Roger Stone Calls For Trump To 'Declare Martial Law' To Seize Power If He Loses

[post]

Why would you oppose that? I'd like to see all mail in ballots taken control of by federal marshals.

Try, try hard, to find ANY scandal - ever - against US Marshals. Bet you can't. There should be police from NON PARTISAN DEPARTMENTS (meaning not sheriffs or city police) at every polling place and that they have constant control of ballot security.

I have a good memory, and it took me one minute to answer your challenge.,...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...-leader/59cfc10a-c6f3-44de-a19b-e4dcc3664cab/

U.S. PROBE FAULTS MARSHALS OVER TIES TO ARGUS LEADER
By Robert O'Harrow Jr.December 3, 1992
A Justice Department probe has found that U.S. Marshals Service officials made "serious misjudgments" when they gave a badge and arrest authority to a wealthy Middleburg man who had formed a private Loudoun County group to provide armored vehicles to law enforcement agencies, sources said.

In an internal report, Justice investigators said the Marshals Service did not have a good reason to grant such authority to J.C. Herbert Bryant Jr., who also used to head another private group that promotes the service.

The investigators said they found no evidence of criminal wrongdoing by the Marshals Service, but said the service did not conduct a thorough check of Bryant's limited background in law enforcement before allowing him to carry concealed weapons and giving him access to senior Marshals Service officials, the sources said.

"That's not normal procedure," said one law enforcement source, who asked not to be identified.

The Justice probe began two months ago, after an incident in which Bryant was detained by D.C. police who had found five handguns in his car outside the Mayflower Hotel on Connecticut Avenue. Bryant, who had resigned as a Marshals Service special deputy in June, was released by police without being charged after a marshal intervened.

Marshals Service Deputy Director John Twomey said later that Bryant was allowed to go free after the agency told D.C. police that Bryant "was neither a criminal nor a terrorist."

But since then, the U.S. attorney's office in the District has issued an arrest warrant for Bryant, accusing him of illegally possessing weapons in the city. The District's strict anti-gun laws call for a penalty of up to one year in jail and a $1,000 fine for each weapon.
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I would like to see people with your ideas go to internment camps (escorted by federal marshals if you like). Unlike the Japanese Americans in WWII, people with your ideas are really dangerous to the American republic.

The states are the ones which control the elections within their territory. If you do not like that, then have federal agencies take control of redistricting too.

He and all pre-Trump party republicans were for "states rights" before "the personality" of the Trump-cult-of-personality instructed the entire cult to oppose states rights when it suits Trump to temporarily oppose them. This is why there is no 2020 Trump party election platform, and why I've warned my close relative since Trump announced, "Mexicans, they're rapists", that when Trump and Trump party are finally relegated to history's ash heap, the republican party and evangelical christianity will join Trump there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...ump-tulsa-pattern-racially-divisive-politics/
From Ronald Reagan in Philadelphia, Miss., to Donald Trump ...www.washingtonpost.com › nation › 2020/06/19 › ron...
Jun 19, 2020 - Reagan knew all of this and still held a raucous rally in Neshoba County, where he declared his allegiance to “states' rights,” a dog whistle fully ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...oba-county-fair-says-about-southern-politics/
What the Neshoba County Fair says about Southern politics ...www.washingtonpost.com › news › the-fix › 2014/07/31
Jul 31, 2014 - Now there are two ways of looking at Reagan's decision to go to Philadelphia, Miss., and speak about states' rights. He may have done it to court ...

 

[pamak]

He and all pre-Trump party republicans were for "states rights" before "the personality" of the Trump-cult-of-personality instructed the entire cult to oppose states rights when it suits Trump to temporarily oppose them. This is why there is no 2020 Trump party election platform, and why I've warned my close relative since Trump announced, "Mexicans, they're rapists", that when Trump and Trump party are finally relegated to history's ash heap, the republican party and evangelical christianity will join Trump there.

I edited my post because I chose not to reach his level. Some people think that freedom of speech comes without personal responsibility in choosing what to say. We are approaching a point where the freedom of speech as it is exercised by some irresponsible hacks and trolls (Stone among them) will have serious consequences by inciting violence and perhaps insurrection if we have a case like Al-Gore/ Bush controversy in the 2000 elections!

