disneydude
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jennyb said:geeky WOW did you really write that??? you should go live in north korea...man, you are wild girl!!!! and i dont mean in a good way. im saying people like you we dont need in this country.....no rights??? your kidding... right?
It was obvious.Geekybrunette said:Sarcasm :rofl:
mpg said:Now the right-wingers saying seems to be "Take my liberty, just don't kill me!"."
Are you joking? I don't know the exact #s, but conservatives are obviously far more willing to sacrifice their lives in the defense of freedom than liberals are. Do you think that the military is a bunch of liberals? Liberals "loathe" the military.
Geekybrunette said:Maybe because those liberals view the military as fighting for a cause they consider unjust. If the military fought towards far more liberal ideals, would there be more conservatives or more liberals willing to fight?
And which site are you claiming is "my site?" Furthermore, I could careless what is semetic or anti-semetic. It's not my dance. I'm not going to condemn Israel as a nation, nor am I going to defend them either. They are just as guilty as any terrorist when you look at some of their acts of aggression. Just because they suffered atrocities in WWII does not give them a blank check to do the same to other cultures.Originally posted by jennyb
Billo your site? the site you sited is extremely anti-semetic. that site doesnt like anyone who is it for?
Maybe Israeli citizens and Palestinian citizens ought to inter-mingle, marry each other, and start a new race of people that is a combination of both cultures. We could call them............. "Muslews!"
disneydude said:I am sooooo tired of the right-wing hypocrites that claim to be "patriotic" and "supportive of the troops".
True....they are supportive and quick to send off others to shed their blood fighting their presidents war, but probably not so quick to do it themselves.
There was a time in this country when the saying went:
"Give me liberty or give me death"
Now the right-wingers saying seems to be "Take my liberty, just don't kill me!".
I fail to understand how you can claim to be supportive of the troops when you support efforts by the administration to take away freedoms and liberties.
to take away reproductive freedoms,
putting less liberty in the hands of the people and more in the hands of the government,
During this month of July in recognition of our Independence and Freedom I think its important that we recognize what a great country this has been, but also what the right-wing and the current administration is trying to do to this country.
Patriotism is not a concept in name only. It doesn't mean passing laws to protect a piece of fabric. It means standing up and supporting the principles and the freedoms that this country is built on, not cowardly feigning your "support" for the troops while gladly handing over your liberty.
jennyb said:ewwww alec, excellent come back......:mrgreen: i agree....
if anyone is that passionate about the war they absolutely should be there... there are guys and gals who also go military for education money ... stinger..."once we decide to go to war, YOU support our effort until win or surrender"""" wow , gad you arent the head of this country,, and also glad you werent ny dad......scary stuff. is there an 'or else' at the end of that statement? sounds like there is. and if so, what is the or else?
Sir_Alec said:I don't care if people join the military to be a patriot. I just get pissed off when people who could join the military and support the war 100% act like it's impossible to fight for their cause, as opposed to letting some poor kid who joined the army to support his family do it.
Take a look at Flint, Michigan about 30 miles from my house. The highest reason for recruitment there is to make money and this is because the town is sooooo freakinnnnnn poooorrrrrrr after the car plants shut down and the factory owners took work elsewhere.
If everyone out there who supported the war as passionatly as some of you guys do they should all join the military if they can, and get these guys who don't want to sacrafice themselves for a cause they don't support out.
Don't give me that crap about not fighting. If you support the war and you can fight you have no excuse for not going over and serving with the people you say you're willing to let die.
Stinger said:How about those who could support their familty but still decide to protect you and the country from those who would kill you?
They can move just as easily as join the military.
And everyone who doesn't should voluteer to become hostages and victems of those who want to kill us. When do you leave?
So again let's just let the mil9itary decide when and where we fight, using your logic.
disneydude said:I am sooooo tired of the right-wing hypocrites that claim to be "patriotic" and "supportive of the troops".
True....they are supportive and quick to send off others to shed their blood fighting their presidents war, but probably not so quick to do it themselves.
There was a time in this country when the saying went:
"Give me liberty or give me death"
Now the right-wingers saying seems to be "Take my liberty, just don't kill me!".
I fail to understand how you can claim to be supportive of the troops when you support efforts by the administration to take away freedoms and liberties.
People who support this administration's ill guided "patriot" act, domestic spying, activist court officer's seeking to take away reproductive freedoms, putting less liberty in the hands of the people and more in the hands of the government, supporting big business at the expense of the workers, etc etc etc, spit on the grave of the many who died fighting for our freedom and is a slap in the face to our military today.
During this month of July in recognition of our Independence and Freedom I think its important that we recognize what a great country this has been, but also what the right-wing and the current administration is trying to do to this country.
Patriotism is not a concept in name only. It doesn't mean passing laws to protect a piece of fabric. It means standing up and supporting the principles and the freedoms that this country is built on, not cowardly feigning your "support" for the troops while gladly handing over your liberty.
Lachean said:You cant fight for pacifism, and a war based on health care seems counter productive. Liberals arent a war-like people. They make America look human when we're war mongering.
But we also need the war-like conservatives when its time to put up or shut up. Sometimes we cant be seen as soft. Sometimes we have to be seen as soft even when we have a gun at your head. Libs and cons are yins and yangs.
Each side may consider the other un-patriotic or foolish, but when both sides agree on something the American patriots can be a mighty force.
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