize the disease vector potential. OR !!

b) She knows, but doesn't care.

My problem with it is:
- if you're stupid enough to drop a bowling ball on your own foot, TOO BAD !! "Live & learn!"

- It's when a person boinks up, and drops the bowling ball on YOUR foot that I have a problem with it.

" most of all they are afraid of bad press for denying someone something " cc #4

I gather grocery stores tend to run on very thin profit margins. I'm not sure why.
I gather the domestic food supply is among the safest on Earth.

I gather the practice is rare. Unfortunately, e. coli poisoning is not.

 

[radcen]

I have an in-law in grocery management in an up scale (California) grocery store. He says that they are afraid of law suits, but most of all they are afraid of bad press for denying someone something that the newspaper thinks is "insensitive". The concept of public health is another area where is dissolving of the American culture is becoming a problem.

Fluffy might be a "service" dog to keep the person's boo-hoos away.

 

[sear]

#6

Potentially perhaps.

But I doubt it in this case.

a) The woman seemed physical impairment free. She pushed her cart with as much ease as I pushed mine.

b) Service dogs generally wear a coat displaying instructions, such as "Service Dog: do not pet or distract". In this case neither bitch had that.

c) It's not clear to me of what service a service dog could be to a needy person, when the dog is confined in a wire cage like that. The service dogs I've seen in service are all on paw, on foot. This one wasn't.

 

[chuckiechan]

Fluffy might be a "service" dog to keep the person's boo-hoos away.

To complicate matters, you can't leave your dog in your car. In California, anyone can legally break your car window if they think your animal is overheated. In California "if they think" has complicated the idea of "probable cause" for a citizen.

New law allows smashing of windows to rescue pets in hot cars | abc7.com

Then we have the homeless with their flea bitten dogs being tied up out front while their master goes in shoplifting.

A cute scam:

They were taking a 50lb bag of dog food and dumping the contents into the drawers under the greeting cards, then filling it up with merchandise and putting it on the bottom shelf of the cart. Then because it's obviously 50 lbs of dog food and inconvenient to lift, Miss Muffet will scan it rather than try to lift it. Even if she does try, Mr. Stinky Thief will invade her space to "help" her and she will back off because the guy smells like a sewer. And off you go. Then the greeting card lady come in and taps you on the shoulder.. "Dude. You got to see this", and you find a drawer full of dog food. A dozen stores got hit before they got wise to what was going on.

And you wonder why grocery stores charge so much.

 

[sear]

"To complicate matters, you can't leave your dog in your car. In California, anyone can legally break your car window if they think your animal is overheated." cc #8

Similar story in New York State, except that reportedly if the police find a dog locked in a car on a hot summer day they'll "rescue" it by breaking into the car, and shooting the dog on the spot.

If the temperature is over 100F in direct sunlight that might seem rational.

- But what if it's February, and the temp. is well below freezing?

- What if it's at night, and the temperature inside the car is no hotter than that outside?

"New law allows smashing of windows to rescue pets in hot cars | abc7.com"

Jimmy Fallon recently read a tweet on air from a guy that broke a window to rescue a pet in a locked car.
Turns out it wasn't a pet, but a wig, and he had to pay $700.oo in damages and fines.

Personal note:
I think shoplifting is despicable. My attitude might be a little less vehement if stealing a loaf of bread was the only way I could feed my baby. Fortunately, my pantry is full, & I don't steal.

 

[Praxas]

A few days ago while shopping for food in the supermarket I saw a customer with her dog. Her dog was seated inside the shopping cart.

I don't know for a fact, but I've read that at nudist colonies the custom is for nudists that will be seated mush carry a towel, for them to sit on, for purpose of hygiene.

WELL !!

Human nudists probably shower more regularly than dogs. The dog was not seated on a towel.

The exposure is at least unaesthetic.

BUT !!

It can be worse than a slight brown smudge on the package of shrink-wrapped burger.

Suppose it's a head of broccoli, intended for that night's salad? Even if it is rinsed, it may not decontaminate the e. coli that may be present.

And if as a result of this conduct, a fellow shopper is poisoned, and dies; should the pet custodian (if caught) be tried, convicted, and serve time for criminally negligent homicide?

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Costco I know does not allow this the person must carry their dog (unless it's a service dog on a leash). I believe it is already a health code violation to do that so the store could be held liable I think.

 

[Winchester]

A few days ago while shopping for food in the supermarket I saw a customer with her dog. Her dog was seated inside the shopping cart.

I don't know for a fact, but I've read that at nudist colonies the custom is for nudists that will be seated mush carry a towel, for them to sit on, for purpose of hygiene.

WELL !!

Human nudists probably shower more regularly than dogs. The dog was not seated on a towel.

The exposure is at least unaesthetic.

BUT !!

It can be worse than a slight brown smudge on the package of shrink-wrapped burger.

Suppose it's a head of broccoli, intended for that night's salad? Even if it is rinsed, it may not decontaminate the e. coli that may be present.

