ricksfolly
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The poor trust, the rich take advantage of their gullibility, and the government doesn't care. That's the formula for all self-made men to get rich today.
If the government would force all TV adds to prove their products, there would be far less rich people and more money in poor people's pockets to spend on things they really need, and the recession would mysteriously end.
Caveat emptor (let the buyer beware) is really a license to steal.
ricksfolly
Explain the existence of state lotteries that openly state the odds of the game, yet most of it's participants are poor.
Poor people aren't the way they are because rich people are rich.
I agree. All gambling should be stopped, including race tracks, sports, and other games. Far too many get the bug and end up with nothing, many losing their houses and cars.
If they can't be stopped, they should at least limit bets to a dollar.
I won't say all poor people are victims of the rich, but they're all gullible with blind trust, and that's raw meat for unprincipled schemers.
Like it or not PT Barnum is still right today, except it should be...
"A sucker is born every millisecond."
ricksfolly
I agree. All gambling should be stopped, including race tracks, sports, and other games. Far too many get the bug and end up with nothing, many losing their houses and cars.
If they can't be stopped, they should at least limit bets to a dollar.
I won't say all poor people are victims of the rich, but they're all gullible with blind trust, and that's raw meat for unprincipled schemers.
Like it or not PT Barnum is still right today, except it should be...
"A sucker is born every millisecond."
ricksfolly
Poor people are just stupid. They must have government regulate all aspects of their lives to keep them safe from the evil rich. They cannot be held responsible for their own actions.(sarc) Let's just demonize those with the money. You know, the ones who work and provide jobs so people don't have to be poor.
What's wrong with PT Bartnum? He made a living without gov. handouts, he employed people, he provided amusement and entertainment for people. He didn't force anyone to spend their money on what he was selling them.If there hadn't been a market for what he was legally selling we wouldn't be talking about him now.
That's not a fair way of looking at it.
Most people are programed that way through evolution.
It isn't just because "they're stupid."
What I said was sarcism. What in the world do you mean by programed that way?
Humans are innately programed in a way that values material possessions and we are terrible with probability.
That happens to be why a lot of poor people are poor.
Thanks for your answer, though I think it's ridiculous.
The poor trust, the rich take advantage of their gullibility, and the government doesn't care. That's the formula for all self-made men to get rich today.
If the government would force all TV adds to prove their products, there would be far less rich people and more money in poor people's pockets to spend on things they really need, and the recession would mysteriously end.
Caveat emptor (let the buyer beware) is really a license to steal.
ricksfolly
I have an idea -- the government should assign each and every one of us a babysitter to guide us through this dangerous world of uncertainties. That babysitter can tell us when an act we are contemplating is a bad idea.I agree. All gambling should be stopped, including race tracks, sports, and other games. Far too many get the bug and end up with nothing, many losing their houses and cars.
If they can't be stopped, they should at least limit bets to a dollar.
I won't say all poor people are victims of the rich, but they're all gullible with blind trust, and that's raw meat for unprincipled schemers.
Like it or not PT Barnum is still right today, except it should be...
"A sucker is born every millisecond."
ricksfolly
Humans may be "programed" with a will to survive. I doubt they are programed with a disire to own things just to own them. I like a simple life myself. I want things that I use for enjoyment, education (internet) or things I need (food, shelter) I have very few things that fit into the category of material possessions.Why?
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Humans may be "programed" with a will to survive. I doubt they are programed with a disire to own things just to own them. I like a simple life myself. I want things that I use for enjoyment, education (internet) or things I need (food, shelter) I have very few things that fit into the category of material possessions.
Why would you think people are terrible with probability? Are we talking gambling? A person may be great with knowing the probabilty of winning the lottery is very, very, very, slim to none, but still chooses to buy a ticket on that chance. That doesn't mean he is poor or too stupid to know the odds of winning.
Poor people are just stupid. They must have government regulate all aspects of their lives to keep them safe from the evil rich. They cannot be held responsible for their own actions.(sarc) Let's just demonize those with the money. You know, the ones who work and provide jobs so people don't have to be poor.
What's wrong with PT Bartnum? He made a living without gov. handouts, he employed people, he provided amusement and entertainment for people. He didn't force anyone to spend their money on what he was selling them.If there hadn't been a market for what he was legally selling we wouldn't be talking about him now.
You have a very low view on poor people and guess you are not very smart since PT Bartnum is not the one who originally made that quote. Who is stupid now?
I agree. All gambling should be stopped, including race tracks, sports, and other games. Far too many get the bug and end up with nothing, many losing their houses and cars.
If they can't be stopped, they should at least limit bets to a dollar.
For what it's worth, the old school numbers games run by the mob or other gambling syndicates were far more favorable to the players than modern state-run lotteries.
I'm poor, not so smart. I shouldn't have taken Ricks word that PT said that. I'm the stupid one now, unless you are wrong and Rick is right. Then I would be right, but still stupid because I didn't know. I was just taking someone's word because the probability factor seemed to be in my favor.
You are poor? Then why do seem to hate poor folks so much?
The ability to provide for a partner and your family is a very important factor in trying to attract a mate. That's why when men go out on dates we wear the "nice watch," expensive clothes, make our car look really nice, etc. Owning things is a way to display our wealth and display our ability to support a potential partner and offspring.I doubt they are programed with a disire to own things just to own them.
I highly doubt that. For one, having internet necessitates having a computer. My guess is you also own a car, TV, etc. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here).I like a simple life myself. I want things that I use for enjoyment, education (internet) or things I need (food, shelter) I have very few things that fit into the category of material possessions.
Because we are, and it's been demonstrated over and over. And I mean we're COMICALLY bad.Why would you think people are terrible with probability? Are we talking gambling?
"If you're a young human on the Savannah and you hear the leaves rustle you can either stay or run. If you stay and or wrong, it could be a Lion and you get eaten. But if you run, you're safe either way. We're programed to see things that aren't there."
NOW...where Harry Guerrilla goes wrong is that, if this is indeed an innate, human trait (it is) then it should transcend socioeconomic classes and therefore doesn't explain why the poor tend to gamble much more often than the rich.
Studies have said that, in fact, knowledge about statistics IS NOT a factor in how often or how much people gamble. Now, I WORK in a casino and I can tell you I don't 100% agree with this. I do think some think they can win.
But my own opinion is just that the poor have a level of hope that exceeds their rational thinking. They realize they're probably going to lose but MAYBE THIS ONCE they can get lucky!!! After all, they're poor already. What have they got to lose?
Well I think that's an important aspect too. Even people that understand they're not going to win in the long run, still don't understand the idea behind randomness (which is indeed probably harder to understand than risk). "I know I'm not going to win in the long run, but I've lost THREE TRIPS IN A ROW! I have to win SOONER OR LATER!"I think that hope meats up with a less than desirable understanding of how these games work.
The lotto is a catch 22. If you play you will most likely lose but might win. If you never play you will never win.
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