 

[pamak]

Pick him back up.

18 U.S. Code SS 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

Unfortunately, Barr and Trump are is his buddies

Johnson presses Barr on reducing Roger Stone's recommended sentence | TheHill

Johnson asked Barr about the Justice Department's decision to recommend a lesser sentence for Stone after Trump tweeted that the 7-to-9-year prison sentence prosecutors initially recommended was “horrible and unfair.”

Anyway, we should not be surprised if all those who befriended the Russians (and asked for its help) from Roger Stone to Manafort, Kushner, Trump Jr, Trump have an "open mind" regarding martial law. This is how they do politics in Russia

 

[post]

I edited my post because I chose not to reach his level. Some people think that freedom of speech comes without personal responsibility in choosing what to say. We are approaching a point where the freedom of speech as it is exercised by some irresponsible hacks and trolls (Stone among them) will have serious consequences by inciting violence and perhaps insurrection if we have a case like Al-Gore/ Bush controversy in the 2000 elections!

The brainwashing includes a rigid belief in authority and republican political activism except when it contradicts whatever Trump dictates.

This man, Bryant of the Prescott Bush enabled and protected Greenwich, CT mega-millionaire family is the poster child for republican malfeasance and big money
powered political influence. But their story is that the "Dems" are the real criminals in politics, despite having no reasonable explanation for why "Dems" are rarely, if ever actually indicted, much less successfully prosecuted!

I happen to be a stoodent of the modern history of "big money" national level republican politician criminality. It's rather easy because at the center of it was
sponsorship of Bush family political "front men".

Interior Department Drops Objections to an Observation Tower ...The New York Times - Breaking News, World News & Multimedia › 1971/07/11 › archives › interior-dep...
Jul 11, 1971 - Work on the concrete foot ings for the tower had ceased in June, ... 41‐year‐ old Washington businessman, and J. C. Herbert Bryant Jr., ... The settlement, which took most of the opposition leaders in Gettysburg by surprise, .

HE PLEADS INDIGENT - The Washington Postwww.washingtonpost.com › archive › local › 1996/04/18
Apr 18, 1996 - J.C. Herbert Bryant Jr., 57, a self-described police booster from ... he used to conduct undercover investigations of international drug dealing.

LOUDOUN SEVERS TIES TO ARGUS - The Washington Postwww.washingtonpost.com › archive › local › 1992/05/12
May 12, 1992 - ... group founded six years ago by Isom and J.C. Herbert Bryant Jr. ... drug investigator and turned law enforcement into his life's passion.

United States of America, Appellee, v. J.c. Herbert Bryant, Jr ...law.justia.com › cases › federal › appellate-courts
United States of America, Appellee, v. J.c. Herbert Bryant, Jr., Appellant, 117 F.3d 1464 (D.C. Cir. 1997) case opinion from the US Court of Appeals for the District ...
Missing: drug ‎| Must include: drug

Bryant's mother, Magdalena Ohrstrom was the daughter of George Ohrstrom, a close friend of Prescott Bush who used his influence to assist Ohrstrom in reinstatement by the SEC....

https://larouchepub.com/eiw/public/...1215_031-magalen_ohrstrom_bryant_a_hunt_c.pdf
Magalen Ohrstrom Bryant - Executive Intelligence Review
PDF
Dec 15, 1995 - life when "friends" in Connecticut arranged for the Merritt. Parkway to pass through his property, which was purchased at a huge markUp. One of the ... George Ohrstrom was moved from the New York area to. Loudoun's Hunt ...

 

[pamak]

Did anybody mention that Trump also commuted the sentence of Roger Stone?

Trump's commutation of ally Roger Stone's sentence sparks outrage | US news | The Guardian

Trump's commutation of ally Roger Stone's sentence sparks outrage

Mitt Romney calls move ‘unprecedented, historic corruption’

...

Special counsel Robert Mueller weighed in on Saturday night, declaring that “Roger Stone remains a convicted felon, and rightly so.”
The president commuted Stone’s sentence on Friday despite the US attorney general previously having declared Stone’s conviction “righteous”.