And if as a result of this conduct, a fellow shopper is poisoned, and dies; should the pet custodian (if caught) be tried, convicted, and serve time for criminally negligent homicide?

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If fecal matter in food bothers you, well what can I say, ignorance is bliss.

 

[sear]

"I believe it is already a health code violation to do that so the store could be held liable I think." P #10

I hope so, though I lament that it would be necessary. I guess we as a People simply aren't smart enough to get along without laws for morons.

I presume you're right, as I don't recall ever having seen it before.

However !!

It will leave me wondering! Next time I buy broccoli, cauliflower, or similar to be eaten uncooked; how can I get it from store display to refrigerator, without lord knows what kind of exposure:
- in the shopping cart
- on the cash register conveyor belt
- on the hands of the cashier

I have lately been using self-checkout. Whether that reduces the potential disease vector or not I don't know. But I've noticed the touch-screens that operate those check-outs don't respond well if at all to gloved hands.

 

[americanwoman]

I hope so, though I lament that it would be necessary. I guess we as a People simply aren't smart enough to get along without laws for morons.

I presume you're right, as I don't recall ever having seen it before.

However !!

It will leave me wondering! Next time I buy broccoli, cauliflower, or similar to be eaten uncooked; how can I get it from store display to refrigerator, without lord knows what kind of exposure:
- in the shopping cart
- on the cash register conveyor belt
- on the hands of the cashier


I have lately been using self-checkout. Whether that reduces the potential disease vector or not I don't know. But I've noticed the touch-screens that operate those check-outs don't respond well if at all to gloved hands.

Buy it pre-packaged or put it in one of those plastic produce bags?

Grow your own vegetables?

 

[Skeptic Bob]

I am much less pet friendly than I used to be. I grew up always having dogs and I even worked at a veterinary clinic. I would let my dog and cat share my bed.

Then I spent 20 years in the Army. Because of all the moving I didn't have any pets.

And now they gross me out more than anything. They stink, which I never really noticed before. And when someone's little dog or cat jumps on my lap all I can think about is how their bare anus and genitals are in direct contact with my clothes or skin. Those are mucus membranes, people!

I keep my disgust to myself when it happens, but I do my best to avoid putting myself in those situations nowadays.

 

[sear]

"Buy it pre-packaged or put it in one of those plastic produce bags?" aw #13

Interesting suggestions.

BUT !!

As you may know, that may not eliminate the food poisoning risk; for there've already been recalls on pre-packaged vegetables.

I suspect it's more a matter of picking which risk you're more comfortable with.

"Grow your own vegetables?" #13

Under highly controlled conditions that might help.

BUT !!

If they're grown outdoors, who is to know what exposures it gets out there? A canid whether domesticated or wild might scent-mark it.
A bird may fly over it.
An insect (house fly) that just laid eggs on cow stool may stomp around on your garden fresh produce.

I realize at some point it's like fretting about being struck by lightning.

The likelihood of harm from a dog seat grocery cart may be fairly low.

BUT !!

The consequences are at least potentially fatal. And I've been stricken quite ill by food poisoning in the past. It is miserable, painful.

SB #14

Thank you for your service.

Tell your goldfish I said hello.

 

[americanwoman]

Interesting suggestions.

BUT !!

As you may know, that may not eliminate the food poisoning risk; for there've already been recalls on pre-packaged vegetables.

I suspect it's more a matter of picking which risk you're more comfortable with.

Under highly controlled conditions that might help.

BUT !!

If they're grown outdoors, who is to know what exposures it gets out there? A canid whether domesticated or wild might scent-mark it.
A bird may fly over it.
An insect (house fly) that just laid eggs on cow stool may stomp around on your garden fresh produce.

I realize at some point it's like fretting about being struck by lightning.

The likelihood of harm from a dog seat grocery cart may be fairly low.

BUT !!

The consequences are at least potentially fatal. And I've been stricken quite ill by food poisoning in the past. It is miserable, painful.

SB #14

Thank you for your service.

Tell your goldfish I said hello.

Live in a bubble?

 

[countryboy]

A few days ago while shopping for food in the supermarket I saw a customer with her dog. Her dog was seated inside the shopping cart.

I don't know for a fact, but I've read that at nudist colonies the custom is for nudists that will be seated mush carry a towel, for them to sit on, for purpose of hygiene.

WELL !!

Human nudists probably shower more regularly than dogs. The dog was not seated on a towel.

The exposure is at least unaesthetic.

BUT !!

It can be worse than a slight brown smudge on the package of shrink-wrapped burger.

Suppose it's a head of broccoli, intended for that night's salad? Even if it is rinsed, it may not decontaminate the e. coli that may be present.

And if as a result of this conduct, a fellow shopper is poisoned, and dies; should the pet custodian (if caught) be tried, convicted, and serve time for criminally negligent homicide?

