Ron DeSantis Says Floridians Have Right to Hit Protesters With Cars

[Atomic Kid]

Never enough to encounter a mob though, eh?

I don't know about you, but where I live and have been, mobs are rare. But if you want to look for trouble, you may eventually find it.

How do you turn around on a one-way street when you're surrounded? Here's Lake Shore Drive in Chicago yesterday, which is an expressway that free-flowing traffic would move at 50-60 mph but is also routinely backed up during rush hours, weekends, major events, or just all summer in general. It's also along the Lake Michigan shores and is therefore very curvy. You literally can't see what's ahead and cannot turn around. There are very few ways to exit the road at all in the downtown area--just a few intersections that have traffic lights, and long stretches of road between them.



Thankfully this crowd was just walking through, but what would you do if you were driving and came around this curve and were suddenly surrounded by this crowd and they were being aggressive?

A major accident that completely shuts down a highway going in a particular direction amounts to the same thing. Most of us have likely been there before, and all you can do is stay put right where you are until the authorities either open a lane or facilitate a detour that allows the backed-up vehicles to reverse direction. Been there and done that. But if you see a mob and stubbornly continue driving on into and through it to find yourself surrounded. Sorry, but that's on you. You had a choice and you made a poor choice.

 

[Atomic Kid]

Do mobs only surround the front of vehicles when they mob them? Nope. What if you can't back up either?

I would assume that if you are surrounded, it will be because you chose to continue into them instead of turning around at the first opportunity to do so.

 

[RF667799]

Today I learned that mobs are stationary.

 

[Maidenrules29]

I would assume that if you are surrounded, it will be because you chose to continue into them instead of turning around at the first opportunity to do so.

 

[dcsports]

You are the one who may want to consider the Law of Holes. For instance, say you inadvertently drive into active civil unrest and a protest. You're now in the hole. If you decide to press your way forward through it anyway, you're digging it deeper by refusing to stop and potentially escalating the problem. The second Law of Holes is that you need to recognize that you haven't solved the problem and are still in the hole even after ceasing to dig, and that further action is required to extricate yourself from the hole. In this case, that would mean retreating or turning around. With DeSantis, what we're talking about here is the 'law of an A-hole'.

So you are still digging.

 

[Maidenrules29]

I would assume that if you are surrounded, it will be because you chose to continue into them instead of turning around at the first opportunity to do so.

IDK how many videos I can show you where innocent people drove into situations they had no idea would turn into a dangerous mob situation, but here is one. What should this lady have done exactly???? I can show you MANY more. Or would you like to just friggin learn something today and look for yourself?

 

[Hello My Son]

I don't know about you, but where I live and have been, mobs are rare. But if you want to look for trouble, you may eventually find it.

When large protests go awry, they tend to do so in the heart of downtown Chicago, where escape is not really possible if you're in a car and surrounded.

There's also random mobs/takeovers that commonly occur in downtown Chicago and the South Loop. Have you ever been caught in the middle of one of those? They typically will just start beating on people and even if CPD is nearby, they sometimes won't do anything about it.

A major accident that completely shuts down a highway going in a particular direction amounts to the same thing. Most of us have likely been there before, and all you can do is stay put right where you are until the authorities either open a lane or facilitate a detour that allows the backed-up vehicles to reverse direction. Been there and done that. But if you see a mob and stubbornly continue driving on into and through it to find yourself surrounded. Sorry, but that's on you. You had a choice and you made a poor choice.

I'm clearly talking about when you cannot see the mob ahead and I showed you a clear example of where people would be trapped and unable to turn around. Blaming drivers for.....driving on roads is really ****ing silly.

And I didn't even go into the fact that we have a complete moron of a mayor, probably the worst in the country, who routinely allows criminal takeovers like this to occur without intervention.

 

[Hello My Son]

Today I learned that mobs are stationary.

Yep, @Atomic Kid made it clear that the only way people get surrounded by a violent mob is to see them down the road and CHOOSE to drive right into them. There must be no corners or tall buildings in his town, where the mobs just stand there waiting to be driven into. It's wild stuff!

 

[Atomic Kid]

He wouldn't be cuz people could just get out of the way.

How clueless can you be? They're not going to get out of the way. They're there for a reason, whether you agree with it or not. You need to recognize the situation and not do anything that escalates the situation.

Sounds like the law of fascism to me. We've scumbags take over the street and don't get the hell out of the way and they pay the price for their own stupidity and somehow someone else's fault.

Spoken like a true fascist.

If your ideas were worth listening to you wouldn't need to be throwing your fit in the street people would consider it maybe try having less stupid beliefs.

If you believe people expressing their First Amendment rights by blocking a street, that in itself causes no harm to anyone, are fair game because you're simply being inconvenienced by it is a very stupid belief.

 

[CLAX1911]

How clueless can you be?

That people refusing to get out of the way is why they would be hit by a person panicking.

Is whatever twaddle you're protesting worth your life? If so have a revolution

They're not going to get out of the way.

Because they are stupid.

They're there for a reason,

Because they're ideas are stupid and nobody agrees and they want to make their incompetence the world's problem.

It won't end well for them

whether you agree with it or not. You need to recognize the situation and not do anything that escalates the situation.

Get out of the way when someone in a car is charging at you

Spoken like a true fascist.