 

[post]

I edited my post because I chose not to reach his level. Some people think that freedom of speech comes without personal responsibility in choosing what to say. We are approaching a point where the freedom of speech as it is exercised by some irresponsible hacks and trolls (Stone among them) will have serious consequences by inciting violence and perhaps insurrection if we have a case like Al-Gore/ Bush controversy in the 2000 elections!

Their history of lack of scruples, or for that matter, any predictable consistency, is quite a long one.

Press Briefing by Ari Fleischer....Q As Commander-In-Chief, what was the President's reaction to television's Bill Maher, in his announcement that members of our Armed Forces who deal with missiles are cowards, while the armed terrorists who killed 6,000 unarmed are not cowards, for which Maher was briefly moved off a Washington television station?MR. FLEISCHER: I have not discussed it with the President, one. I have --Q Surely, as a --MR. FLEISCHER: I'm getting there.Q Surely as Commander, he was enraged at that, wasn't he?MR. FLEISCHER: I'm getting there, Les.Q Okay.MR. FLEISCHER: I'm aware of the press reports about what he said. I have not seen the actual transcript of the show itself. But assuming the press reports are right, it's a terrible thing to say, and it unfortunate. And that's why -- there was an earlier question about has the President said anything to people in his own party -- they're reminders to all Americans that they need to watch what they say, watch what they do. This is not a time for remarks like that; there never is......

Finishing my response to the absurd claim the U.S. Marshals are somehow close to "perfection", here is more background on the Bush connected grandfather ofthe corrupter of the US Marshals in the 1990s, Herbert JC Bryant, son of Magdalena Ohrstrom Bryant. Her father, George, after Prescott Bush called in some favors on George's behalf!

The "apple does not fall far from the tree"....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...-leader/59cfc10a-c6f3-44de-a19b-e4dcc3664cab/www.washingtonpost.com › archive › local › 1992/12/03U.S. PROBE FAULTS MARSHALS OVER TIES TO ARGUS LEADERBy Robert O'Harrow Jr.December 3, 1992A Justice Department probe has found that U.S. Marshals Service officials made "serious misjudgments" when they gave a badge and arrest authority to a wealthy Middleburg man who had formed a private Loudoun County group to provide armored vehicles to law enforcement agencies, sources said.Dec 3, 1992 - Loudoun Sheriff John R. Isom and other public officials, Bryant obtained a fleet of armored cars and vehicles, though few have ever been used ...

Not Found - The New York Times $326 Million Private Toll Road to Spur GrowthBy James R. HardcastleJuly 24, 1994...The Dulles Greenway and the five interchanges that will be built along its course will open up some 10,000 acres to development south of what has been a major area of residential growth in the Washington metropolitan area. Half this acreage is already zoned for commercial or residential development and is accessible to existing sewer and water treatment operations.The investors in the toll road are led by the local Bryant family, which is betting $68 million that it can preserve its scenic open space by channeling the growth the road will bring and achieve a return on its money at the same time....

Fifty years earlier, this was the estate Bryant's mother grew up in.:
Prescott Bush and other Ohrstrom friends used their "juice" to effect a reroute of another planned toll road, the Merritt Pkwy, to force
the state of CT to purchase an unused chunk of this estate to complete the rerouted portion of the Merritt Pkwy!
Big crowd opposes plan for condos on Mel Gibson’s former Greenwich estate - GreenwichTime

 

[Tangmo]

This is always a ludicrous claim as he won't even get away with it with the Secret Service, let alone the military and federal police.

Roger Stone believes there is an illegal coup against the President. That certainly is possible - depending how you define a coup. All the FISA court stuff by Obama/Biden was a soft coup attempt. The President now is really stepping on the toes of the defense/war industries, the top war-mongering wing of the military and the same with the NSA and CIA.

The question is where do you draw the line between a technically legal coup and an illegal coup?

Well there's the "Coup by Memorandum" as we saw in Turkey in 1996 when the military wrote to Prime Minister Erbakan to enact certain laws to curb the religious parties that were openly violating the separation of church and state, which Erbakan and his party did do however reluctantly.

