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geez , i''l vote them out myself if i see this happening. most conserv types don't actually think that much like an authoritarian about things.Lets say the right-wing wins the culture war, the political war, and the next ~50 years are shaped by the modern conservative movement. All elements of 'socialism' are removed from government except for the military (no social security, medicare, no safety net), corporations gain far control, nationalism ascends both in America and globally, legal abortion is abolished, homosexuality is largely outlawed, the transgender community recedes into the shadows. Christianity becomes the state religion. America's borders are closed to most immigrants. Since corporations have control, and there are no real regulations, green energy is virtually non-existent in the West. Vaccines are largely abolished and/or all viruses are a treated through herd immunity. This is, by all accounts, a right-wing paradise.
What is the outlook for humanity?
Note: For the purpose of this discussion, I've left out the bombastic elements of the right-wing agenda, and referenced only the mainstream ones.
No conservative can possibly respond to this because it's fatally flawed.Lets say the right-wing wins the culture war, the political war, and the next ~50 years are shaped by the modern conservative movement. All elements of 'socialism' are removed from government except for the military (no social security, medicare, no safety net), corporations gain far control, nationalism ascends both in America and globally, legal abortion is abolished, homosexuality is largely outlawed, the transgender community recedes into the shadows. Christianity becomes the state religion. America's borders are closed to most immigrants. Since corporations have control, and there are no real regulations, green energy is virtually non-existent in the West. Vaccines are largely abolished and/or all viruses are a treated through herd immunity. This is, by all accounts, a right-wing paradise.
What is the outlook for humanity?
Note: For the purpose of this discussion, I've left out the bombastic elements of the right-wing agenda, and referenced only the mainstream ones.
No conservative can possibly respond to this because it's fatally flawed.
Those policies don't represent mainstream conservatives.
Most of those policies are taken from the far, outside, extreme right fringe if they exist at all... Those are the very people that have no political clout and aren't given a seat at the table.
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Did you ever read H.G. Wells "Time Machine"?Lets say the right-wing wins the culture war, the political war, and the next ~50 years are shaped by the modern conservative movement. All elements of 'socialism' are removed from government except for the military (no social security, medicare, no safety net), corporations gain far control, nationalism ascends both in America and globally, legal abortion is abolished, homosexuality is largely outlawed, the transgender community recedes into the shadows. Christianity becomes the state religion. America's borders are closed to most immigrants. Since corporations have control, and there are no real regulations, green energy is virtually non-existent in the West. Vaccines are largely abolished and/or all viruses are a treated through herd immunity. This is, by all accounts, a right-wing paradise.
What is the outlook for humanity?
Note: For the purpose of this discussion, I've left out the bombastic elements of the right-wing agenda, and referenced only the mainstream ones.
Probably we're all gonna die.Lets say the right-wing wins the culture war, the political war, and the next ~50 years are shaped by the modern conservative movement. All elements of 'socialism' are removed from government except for the military (no social security, medicare, no safety net), corporations gain far control, nationalism ascends both in America and globally, legal abortion is abolished, homosexuality is largely outlawed, the transgender community recedes into the shadows. Christianity becomes the state religion. America's borders are closed to most immigrants. Since corporations have control, and there are no real regulations, green energy is virtually non-existent in the West. Vaccines are largely abolished and/or all viruses are a treated through herd immunity. This is, by all accounts, a right-wing paradise.
What is the outlook for humanity?
Note: For the purpose of this discussion, I've left out the bombastic elements of the right-wing agenda, and referenced only the mainstream ones.
The cited fictional policies are from the leftists nightmare and are unlikely to ever happen in anything other than a leftists nightmare, so not reality.No conservative can possibly respond to this because it's fatally flawed.
Those policies don't represent mainstream conservatives.
Most of those policies are taken from the far, outside, extreme right fringe if they exist at all... Those are the very people that have no political clout and aren't given a seat at the table.
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Anytime the leftists don't get what they want it is always 'we're all gonna die', climate change catastrophe appearing to be the most frequently sighted consequence.Probably we're all gonna die.
Maybe there will be peace, prosperity and global love.
Might be something in between.
Nah, we all gonna die.
All the best crises involve all of us dying and only the best crises get people to vote for you.Anytime the leftists don't get what they want it is always 'we're all gonna die', climate change catastrophe appearing to be the most frequently sighted consequence.
