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Ron DeSantis Says Floridians Have Right to Hit Protesters With Cars

Lord of Planar said:
Read the whole statement in context.

He is correct. If you are surrounded and feel threatened, you have the right to flee... That means driving out...

What right do others have to intimidate you by surrounding you.

Courts have ruled on this in the past.
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Driving out, yes. But not over a person. That's what that cretin DeSantis is advocating.
 
snakestretcher said:
Don't like hearing your arguments thrown back at you? Tough.
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If you were throwing my arguments back at me, you would've quoted my arguments directly. Instead, you engaged in repeated strawman fallacies.

Desperately relying on the tactic of logical fallacies indicates that you have awareness that your own logic doesn't hold up against mine.

Engage in rational arguments from this point forward if you want your posts to be taken seriously. It's not that difficult. You just have to put any emotions and reactive tendencies aside and instead make posts in which you engage in basic reasoning skills.

This is a really easy thing to do if one commits to it. Thanks in advance!
 
Absentglare said:
The only reason he’s bringing it up is to fantasize about killing libs.

There isn’t some widespread problem of cars constantly getting swarmed by protestors, trapping them. It’s a hypothetical they create to psychologically predispose the right to terrorism, to political violence.
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Could be…don’t know…still reasonable that if a mob surrounds your car you have the right to try to get away and if one gets hit it’s on them.
 
snakestretcher said:
Driving out, yes. But not over a person. That's what that cretin DeSantis is advocating.
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If you are threaten, and have no other option...

Then what?

I'm sorry, I will run over those who hold me hostage if I must.
 
snakestretcher said:
Driving out, yes. But not over a person. That's what that cretin DeSantis is advocating.
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" DeSantis was speaking on The Rubin Report on Wednesday when he said: "We also have a policy that if you're driving on one of those streets and a mob comes and surrounds your vehicle, and threatens you, you have a right to flee for your safety. "And so if you drive off and you hit one of these people, that's their fault for impinging on you." "

It's exactly what he said.

People are reading the headline, and the OP (which didn't have the relevant quote) and assuming something else.
 
dcsports said:
" DeSantis was speaking on The Rubin Report on Wednesday when he said: "We also have a policy that if you're driving on one of those streets and a mob comes and surrounds your vehicle, and threatens you, you have a right to flee for your safety. "And so if you drive off and you hit one of these people, that's their fault for impinging on you." "

It's exactly what he said.

People are reading the headline, and the OP (which didn't have the relevant quote) and assuming something else.
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DeSantis is an ignorant prick. So running someone down is the fault of the person being run down, because they delayed you getting home for dinner?
 
snakestretcher said:
DeSantis is an ignorant prick. So running someone down is the fault of the person being run down, because they delayed you getting home for dinner?
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You're actually arguing that if someone is attacked, they don't have a right to do everything they can to escape.

But DeSantis is the one you're saying is ignorant....:ROFLMAO:
 
You fail to understand the situation.

Your car is surrounded. You are in fear of your life.

You have no place to go but through the people.

What do you do?
 
Hello My Son said:
You're actually arguing that if someone is attacked, they don't have a right to do everything they can to escape.

But DeSantis is the one you're saying is ignorant....:ROFLMAO:
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This is just how out of touch and whacked out these people are regarding reality.
 
Lord of Planar said:
This is just how out of touch and whacked out these people are regarding reality.
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True. This is pretty basic stuff. The right to protect oneself against aggression and other forms of harm has been well established for centuries.
 
Ikari said:
Yeah, if you start pushing through a crowd of people with a vehicle, you've initiated the conflict.

Turn around, find a different road.
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The person using the road the way it is supposed to be used is not at fault for any conflict. The jaywalkers are.
 
Cosmo said:
The person using the road the way it is supposed to be used is not at fault for any conflict. The jaywalkers are.
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Nope. Even if someone is jaywalking, you can't run them over.
 
Cosmo said:
The person using the road the way it is supposed to be used is not at fault for any conflict. The jaywalkers are.
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It's remarkable that so many people have actually convinced themselves that people obtain special rights when they start breaking the law, and that those special rights include threatening or harming innocent people.

You can't make up this level of detachment from reality.
 
Cosmo said:
:rolleyes: See post 164 that you didn't answer.
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No, you're just trying to make a dishonest argument. If you come across a pedestrian on the road, be they there legally or not, and you decide to push through them; you've initiated the conflict.
 
Hello My Son said:
It's remarkable that so many people have actually convinced themselves that people obtain special rights when they start breaking the law, and that those special rights include threatening or harming innocent people.

You can't make up this level of detachment from reality.
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It's the same person who thinks all the millions of illegals should get a trial every time they jump the border.
Ikari

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Cosmo said:
Should every border jumper get a trial? By some estimates there is a million illegal entries into the United States annually. There are also a few thousand trials taking place annually (<100,000 from the numbers I've seen). It wouldn't even work mathematically.
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Yes, they should get a trial.
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And that's after I pointed out there's a million illegal entries annually and only <100k trials in the US.

Taking the same detached, irrational approach to roads I see.
 
Cosmo said:
It's the same person who thinks all the millions of illegals should get a trial every time they jump the border.
Ikari

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Cosmo said:
Should every border jumper get a trial? By some estimates there is a million illegal entries into the United States annually. There are also a few thousand trials taking place annually (<100,000 from the numbers I've seen). It wouldn't even work mathematically.
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Yes, they should get a trial.
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And that's after I pointed out there's a million illegal entries annually and only <100k trials in the US.

Taking the same detached, irrational approach to roads I see.
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Yes, that's not even mathematically possible. At the very least, a streamlined process would be necessary.
 
Ikari said:
No, you're just trying to make a dishonest argument. If you come across a pedestrian on the road, be they there legally or not, and you decide to push through them; you've initiated the conflict.
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This is correct, but the original argument has to do with a different scenario.
 
Cope said:
There is nothing strange about that thinking. It's an absolute fact, and it holds true for everyone.

The few things that keep people from doing it?

Their own sense of right and wrong, and governments with enforcement powers.

All you need to do is look at history or do a little thought exercise.

Surely, even you, are capable of that.
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I'm capable enough to know nobody gave you the right to steal from others.
 
bongsaway said:
I'm capable enough to know nobody gave you the right to steal from others.
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You don't have the right to threaten, assault or falsely imprison others and then pretend like it's a legal form of protest.
 
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