Erbakan continued to fumble around in church and state, accepted the eventual military imperative to resign and was later prohibited from politics after the Constitutional Court found him guilty of church state violations. Indeed the European Court on Human Rights upheld the prohibition although Turkey is not in the EU. No troops, no tanks, no aircraft to include no helicopters, no shooting or bombing, no violence -- no nuthin.

Hence the Turkey Coup by Memorandum that is also called the "Postmodern Coup" due to its obvious peaceful transition of power in which civilians led the way supported by the armed forces who initiated and guided the whole of it yet shared a coalition with certain civilian political leaders throughout.

The Turkish military did approach a number of civilian political figures to include former presidents and prime ministers to participate in the "Postmodern Coup" conceived, organized and executed by Gen. Teoman Koman, 4-star chief of the National Gendarmerie and former head of National Intelligence. The concern was about Irtica which secularists called Islamic fundamentalism and its absolutist political extremism.

The generals were disturbed by the growing popularity of the Welfare Party, Erbakan's religiously-inspired party which had won the largest bloc in parliament for the first time in 1996. The view that irtica was a leading existential danger to the Turkish state also coincided with NATO's changing threat perceptions during that period. After the fall of the Soviet Union, "Islamic fundamentalism" was fast replacing communism as the leading global threat in the eyes of the Western military-industrial complex.

Koman and other Turkish generals, with deep ties to NATO, were strongly influenced by this new global strategic vision. "The conceptualisation of Turkey's internal and external threats was based on NATO concepts," Bulent Orakoglu, who was the head of intelligence for the Turkish police at the time of the postmodern coup, [said]. "Before 1980, our primary threat was judged to be communism, because it was a primary threat according to the US." Within a few months, the Erbakan government had effectively collapsed. Unlike the 1960, 1971 and 1980 coups, which had all involved overt military intervention, the 1997 coup was achieved without tanks or soldiers. Instead, the government was forced out through deft behind-the-scenes political manoeuvring by the generals. Koman was one of the principle masterminds.

Revisiting Turkey's last successful coup

Gen. Koman -- THE mastermind -- began his recruiting of prominent secular political figures in September 1996. Most prominently he enlisted the support of the president of the republic Suleyman Demirel. Five months later, on February 4, 1997, 20 tanks and 15 armored personnel carriers drove through the streets of Ankara in an ominous warning to the government. On February 28, the military issued a stern memorandum against the Erbakan-led coalition government. In mid June Erbakan resigned.

While most everyone expected President Demirel to accept Erbakan's successor as party leader as new prime minister, Demirel instead asked the opposition conservative party leader Mesut Yilmaz to establish the new government. Yilmaz was Gen. Koman's number two choice after his first choice said no and had reported the "postmodern coup" to Pres. Demirel who smiled and said don't worry about it.

 

[post]

Why would you oppose that? I'd like to see all mail in ballots taken control of by federal marshals.

Try, try hard, to find ANY scandal - ever - against US Marshals. Bet you can't. There should be police from NON PARTISAN DEPARTMENTS (meaning not sheriffs or city police) at every polling place and that they have constant control of ballot security.

Apologies for "beating this to death", so to speak, but long before Trump & Co. invented "the deep state" as cover for their own treasonous collaboration with Russia, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Bahrain to affect the outcome of the 2016 election and. this summer, two "peace deals" intended to put lipstick on impeached candidate Trump and indicted, accused bribery recipient, Netanyahu, the grandfather of the 1990s corrupter, Herbert JC Bryant, of the top echelon of the US Marshals and of the Loudon, VA sheriff, had the connections via Prescott Bush and other Greenwich, CT friends, to reroute for profit the designed right of way of the Merritt Pkwy to "tide him over", financially through a literal "shake down" of Connecticut state D.O.T., until those same connections could sweep aside the head of the S.E.C. in Bryant's grandfather's favor!

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Justice Denied....or merely delayed
JUSTICE DENIED...OR MERELY DELAYED?
Perjury Indictments Reopen Bryant Trial

Allegations of Corruption in the U.S. Marshals Service

Manuscript prepared for The Chief of Police magazine

By: Leo F. Scanlon

An early June indictment returned by a federal grand jury in Washington DC is calling attention to a spectacular and unresolved allegation of corruption buried in the back files of the federal court system. The indictment of Paul Barrett, an obscure Mississippi Sheriff could begin unraveling allegations of widespread financial fraud by former officials of the U.S. Marshal's Service.