All those things on that list and more have been discussed by conservatives past and present. It sounds pretty bad when all lumped together. But give them a few cycles in a row with a majority SC and watch what happens. It's already started.No conservative can possibly respond to this because it's fatally flawed.
Those policies don't represent mainstream conservatives.
Most of those policies are taken from the far, outside, extreme right fringe if they exist at all... Those are the very people that have no political clout and aren't given a seat at the table.
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The only one he stated that I believe could possibly become reality, was "America's borders are closed to most immigrants".The cited fictional policies are from the leftists nightmare and are unlikely to ever happen in anything other than a leftists nightmare, so not reality.
So you have written here that you don't have a clue about the Conservative agenda. Your description is by all accounts, bull.Lets say the right-wing wins the culture war, the political war, and the next ~50 years are shaped by the modern conservative movement. All elements of 'socialism' are removed from government except for the military (no social security, medicare, no safety net), corporations gain far control, nationalism ascends both in America and globally, legal abortion is abolished, homosexuality is largely outlawed, the transgender community recedes into the shadows. Christianity becomes the state religion. America's borders are closed to most immigrants. Since corporations have control, and there are no real regulations, green energy is virtually non-existent in the West. Vaccines are largely abolished and/or all viruses are a treated through herd immunity. This is, by all accounts, a right-wing paradise.
What is the outlook for humanity?
Note: For the purpose of this discussion, I've left out the bombastic elements of the right-wing agenda, and referenced only the mainstream ones.
You are right-near term. In the future, we will need to develop a functional replacement. That's awesome.So our future is fossil fuels. Sounds awesome.
There isn't an issue on either side that hasn't had extreme proposals suggested.All those things on that list and more have been discussed by conservatives past and present. It sounds pretty bad when all lumped together. But give them a few cycles in a row with a majority SC and watch what happens. It's already started.
Yup. 'Never Let A Crisis Go To Waste' (for gaining political advantage).All the best crises involve all of us dying and only the best crises get people to vote for you.
Agreed. US immigration should be focused on merit, and nearly merit alone, much different than the open borders which Biden, more so the radicals in his administration, have implemented.The only one he stated that I believe could possibly become reality, was "America's borders are closed to most immigrants".
I don't think that it's beyond the realm of possibility that a time might come where restricting people from migrating here would be a logical step to take. What I don't understand is how anyone could think that the people of the world have a right to migrate here, and we have some global obligation to keep our doors open.
No conservative can possibly respond to this because it's fatally flawed.
Those policies don't represent mainstream conservatives.
Most of those policies are taken from the far, outside, extreme right fringe if they exist at all... Those are the very people that have no political clout and aren't given a seat at the table.
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It does seem the Republican Party has been highjacked by the most fringe extremist elements.All of this is 100% mainstream conservatism, and I challenge you to point to an item that isn't.
There isn't an issue on either side that hasn't had extreme proposals suggested.
Basically, of all the things he listed, these are the ones I feel need addressing... Anything I don't list I completely dismiss as BS, or are speculative on his part based on what he listed.:
Medicare may be eliminated, but there will be something to replace it.
Social Security may not exist in it's current form and name, but there will be a retirement safety net of some sort.
Nationalism is possible, and I would hope it did take root. There's nothing wrong with people wanting to put America and our people first, or becoming less dependent on other nations.
The Border could be closed to most people wanting to migrate here, and there could be a number of reasons for that to occur.
I'm frankly fed up with it from them, the same way I'm fed up with the baseless accusations of being a Nazi, before that was over used.
Then we look like places similar to Iran and Afghanistan, but with more money. At first.
I think conservatives simply want the culture war to be over without the culture being annihilated completely.Lets say the right-wing wins the culture war, the political war, and the next ~50 years are shaped by the modern conservative movement. All elements of 'socialism' are removed from government except for the military (no social security, medicare, no safety net), corporations gain far control, nationalism ascends both in America and globally, legal abortion is abolished, homosexuality is largely outlawed, the transgender community recedes into the shadows. Christianity becomes the state religion. America's borders are closed to most immigrants. Since corporations have control, and there are no real regulations, green energy is virtually non-existent in the West. Vaccines are largely abolished and/or all viruses are a treated through herd immunity. This is, by all accounts, a right-wing paradise.
What is the outlook for humanity?
Note: For the purpose of this discussion, I've left out the bombastic elements of the right-wing agenda, and referenced only the mainstream ones.
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