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Russian Lawmakers Seek to Ban Soviet-Nazi Comparisons

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5/6/21
Russian lawmakers have proposed banning comparisons between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany as the Kremlin seeks to revive interest in the memory of World War II and praise for Russia’s Soviet past. The bill submitted in the lower-house State Duma on Wednesday follows President Vladimir Putin’s orders earlier this year to legally prohibit publicly equating the two former powers’ roles in the war. Co-author Yelena Yampolskaya said on Facebook that the legal ban does not infringe on freedom of speech but maintains to instill “decency.” “The Soviet army is the liberator and therefore the benefactor of Europe. Discussions of specific situations are needed, but without forgetting that the Soviet Union, the Russian people were fighting the main battle against the universal evil of Nazism,” she wrote. The proposed amendments to Russia’s law cementing the Soviet victory over the Nazis do not appear to impose criminal punishment for equating the U.S.S.R. with Nazi Germany.

They follow Putin’s criticism toward the European Parliament’s 2019 condemnation of a Soviet-Nazi non-aggression treaty and a year of mutual recriminations with Poland over which country was responsible for the war’s outbreak. Russia disagrees with its former satellite states over the role that Soviet dictator Josef Stalin played in World War II for signing the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact with Nazi Germany. The lawmakers’ proposal also comes days before Russia marks 76 years since the Soviet victory in World War II with a massive military parade on Red Square. To become law, the amendments need three votes of approval in the State Duma and one in the upper-house Federation Council before it can receive Putin’s signature.



Putin is rehabilitating Joseph Stalin and revising history to do so.

Stalin butchered millions and enslaved many countries his Red Army "liberated".
 





Putin is rehabilitating Joseph Stalin and revising history to do so.

Stalin butchered millions and enslaved many countries his Red Army "liberated".

Dictators will use whatever philosophy is closest at and to suppress and dominate.

The problem is not the philosophy employed, it is the suppression and the dominance.

When you see people being stripped of rights and silenced with the approval of, or at the direction of, the Government, it should be a warning sign to all.

Those who do not recognize the warning signs are oddly blind. Also, usually, partisan devotees.
 





Putin is rehabilitating Joseph Stalin and revising history to do so.

Stalin butchered millions and enslaved many countries his Red Army "liberated".

You don’t have the slightest problem with Ukraine “rehabilitating” its SS thugs, so your post is as hypocritical as ever.
 
That whole mythical Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact thing in the History books may be problematic for the Russian Minister of Propoganda Education .
 
Putin conveniently forgets that persnickety chapter where Hitler AND Stalin together carve up eastern Europe.
 
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Putin conveniently forgets that persnickety chapter where Hitler AND Stalin together carve up eastern Europe.

Ukraine conveniently forgets the fact that the Nazis’ entire plan was for them to be starved to death or otherwise enslaved.
 
Ukraine conveniently forgets the fact that the Nazis’ entire plan was for them to be starved to death or otherwise enslaved.
Ukraine is now a big recruiting ground for em.
 
I don't respond to hacks

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To equate communism with nazism is either a sign of blatant ignorance or deliberate meanness.

The Nazis discriminated against people based on innate traits and they even measured people's skulls. A person cannot change his or her racial identity, and that is what the ideology of nazism was based on.
Communism, on the other hand, claimed that everyone can change, develop and improve.
Nazism did not set out to achieve the good for all, because people are not initially equal and it is necessary to achieve the good for some, high-ranking, at the expense of others, low-ranking.
Communism, on the contrary, set the ultimate goal of equal rights and equal opportunities for all people without exception.

So when you equate communism with nazism, ask yourself: Am I a fool or a scoundrel?

US Ambassador to the USSR in 1937-39 Joseph Davis on communism and nazism and their fundamental difference
July 7, 1941

"My friend Lindbergh surprised me by saying that he preferred Nazism to communism. In general, making such a choice is a desperate thing, but the difference between these two subjects is too great.
Both Germany and Russia are totalitarian states. Both are realistic. Both of them apply strict and ruthless methods. However, there is one significant difference that can be shown as follows.
If Marx, Lenin, or Stalin were Christian believers, and if one tried to place the communist experiment carried out in Russia within the framework of the dogmas of the Catholic or Protestant Church, the result would be declared the greatest achievement of Christianity in the entire history of mankind in its quest for humanity and the implementation of Christian commandments in the life of society. The fact is that the Christian religion can be combined with communist principles without committing much violence to its economic and political goals, the main of which is the "brotherhood of all people".
If we conduct a similar test in relation to Nazism, we will find that it is impossible to combine the two ideologies. The principle of Christian ideology cannot be imposed on the Nazi philosophy without destroying the political basis of the state. Fascist philosophy creates a state that is actually based on the denial of the altruistic principles of Christianity. For the Nazis, love, charity, justice, and Christian values are just manifestations of weakness and decline if they contradict the needs of the state.
This is the whole difference - the communist Soviet state can act with Christianity as the basis for achieving the ultimate goal - the universal brotherhood of people. The Communists allow the state to die out as the individual improves, while the Nazi ideal is the exact opposite - the state is above all else."
 
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To equate communism with nazism is either a sign of blatant ignorance or deliberate meanness.


Well let's see. Stalin's Siberian Gulag camps DID do away with the Nazi's messy ovens.
 
Well let's see. Stalin's Siberian Gulag camps DID do away with the Nazi's messy ovens.
Well, you don't have to answer the choice I suggested above. It's all clear about you.
 
US Ambassador to the USSR in 1937-39 Joseph Davis on communism and nazism and their fundamental difference


Ambassador Joseph Davies was an admirer of Stalin's Russia....

Davies even claimed that communism was "protecting the Christian world of free men", and he urged all Christians "by the faith you have found at your mother's knee, in the name of the faith you have found in temples of worship" to embrace the Soviet Union.][12]
 
:rolleyes:

No decent person admires Stalin or Hitler.

What's your excuse?
 
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