Barrett was a defense witness in last October's trial of J.C. Herbert Bryant Jr., the former head of the U.S. Marshal's Foundation. In that trial, Bryant testified that while serving as president of the foundation, he discovered a pattern of misuse of USMS funds by Marshals involved with the Foundation which totalled at least $680,000 "and possibly millions of dollars." He told the court that he had reported these facts to USMS officials, Justice Department IG officials, and the Senate Judiciary Committee--and to this day there is no visible effort to investigate these allegations.

Now, Paul Barrett, a Mississippi Sheriff who was a principal witness in the trial, and who had been awarded recognition as "Lawman of the Year" by the Foundation in 1992, has been charged with a five count felony indictment which alleges perjury, witness tampering, and obstruction of justice stemming from his testimony in the case. Bryant's attorneys have filed motions which allege that there was a far more significant perjury--on the part of top Marshals officials who testified during the trial--than any committed by Barrett.

Bryant has alleged all along that his problems stem from the fact that he was caught between warring factions within the Marshal's Service, some of whom may have resented his alleged efforts to clean up the fraud and thievery which he says was rampant within the Foundation. If the indictment of Barrett is an indication that the government intends to unravel the charges and counter-charges which flew around Judge Lamberth's court room last October, there may be plenty of fireworks yet to come.
LEADS POINT TO TOP POLITICAL CIRCLES .....

Bryant's uncle, George Ohrstrom, Jr., worked for CIA in the 1950s after graduating from Princeton and serving in the USMC.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...jr-dies/f8a12b5b-5060-4a88-a3f0-200f2844daf6/

George L. Ohrstrom Jr. Dies -
Oct 9, 2005 - The New York firm, founded by his father, is one of the private equity ... Survivors include his wife, Jacqueline Ohrstrom of The Plains; his sister, Magalen O. Bryant of Middleburg; a son from his first marriage, George F. Ohrstrom of New ... a son from his second marriage, Clarke Ohrstrom of The Plains; two ...

 

[Tangmo]

Why would you oppose that? I'd like to see all mail in ballots taken control of by federal marshals.

Try, try hard, to find ANY scandal - ever - against US Marshals. Bet you can't. There should be police from NON PARTISAN DEPARTMENTS (meaning not sheriffs or city police) at every polling place and that they have constant control of ballot security.

You can be deputized first in your state.

And you should start now given you've got 50 states to get cracking on this in only a very short time.

I'd be careful though about impounding military postal ballots however. Jus sayin acourse. Yet if you don't seize military postal ballots then seizing any citizen's ballot becomes problematical whether it's a postal ballot or an in person ballot.

You should restore the damage you've done to the Postal Service besides.

 

[Tangmo]

I edited my post because I chose not to reach his level. Some people think that freedom of speech comes without personal responsibility in choosing what to say. We are approaching a point where the freedom of speech as it is exercised by some irresponsible hacks and trolls (Stone among them) will have serious consequences by inciting violence and perhaps insurrection if we have a case like Al-Gore/ Bush controversy in the 2000 elections!

Indeed and Bush won the 2000 election of the Potus by one vote, 5-4.

It's a significant factor in how we got to where we are now.

And in where we are definitely headed because while the armed forces stayed out of that one completely the time and circumstance and the global players are entirely different in this go around. Starting at the top, ie, there was no incumbent Potus then while there is an incumbent now and we know fully well what we've got. It ain't pretty or even polite.

 

[The AntiDonald]

OMG. :doh

What complete and utter idiocy. Trump's base will love it.

His base will love it while it will also help shrink his base. This is really stupid talk.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Nothing but pure crazy talk! Impossible that anything like that would happen without a federal court being involved!

Everybody take a chill you are Okay!

 

[joko104]

You can be deputized first in your state.

And you should start now given you've got 50 states to get cracking on this in only a very short time.

I'd be careful though about impounding military postal ballots however. Jus sayin acourse. Yet if you don't seize military postal ballots then seizing any citizen's ballot becomes problematical whether it's a postal ballot or an in person ballot.

