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Scientists Extract Images Directly from the Brain

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Source [Telegraph.co.uk | Scientists develop software that can map dreams]

A team of Japanese scientists have created a device that enables the processing and imaging of thoughts and dreams as experienced in the brain to appear on a computer screen.

While researchers have so far only created technology that can reproduce simple images from the brain, the discovery paves the way for the ability to unlock people's dreams and other brain processes.

A spokesman at ATR Computational Neuroscience Laboratories said: "It was the first time in the world that it was possible to visualise what people see directly from the brain activity.

"By applying this technology, it may become possible to record and replay subjective images that people perceive like dreams." The scientists, lead by chief researcher Yukiyaso Kamitani, focused on the image recognition procedures in the retina of the human eye.

It is while looking at an object that the eye's retina is able to recognise an image, which is subsequently converted into electrical signals sent into the brain's visual cortex.

The research investigated how electrical signals are captured and reconstructed into images, according to the study, which will be published in the US journal Neuron.

As part of the experiment, researchers showed testers the six letters of the word "neuron", before using the technology to measure their brain activity and subsequently reconstruct the letters on a computer screen.
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I'm very skeptical that this will lead to a way to process complex images. Letters and other symbols are I believe, processed differently than general images.

The conspiracy Theorists will be all over this, which should be entertaining.
 
I hope this never becomes a viable technology. I can see the abuses already.
 
Found a pic

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Looks like a bit more than just thinking about letters, as the pics show letters of the same (uncommon) font as the source images. I'd like to see some follow up on this as it is extremely interesting
 
they did this in wild, wild west back in 1999. I'm so not impressed.
 
Everyone knows im a cheerleader for science, but I'm a cheerleader for liberty more, especially privacy, and this scares the crap out of me (if true) especially if they can ever do it remotely.

I never underestimate how easily people can be fooled by a "this is for criminals, if you have nothing to hide..." kind of argument.
 
Lachean said:
Everyone knows im a cheerleader for science, but I'm a cheerleader for liberty more, especially privacy, and this scares the crap out of me (if true) especially if they can ever do it remotely.

I never underestimate how easily people can be fooled by a "this is for criminals, if you have nothing to hide..." kind of argument.
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Word, especially since criminality is relative.

But.

I find it hard to believe that the powerful human mind would be entirely incapable of defending itself from such an invasion, and I believe the mainstream use of this will probably be for self-projection purpose across lower planes such as the internet... a sort of step-down in dimension standards, requiring an avatar.

We'll be like gods!
 
I don't think ANYONE wants to see the crazy **** that goes through my head.



Not even the Japanese!
 
Tucker Case said:
I don't think ANYONE wants to see the crazy **** that goes through my head.



Not even the Japanese!
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I think we should all get little shirts, that have some kind of screen that projects what we are thinking. The truth may hurt some, but at least everybody would be honest with each other.

Lots of women would see themselves naked, and probably in a better way than they really are.
 
WI Crippler said:
I think we should all get little shirts, that have some kind of screen that projects what we are thinking. The truth may hurt some, but at least everybody would be honest with each other.

Lots of women would see themselves naked, and probably in a better way than they really are.
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I'd probably get arrested for indecency :(
 
Although I'd love to see what my wife is thinking when she looks in the mirror. She can't be seeing the same thing I am with all the complaining she does.
 
Yeah, even as a strict anti-conspiracist this scares me. That being said, I just don't see how this could be possible in any seriously complex fashion. If you're remembering a specific picture that's one thing, but 'recording' a dream...it would seem to me to be such an intangible thing; as much imagined as it is 'seen'. Lacking edges, corners, or relevant visual details (for example, let's say someone is chasing you in a dream: You know he has hair, but what color is it? What style is it? He's wearing shoes, but what do they look like?). It's not that I think dreams are 'special', necessarily, I just don't see how they're something that can be translated as a series of images you could put on a piece of paper in any meaningful fashion.
 
Tucker Case said:
More likely the department of agriculture and homeland security would get involved. The FCC would just fine me constantly.
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The things you would do with an ear of corn... well, its just disturbing. I can't say I would blame them.
 
Lachean said:
Everyone knows im a cheerleader for science, but I'm a cheerleader for liberty more, especially privacy, and this scares the crap out of me (if true) especially if they can ever do it remotely.

I never underestimate how easily people can be fooled by a "this is for criminals, if you have nothing to hide..." kind of argument.
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I don't know. If we could refine the process, and perform it remotely with portable equipment, we could all inhabit each others' minds. We could blend the organic and the synthetic.

We could add each persons biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. It seems like it would be futile to resist.
 
This will only result in yet even more young, naked girls on my screen.:mrgreen:
 
I personally find it fascinating. We remember a very small percentage of what we dream and that's only when we remember anything. I'd be very interested to see what develops of this.
 
yeah i saw this yesterday too...very interesting...could be a good thing, but i think it'll end up bad if the technology is sufficiently developed...maybe i watch too much TV :)
 
I think it would be cool if I could record my dreams and watch them. I hardly remember anything from my dreams.
 
Kernel Sanders said:
Found a pic

200812111441.jpg

Looks like a bit more than just thinking about letters, as the pics show letters of the same (uncommon) font as the source images. I'd like to see some follow up on this as it is extremely interesting
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But wait, what I can see in your diagram is that the individual

1)- "sees" the letter with his eyes.

2)-The signals from the eye are sent to the brain,

3)- Wires connected from the brain to a computer transfer what the individual is seeing

4)- so, the image that appear in the computer screen is nothing but a transfer or a hijacking of images perceived objetively by the individual.

I don't see in your diagram or in the article that images from memories can be seen in the computer. This is what the article says about how their tests are working so far.

The scientists, lead by chief researcher Yukiyaso Kamitani, focused on the image recognition procedures in the retina of the human eye.

It is while looking at an object that the eye's retina is able to recognise an image, which is subsequently converted into electrical signals sent into the brain's visual cortex.

The research investigated how electrical signals are captured and reconstructed into images, according to the study, which will be published in the US journal Neuron.

I think that other new releases will show and explain more in the future.
 
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