Aren't we all connected in todays global world? That's what you libs keep telling us.
Yes, that is why I rejoice with my brothers in Egypt in their stand against a dictator.
Yes, that is why I rejoice with my brothers in Egypt in their stand against a dictator.
So do the worlds communists, and socialists.....Good times.
j-mac
I don't get the feeling that catawba would see being on the same side as socialists a problem. Just sayin'.
Bring it up in a thread about Iraq and I will discuss that. In the meantime, you have anything on-topic to add to the discussion?
Are you for the freedom the Egyptians are demanding, or not?
This is an Egyptian revolution, it has nothing to do with the fears of Americans.
I don't get the feeling that catawba would see being on the same side as socialists a problem. Just sayin'.
I've never thought of democracy as a socialist concept.
I'm not as concerned as some that Egypt will turn into a radical Islamic theocracy. The vast majority of the populace are quite secular, and wouldn't be okay with that. As we've seen, when the vast majority of Egyptians are not okay with something, they have ways of expressing themselves in person.
I'm am concerned about tomorrow. I want these people to have more freedom and a real democracy. The country has been under Martial Law for 30 years, and they've been absolutely terrorized by the police and the plain-clothed equivalent of our FBI. There's no way I can't hope that they achieve what they've fought so hard for the past 18 days. Over 300 dead. That's a pretty hefty sacrifice. Clearly these people are willing to die for their freedom. Tomorrow I hope it doesn't come to that.
I'm not as concerned as some that Egypt will turn into a radical Islamic theocracy. The vast majority of the populace are quite secular, and wouldn't be okay with that. As we've seen, when the vast majority of Egyptians are not okay with something, they have ways of expressing themselves in person.
I'm am concerned about tomorrow. I want these people to have more freedom and a real democracy. The country has been under Martial Law for 30 years, and they've been absolutely terrorized by the police and the plain-clothed equivalent of our FBI. There's no way I can't hope that they achieve what they've fought so hard for the past 18 days. Over 300 dead. That's a pretty hefty sacrifice. Clearly these people are willing to die for their freedom. Tomorrow I hope it doesn't come to that.
There has yet been a, "vast majority", of Egyptians express anything. We've only seen about 1% show up to any given protest.
Poll: No constituency for Muslim Brotherhood takeover in Egypt
"This is not an Islamic uprising. The Muslim Brotherhood is "approved" by just 15%, and its leaders get barely 1% in a presidential straw vote.
Asked to pick national priorities, just 12% choose shariah over national power, democracy, or economic development. Asked to explain the uprising, economic conditions, corruption, and unemployment (30‐40% each) far outpace "regime not Islamic enough" (7%).
Surprisingly, asked two different ways about the peace treaty with Israel, more support it (37%) than oppose it (22%). Only 18% approve of either Hamas or Iran. And a mere 5% say the uprising occurred because the regime is "too pro-Israel."
That's all fine and good, providing that we're going to see an actual democracy in Egypt.
What Actual Democracy is to you, may not be an Actual Democracy to someone else...
There's more kinds of democracy then the "American, Freedom and Liberties, Jesus USA #1" kind of democracy you subscribe to.
If there aren't free, fair and non-rigged elections, then there is no democracy.
That's all fine and good, providing that we're going to see an actual democracy in Egypt.
If there aren't free, fair and non-rigged elections, then there is no democracy.
**** dude, it takes a hell of a lot more than free and fair elections to form a functioning democracy.
But it would be a good start if no political parties are excluded from running for office, and that includes the Muslim Brotherhood.
If the only thing the MB does is run for office, you're right. If the MB ends up running the whole show, then there won't be democracy.
Read the article I posted. Fear of the MB is a poor excuse for not supporting the Egyptian awakening and helping them transition to a real democracy, if we can be allowed to play a role. The Danish PM has the right idea.
From my perspective, the way the Iranian protesters lost the ring in '79, is that the only ones who were armed were the Islamists. The murdered the **** out of the opposition. It is time for the 2nd Amendment to be exported and the secular youth should arm themselves to protect their freedom.
The Egyptian military issued a communiqué pledging to carry out a variety of constitutional reforms in a statement notable for its commanding tone. The military’s statement alludes to the delegation of power to Vice President Omar Suleiman and it suggests that the military will supervise implementation of the reforms.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/12/world/middleeast/12egypt.html
Step 1 accomplished: Mubarak just stepped down.
Step 2: ???
Step 3: PROFIT!
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