You should restore the damage you've done to the Postal Service besides.

I haven't done any damage to the postal service.

If members of the military tried to block US Marshals complying with an order to impound ballots, those military personnel would find themselves under arrest. You are in the wrong country in your believe that the military has authority over civilian government. It's the other way around.

I remember my kid in the military explaining how for her foreign base the commander refused to allow their absentee ballots being sent day after day - despite growing complaints - until the day after the deadline. NO ballot of anyone on that base was counted in 2016.

 

[rocket88]

You can tell something is good when it offends all the right people.

Well it should offend any Americsn who believes in the principles the country was built upon.

Given that, I'm not surprised you approve.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Roger Stone is a legitimate insane person. Who gives a **** what he says. Trump doesn't have the bone spurs to do any of that anyway. Fred intimidated him. Ever see Fred?

 

[Rogue Valley]

This is the same Roger Stone that had his prison sentence commuted by his buddy Donald Trump.

 

[Tangmo]

I haven't done any damage to the postal service.

If members of the military tried to block US Marshals complying with an order to impound ballots, those military personnel would find themselves under arrest. You are in the wrong country in your believe that the military has authority over civilian government. It's the other way around.

I remember my kid in the military explaining how for her foreign base the commander refused to allow their absentee ballots being sent day after day - despite growing complaints - until the day after the deadline. NO ballot of anyone on that base was counted in 2016.

The armed forces would never act to destroy democracy yet they would definitely act to restore it.

As president of the Constitutional Convention Washington successfully proposed a military oath to the Constitution. This is a radical break with history when troops pledged loyalty and obedience to their commander. Indeed, when Washington commanded the Continental Army the oath Washington himself wrote was to be loyal to the Continental Congress and to obey the Continental Congress, to include himself of course, as he reported to the Congress.

One of Washington's motives in presenting a military oath at the Convention was to ease Madison's concerns that a tyrant ruler could gain power. Washington established the oath to the Constitution as the final bulwark against a tyrant ruler gaining power. Washington also noted that the oath to the Constitution was an oath to "We the People," and not to any single person or individual government official.

Indeed, in respect of Washington the first session of the first Congress enacted as the first law of the United States the military oath to the Constitution. Which takes us full cycle to the fact the armed forces would never act to destroy democracy yet they would act to restore a democracy destroyed by a tyrant ruler who has gained power and position.

I advise you because you are 7th grade civics class oblivious about what's likely to occur as the last resort should the period November 3rd to January 20th require it. Given the recent revelations about Trump's garbage mouth the armed forces haven't any reason to respect him. So rest assured however it would be a civil-military collective action and in no way only a military action singularly or alone. The interest at stake is democracy, not the military usurping civilian authority. The military would act in a coalition led by civilians to restore democracy, peace, the rule of law; order and respect. An initial measure of normalcy.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

The armed forces would never act to destroy democracy yet they would definitely act to restore it.

As president of the Constitutional Convention Washington successfully proposed a military oath to the Constitution. This is a radical break with history when troops pledged loyalty and obedience to their commander. Indeed, when Washington commanded the Continental Army the oath Washington himself wrote was to be loyal to the Continental Congress and to obey the Continental Congress, to include himself of course, as he reported to the Congress.

One of Washington's motives in presenting a military oath at the Convention was to ease Madison's concerns that a tyrant ruler could gain power. Washington established the oath to the Constitution as the final bulwark against a tyrant ruler gaining power. Washington also noted that the oath to the Constitution was an oath to "We the People," and not to any single person or individual government official.

Indeed, in respect of Washington the first session of the first Congress enacted as the first law of the United States the military oath to the Constitution. Which takes us full cycle to the fact the armed forces would never act to destroy democracy yet they would act to restore a democracy destroyed by a tyrant ruler who has gained power and position.

I advise you because you are 7th grade civics class oblivious about what's likely to occur as the last resort should the period November 3rd to January 20th require it. Given the recent revelations about Trump's garbage mouth the armed forces haven't any reason to respect him. So rest assured however it would be a civil-military collective action and in no way only a military action singularly or alone. The interest at stake is democracy, not the military usurping civilian authority. The military would act in a coalition led by civilians to restore democracy, peace, the rule of law; order and respect. An initial measure of normalcy.

