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Fascinating.
Wrong (as usual), but fascinating nevertheless.
Politicians generally use poll results to see which issues would result in the most votes without causing them to lose votes of those who provide the most votes on another issue. Elections are simply a numbers game in a Representative form of Democracy. Big city issues usually dominate the issues, and are mostly spending issues.They just use it as a wedge issue for political purposes. That is true--they really don't care about abortion, per se, they just want to have use it as a political hammer to appeal to the evangelical fundie Christians. I would be willing to bet that a good number of men politicians and men chatters on this forum and Republican men elsewhere just use it as another reason to vent their fake outrage, and we would probably be surprised at how many of them even paid for an abortion for a woman of their sexual acquaintance. I'm talking Trump here, for instance.
Fact is that abortion should indeed be up to the woman without the interference of men politicians in the various red states passing more and more extreme anti-abortion bills to see if they can outdo one another. Morally, ethically, they really don't care. It's just all about POLITICAL POWER to them, nothing else.
We already know full well your opinions on the subject so starting yet another thread to regurgitate them without even so much as an articulated point for why you're sharing them with us - yet again - is just so much spam.Not wrong at all. I don’t believe for a moment that all of those Republican men politicians are adamantly against abortion, per se. It’s all political. They know that they can appeal to the anti-abortion extremist fundie Christians, so they compete with one another to do so. Same with the right wing men chatters in this forum.
We already know full well your opinions on the subject so starting yet another thread to regurgitate them without even so much as an articulated point for why you're sharing them with us - yet again - is just so much spam.
Your intent is painfully obvious, which isn't to propound or generate any new information so as to further some discussion or debate, but instead to throw out more emotional bile, pandering to your other friends here who are into the same puerile games as you, that of bashing Republicans, conservatives, and Christians - or anyone remotely right of you who hold differing opinions / beliefs than yours.
Tell me I'm wrong - articulate the point of this thread. Articulate it as being something other than the involuntary spewing of your opinion for the purpose outlined above.
smhAd hom.
"The purpose of this thread is to demonstrate how abortion is political wedge issue for those on the right."
"This thread's purpose is to demonstrate how abortion is just a vehicle in which they can vent their faux outrage - faux because they really don't care; faux because they've all paid for abortions themselves for their women."
"The purpose of this thread is to demonstrate how morally and ethically they do not care, how this is just an issue giving them more political power."
"This thread's purpose is to demonstrate how abortion should be up to the woman, not politicians."
"The purpose of this thread is to demonstrate how abortion is just a political hammer to appeal to evangelical, fundamentalist Christians."
All of them - first, because they're just opinions and second, because you haven't demonstrated - or provided warrant for why I should alter my beliefs to agree with any of them.So which of these do you disagree with and why?
All of them - first, because they're just opinions and second, because you haven't demonstrated - or provided warrant for why I should alter my beliefs to agree with any of them.
Geez... here we go, down the rabbit hole.What are your beliefs?
Geez... here we go, down the rabbit hole.
Articulate a point; provide some warrant for why we should believe it, and then get back to me. We'll see if your warrant holds water or not.
Abortion is a constitutional right.All of them - first, because they're just opinions and second, because you haven't demonstrated - or provided warrant for why I should alter my beliefs to agree with any of them.
Abortion is a constitutional right.
That's not opinion
Actually it is opinion. The opinion of a previous Supreme Court, but always highly controversial.
The Constitution does not specifically mention abortion. The SCOTUS opinion that made it a constitutional right was based on an *implied* right to medical privacy.
That remains controversial and there is some chance it could be overturned.
What was my error?I'm not advocating a position, btw, just correcting an error. SCOTUS decisions are not easily changed but they're not necessarily eternal either.
They just use it as a wedge issue for political purposes. That is true--they really don't care about abortion, per se, they just want to have use it as a political hammer to appeal to the evangelical fundie Christians. I would be willing to bet that a good number of men politicians and men chatters on this forum and Republican men elsewhere just use it as another reason to vent their fake outrage, and we would probably be surprised at how many of them even paid for an abortion for a woman of their sexual acquaintance. I'm talking Trump here, for instance.
Fact is that abortion should indeed be up to the woman without the interference of men politicians in the various red states passing more and more extreme anti-abortion bills to see if they can outdo one another. Morally, ethically, they really don't care. It's just all about POLITICAL POWER to them, nothing else.
Lol. Well I did hear he is a pretty nice guy outside of MASH.Using Frank Burns as an avatar, for starters.
Lol. Well I did hear he is a pretty nice guy outside of MASH.
You must prefer Emerson Winchester the third?
I'm as against abortion as anyone here and I've never paid for an abortion. For that matter no woman I know has to my knowledge ever gotten an abortion. So though you are "willing to bet" you are in fact..wrong.They just use it as a wedge issue for political purposes. That is true--they really don't care about abortion, per se, they just want to have use it as a political hammer to appeal to the evangelical fundie Christians. I would be willing to bet that a good number of men politicians and men chatters on this forum and Republican men elsewhere just use it as another reason to vent their fake outrage, and we would probably be surprised at how many of them even paid for an abortion for a woman of their sexual acquaintance. I'm talking Trump here, for instance.
My point has always been obvious and straightforward - that you articulate yours (this being a "debate" site, after all); because let me rephrase it: if you can't articulate your point - you don't have one.So let me get this straight. According to you, I have to “articulate points”, but when is ask you to do so, you don’t. Seems like a double-standard to me.
See post #12.
tRump: "Pro life? I can be pro life. What's pro life?"Fascinating.
Wrong (as usual), but fascinating nevertheless.
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