I carry and always have carried insurance. Your anecdotal example aside, there are a whole lot of people today that DONT carry insurance...many by choice, many because they feel they cant afford it (I disagree with most of them BTW...get rid of your cell phone, cable, video games, budget appropriately, and you likely CAN afford insurance. And SHOULD). Regardless...they are now MANDATED to do so.
I'm not all that upset about this, primarily because I am a realist. I saw this coming a long time ago. Reality is, this is just a beginning. Id bet good money that by 2016 we will see universal healthcare implemented, as well as the elimination of medicare, medicaid, and the beginning of the shut-down of veterans administration hospitals, military hospitals, etc. Ive said from the beginning that it isnt about health care reform, its about where the reform is. People are gleeful about trusting the federal government...an entity that cant so much as pass a budget or agree on simple deficit reductions and that is 16 trillion in debt and climbing...with the management of 'healthcare'. Brilliant.
Not lesser human beings, per se. Just empty headed assholes, mostly.
But my opinion of liberals isn't much different. I'm referring to the outer fringes of each ideology, of course. The people in the moderate middle, both liberals and conservatives, appear to have MUCH grey matter in their skulls. They would be much harder to clean up after. But we don't see their head's exploding so no worries mate.
If they opt out of the Medicaid expansion they wil be refusing the additional money too. When is the last time you saw States turn down Fed money?
You skipped the math problem......I'll wait.Yep. Social Darwinism. Very simple and incredibly effective.
I'm partial to both blue and green for most of my wardrobe.
Roberts redeems himself as a true conservative (not a TeaBrain) and protector of the integrity of the court.
They shoot tiggers in Iran.
It always about the money with Conservatives. Why are you all so CHEAP?
IN your opinion what negative effect will it have on small bus-sines?
There is no "there, there" about it.
It is a horrible day for the Country.
You are all talk.I'd rather be dead than a citizen of this country right now.
This is a great day for the United States
I just learned that in 2014 if I don't buy insurance I have to pay a $90.00 fine BUT if I get sick insurance companies have to let me sign up for full coverage. WOW, works for ME! What a great deal, I LOVE IT! I am now for obamacare, God bless Obama and God help America.
You skipped the math problem......I'll wait.
Or you can grow up and deal with it ... like I said.
You are all talk.
How can you people not get the difference between these two things? If I don't get a deduction I still don't have to pay anything unless I was already obligated to do so. The distinction is huge and the ramifications are huge because you can't make a deduction a deterrent, only a motivator. A motivator is limited by what you're willing to give to motivate people. A deterrent (IE, the tax) is only limited by the willingness of people to comply. If you want people to buy electric cars but someone REALLY doesn't want one, what do you think is more devastating to them? Making it so people who don't buy it DON'T receive $10,000 or requiring people to PAY $10,000 out of their pockets for not purchasing it?
Seriously, no distinction seen there AT ALL? Eh Roberts? No? Maybe I'm just crazy but that seems like a huge distinction to me.
Most of the elderly are white because they were born at a time when America was a white country. Their Medicare benefits are being cut by $500 billion and the money is being transferred to the beneficiaries of Obamacare.
The savings actually are wrung from health-care providers, not Medicare beneficiaries. These spending reductions presumably would be a good thing, since virtually everyone agrees that Medicare spending is out of control. In the House Republican budget, lawmakers repealed the Obama health care law but retained all but $10 billion of the nearly $500 billion in Medicare savings, suggesting the actual policies enacted to achieve these spending reductions were not that objectionable to GOP lawmakers.
The Obama health care law also raised Medicare payroll taxes by $113 billion over 10 years, further strengthening the program’s financial condition, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Since about half of the $500 billion stems from reduced outlays for Medicare hospitalization expenses, the payroll taxes and those reductions would add about $358 billion to Medicare trust fund balances.
Actually, the SCOTUS has just decided that mr. Obama did not overstep his authority. And it is very easy to argue that the affordable healthcare is actually for the general welfare of the country IMHO. All of the above just sounds like sour grapes of bad loosers.
There are no cuts in Medicare benefits from the HC law and that 500 billion comes from PROVIDERS not beneficiaries.
You are spouting false GOP talking points again.
Fact Checking the GOP debate: $500 billion in cuts to Medicare? - The Washington Post
Yep! There it is alright.Yep ... unless you're an American who couldn't afford health insurance, or had a preexisting condition, or got cancelled out because they got sick, or exceeded a lifetime limit, or wanted to stay on her parents' policy longer, or wanted more choice than what her employer offered, or worked for herself....
Yeah you just better hope you don't, I don't know, get into a car accident, collapse, anything that meant you couldn't "Just get insurance" before you got to the hospital.
Have fun paying out of pocket.
Please copy and paste this message or a similar one to your FEDERAL representatives: Dear --insert representatives name here-- , Now that the Supreme Court has upheld President Obama's unfunded mandate forcing individuals to purchase a product it is time to get rid of those justices as well as to begin impeachment proceedings against Mr. Obama. Nowhere in our Constitution is there authority for the Federal Government to force citizens to purchase a product or service. Our Constitution provides a list of the powers of the Congress in Article One, Section Eight to wit: "The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States" The "general Welfare" clause was not and does not indicate that individual persons should be a part of a forced purchase of any kind. According to today's news, the mandate has been upheld as a tax and as such that tax does not provide for common defense, pay debts, nor promote the general welfare of the nation. Mr. Obama has overstepped his authority and defied the Congress many times with executive orders and has, through possibly unethical contacts and back-room deals, forced this unwarranted and intrusive "affordable" health care law against the will of the people. The Congress is supposed to be representative of its constituents, NOT of the insurance companies or other corporations. I urge you to create legislation to repeal this unfunded mandate and to prevent any such law from ever being introduced in the future. Thank you,
Please don't talk about me personally. Our discussion won't be advanced by personalizing it.
This decision can be used for political advantage with whites in exactly the same way that the president's recent decision on DREAMERS was used with regard to Latinos. White people will generally find the quality of their health care decreasing. White seniors will be told that the president took $500 billion from their Medicare and gave it instead to the beneficiaries of Obamacare.
Grievances will be whipped up and exploited just like the grievances of African Americans are exploited by Jesse Jackson and his ilk.
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