Trump is just going to lose and whine about it. That’s it.

 

[Tangmo]

Trump is just going to lose and whine about it. That’s it.

Gee I never looked at it in that way.

So thanks because it's so comforting to believe.

Because since Reagan went bust on the Republicans-Conservatives in fundamentally changing America these guys have only become more desperate. So now that they have Trump and he's begun his work Making America Russia Instead they're not about to lose that.

The PutinTrumpRowers are not about democracy and haven't ever been about democracy to include never accepting the Constitution, its checks and balances, three equal branches of government, rule of law and so on. They're going to fight to keep what they have and to continue in their malign works.

Whatever it takes.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Gee I never looked at it in that way.

So thanks because it's so comforting to believe.

Because since Reagan went bust on the Republicans-Conservatives in fundamentally changing America these guys have only become more desperate. So now that they have Trump and he's begun his work Making America Russia Instead they're not about to lose that.

The PutinTrumpRowers are not about democracy and haven't ever been about democracy to include never accepting the Constitution, its checks and balances, three equal branches of government, rule of law and so on. They're going to fight to keep what they have and to continue in their malign works.

Whatever it takes.

I don’t agree. Trump’s entire history is that of a loser and coward. Trump flees. Okay, he totters, but still. He tends to move int he opposite direction of a fight.

 

[MTAtech]

The results will only be legitimate if the “real winner” — Trump — takes office, regardless of what the votes say,

To safeguard Trump’s position, Stone called for federal authorities to seize ballots in Nevada, for FBI agents to physically block certain voters from casting their ballots, and for Trump to use his powers for widespread arrests to solidify his power, Media Matters first reported.Stone demanded that “the ballots in Nevada on election night should be seized by federal marshals” and not counted, claiming with absolutely no evidence that “they are completely corrupted.”

Under martial law and the Insurrection Act, Trump will have “the authority” to arrest Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, Apple CEO Tim Cook, “the Clintons” and “anybody else who can be proven to be involved in illegal activity,” Stone said. He also called for the immediate arrest of former defense secretary James Mattis for “sedition,” apparently because he feared Trump was unfit for office, according to Washington Post journalist’s to Bob Woodward’s upcoming book, “Rage.”

In addition, Stone warned, journalist also risk arrest. “If the Daily Beast is involved in provably seditious ... acts” in a new Trump future, their “entire staff can be taken into custody and their office can be shut down.” “They want to play war, this is war,” he added.

While such off-the-rail suggestions could easily be shrugged off from most, Stone is a high-profile friend of the president and has his ear, critics fear. Harvard law professor and Constitutional expert Laurence Tribe warned that Stone’s “advocacy of totalitarian takeover by Trump has to be taken seriously.”

A shining example of his and his follower's lack of conviction in democratic principles. They are only interested in power. He advocates violating the First, Fourth and Fifth Amendments -- as well as Article II.

If anyone had any doubts of what's on the Trump cult's minds, this is it, dicatorship.

 

[MTAtech]

I don’t agree. Trump’s entire history is that of a loser and coward. Trump flees. Okay, he totters, but still. He tends to move int he opposite direction of a fight.

He claims he doesn't settle lawsuits, until he settles lawsuits.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

He claims he doesn't settle lawsuits, until he settles lawsuits.

He ran from a *virus* and let 200k Americans die.

President Ramp ain’t putting up any fight. HE’s gonna go to Mar a lago and soak the soakers there for all the money he’s gonna give up being potus.

 

[AmNat]

I think you need to be clear whether you're trolling or you really like the idea of Trump seizing power by force and the US becoming a dictatorship.

I would fully support a Trumptatorship. I've said this many times.

Hence the Turkey Coup by Memorandum that is also called the "Postmodern Coup" due to its obvious peaceful transition of power in which civilians led the way supported by the armed forces who initiated and guided the whole of it yet shared a coalition with certain civilian political leaders throughout.

You must really hate it now that your Kemalists are sitting in prison . . . where they belong.

 

[BlueTex]