I'm not the one supporting bullying pretending to be protest

If you believe people expressing their First Amendment rights by blocking a street,

That's not a first amendment right. Police can arrest and fine you for impeding traffic.

that in itself causes no harm to anyone, are fair game because you're simply being inconvenienced by it is a very stupid belief.

I don't think they are fare game it's just inevitable and I take a little schadenfreude when they get their just desserts.

 

[Atomic Kid]

When large protests go awry, they tend to do so in the heart of downtown Chicago, where escape is not really possible if you're in a car and surrounded.

There's also random mobs/takeovers that commonly occur in downtown Chicago and the South Loop. Have you ever been caught in the middle of one of those? They typically will just start beating on people and even if CPD is nearby, they sometimes won't do anything about it.






I'm clearly talking about when you cannot see the mob ahead and I showed you a clear example of where people would be trapped and unable to turn around. Blaming drivers for.....driving on roads is really ****ing silly.

And I didn't even go into the fact that we have a complete moron of a mayor, probably the worst in the country, who routinely allows criminal takeovers like this to occur without intervention.

We aren't talking about Chicago here. No government official in Chicago has advocated for such a policy. Can you try harder to keep the focus where it belongs here? And like I said before, such incidents are rare. How about you? Have you ever driven headlong into an active demonstration? If so, why would you do something so stupid as that? Can you always see a major accident ahead? No, you almost always learn about them after they have happened, when the traffic starts backing up, and maybe when the radio later tells you what's happening. And there isn't a thing you can do about it until the authorities find and establish a route to go around it. Until then, you're stuck and have no choice but to accept it. Nothing different. But to continue to try to plow ahead through a crowd of protesters is just silly. It's just stupid and recklessly dangerous. You're just digging the hole even deeper. So what if you're late getting to where you are going? What's the big deal?

 

[Atomic Kid]

That people refusing to get out of the way is why they would be hit by a person panicking.

Is whatever twaddle you're protesting worth your life? If so have a revolution

Because they are stupid.

Because they're ideas are stupid and nobody agrees and they want to make their incompetence the world's problem.

It won't end well for them

Get out of the way when someone in a car is charging at you

I'm not the one supporting bullying pretending to be protest

That's not a first amendment right. Police can arrest and fine you for impeding traffic.

I don't think they are fare game it's just inevitable and I take a little schadenfreude when they get their just desserts.

Jesus dude, you can't even type out a complete, coherent sentence, and you want to talk about other people being stupid?

 

[Atomic Kid]

Today I learned that mobs are stationary.

So in summation. You've learned nothing at all

 

[braindrain]

The police cheif said the police would shoot protestors dead and someone else said to run over people blocking the road.

Both of those statements should be grounds for firing those people without a pension.

That you have to remove all the context from their statements shows that either you don’t actually know what they said or you are lying. So which is it.

 

[braindrain]

I know some people are chomping at the bit to defend themselves, it’s the abuse of the definition that was being pointed out.

It is no different as previously labeling anyone that keyed a Tesla a terrorist and abusing the word invasion and national security.

MAGA sure seems to abuse any words or definitions that would allow them to bring harm to anyone that disagrees with their political beliefs. This playbook is not new, it was most popular a century ago.

Coming from the side that is continually lying about what Desantis said you whining about abusing words is rather ironic.

 

[braindrain]

"Protecting oneself" is your code for "they're making me mad and I don't like them." Your deflection seems to be trivializing, even condoning this violence.

More lies. Why is it up can never argue anything honestly. And do you really think you bs isn’t obvious.

 

[braindrain]

The right wants violence everywhere. This is why "people" such as DeathSantis want malicious people to run over protesters.

More lies.

 

[Phys251]

More lies. Why is it up can never argue anything honestly. And do you really think you bs isn’t obvious.

More lies.

Prove it. Shouldn't be that hard for you.

 

[braindrain]

And there's the ad hom attack. Was wondering when you would resort to that!

Whining about an ad hom attack right after you lied and made up some pretend code that you claim a poster is using is pretty ironic.

Though I doubt you are capable of realizing why.

 

[Phys251]

Whining about an ad hom attack right after you lied and made up some pretend code that you claim a poster is using is pretty ironic.

Though I doubt you are capable of realizing why.

All of that is your uneducated opinion.

 

[braindrain]

Prove it. Shouldn't be that hard for you.

You lied about some stupid code and you know it. Just like you know you are lying about what DeSantis said. It’s why you have to remove all the context from his statement.

 

[Phys251]

You lied about some stupid code and you know it. Just like you know you are lying about what DeSantis said. It’s why you have to remove all the context from his statement.

So you can't prove your baseless allegation. Got it. Anything else you'd like to whine about?

 

[braindrain]

All of that is your uneducated opinion.

No it’s a demonstrable fact.

You made up some stupid code and tried to use that to insult someone. Then you whined about others using an ad hom to insult you.

But like I said comprehension has never been your strong suit.

 

[braindrain]

So you can't prove your baseless allegation. Got it. Anything else you'd like to whine about?

I just did.
You just lack the ability to understand it

 

[Phys251]

No it’s a demonstrable fact.

You made up some stupid code and tried to use that to insult someone. Then you whined about others using an ad hom to insult you.

But like I said comprehension has never been your strong suit.

Got any more feckless insults to try to fling my way? I'm sure you do!

I just did.
You just lack the ability to understand it

No you didn't. You just stamped your feet and insisted you're right because you say so. That may have worked for you when you were a child, but it won't work on a debate forum of adults.