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I see this more and more these days. People bringing their non service dogs into stores with them. This needs to stop. When did this becomes acceptable?

 

[radcen]

I am much less pet friendly than I used to be. I grew up always having dogs and I even worked at a veterinary clinic. I would let my dog and cat share my bed.

Then I spent 20 years in the Army. Because of all the moving I didn't have any pets.

And now they gross me out more than anything. They stink, which I never really noticed before. And when someone's little dog or cat jumps on my lap all I can think about is how their bare anus and genitals are in direct contact with my clothes or skin. Those are mucus membranes, people!

I keep my disgust to myself when it happens, but I do my best to avoid putting myself in those situations nowadays.

It's strange how we change over time and things that never used to bother us suddenly do.

Anyway, I am generally good with sharing my space with my pets, but I draw the line at cats on kitchen counters and other eating surfaces. That does not fly in my house, and contrary to what some people want to believe, cats can be trained to stay off.

 

[sear]

aw #16

Didn't Howard Hughes try that?
It may paradoxically make matters worse.
Some say while tourists in Mexico are subject to affliction with "Montezuma's Revenge", the locals seem to be immune; perhaps because their immune systems are more robust. Thus ironically our cleaner food standards North of the border may actually render us more vulnerable to such illness.

I gather you've been hinting at this, but to bring it out into the open, I suspect the only sure way to avoid any food poisoning is to stop eating.

cb #17

Interesting point.
Is it maturing aesthetic?
Or instead might it be a broadening of wisdom?
6 month old children may be likely to put just about anything into their own mouths.
It may take a geezer to take the Board of Health approach.

r #18

I've had great success training cats.

 

[eohrnberger]

 

[Winchester]

I see this more and more these days. People bringing their non service dogs into stores with them. This needs to stop. When did this becomes acceptable?

They should leave them in the car. :2razz:

I think it's occurring because we're becoming more and more "entitled" as a society.

 

[Winchester]

It's strange how we change over time and things that never used to bother us suddenly do.

Anyway, I am generally good with sharing my space with my pets, but I draw the line at cats on kitchen counters and other eating surfaces. That does not fly in my house, and contrary to what some people want to believe, cats can be trained to stay off.

Squirt guns... cat's don't like them. :lol:

 

[matchlight]

I am much less pet friendly than I used to be. I grew up always having dogs and I even worked at a veterinary clinic. I would let my dog and cat share my bed.

Then I spent 20 years in the Army. Because of all the moving I didn't have any pets.

And now they gross me out more than anything. They stink, which I never really noticed before. And when someone's little dog or cat jumps on my lap all I can think about is how their bare anus and genitals are in direct contact with my clothes or skin. Those are mucus membranes, people!

I keep my disgust to myself when it happens, but I do my best to avoid putting myself in those situations nowadays.

I don't recall that my Maine Coon cat, in the fourteen years I had him, ever put those parts of his anatomy into contact with me. Beneath his dignity. He would curl up in my lap, or on the bed, purring, and only his immaculate, cashmere-like orange fur--which he always seemed to be grooming--was touching anything. But I did grow up with a dog which, no doubt because of irritated anal glands my parents didn't seem to know about, would drag its hind end across the floor. That used to cross my mind when I'd sit on the floor as a kid in front of the TV.

 

[blackjack50]

A few days ago while shopping for food in the supermarket I saw a customer with her dog. Her dog was seated inside the shopping cart.

I don't know for a fact, but I've read that at nudist colonies the custom is for nudists that will be seated mush carry a towel, for them to sit on, for purpose of hygiene.

WELL !!

Human nudists probably shower more regularly than dogs. The dog was not seated on a towel.

The exposure is at least unaesthetic.

BUT !!

It can be worse than a slight brown smudge on the package of shrink-wrapped burger.

Suppose it's a head of broccoli, intended for that night's salad? Even if it is rinsed, it may not decontaminate the e. coli that may be present.

And if as a result of this conduct, a fellow shopper is poisoned, and dies; should the pet custodian (if caught) be tried, convicted, and serve time for criminally negligent homicide?

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Store shouldn't allow it. That is on them.

You shouldn't put unpackaged food in your cart.

People eat food out of containers all the time (grapes especially). I find that more concerning that dogs.

Babies poop in those things too.

Lot more things to worry about. I take my dog into stores that allow it. But not a lot.


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[Skeptic Bob]

I don't recall that my Maine Coon cat, in the fourteen years I had him, ever put those parts of his anatomy into contact with me. Beneath his dignity. He would curl up in my lap, or on the bed, purring, and only his immaculate, cashmere-like orange fur--which he always seemed to be grooming--was touching anything. But I did grow up with a dog which, no doubt because of irritated anal glands my parents didn't seem to know about, would drag its hind end across the floor. That used to cross my mind when I'd sit on the floor as a kid in front of the TV.

Cats are an order of magnitude less "gross" than dogs. Main Coons are also the most awesome breed of cat.