Right-Wing Conservatives Win: Then What?

[Dans La Lune]

My point is anything the government creates and manages is destined to become a boondoggle, and if our society was smart they wouldn't allow them to create jack shit in the future.

And the alternative to government is...? I can't think of anything except pure corporate rule (still a government) or feudalism. Which poison are you picking?

 

[poweRob]

Probably we're all gonna die.

Maybe there will be peace, prosperity and global love.

Might be something in between.

Nah, we all gonna die.

Have you ever dropped into a thread and your first post wasn't the same exact sarcastic shtick or is that all you have?

 

[Lutherf]

Have you ever dropped into a thread and your first post wasn't the same exact sarcastic shtick or is that all you have?

Sure! However, when a schticky thread is I jump right in with both feet. Thanks for noticing!

 

[Hamish Howl]

Most of those policies are taken from the far, outside, extreme right fringe if they exist at all... Those are the very people that have no political clout and aren't given a seat at the table.

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By which you mean Marsha Blackburn.

 

[iguanaman]

The left wants to take away people's rights. They want to take away the right to own fire arms. They want to make hate speech laws taking away the first amendment.

You are far more naive to think that the left wants to protect your rights they engage in equally or if not more Dehumanizing as the right.

The right pretends to want rights protected when actually it is only their 'rights" that matter . You want the "right" to spread lies and disinformation (You call them "opinions") protected while you remove books from libraries, remove voting rights protections and infringe on a women's right to control her body. There is no telling what rights you would take away if you had the power. I shudder to think about it.

 

[CLAX1911]

You said culture wars, which includes things like abortion, LGBTQ, women's rights, civil rights, racial equality. Which part of that do you want annihilated?

No you said culture war. Things like LGBT Ryan's abortion women's rights civil rights and racial equality were already won half a century ago.

So you are fighting against windmills.

Oh you're lying to make your annihilation of the culture seem legitimate.

I know that something like 100% of right-wing accusations are actually projection.

This is typical leftist narcissism one of the reasons why you think a culture war that was ended years ago is still on

You sure you want to go there? QAnon and related conspiracies comes from 4Chan, a part of the interwebs that is notorious for pedo-surfers.

Am I sure I want to go where? Do some conspiracy you have to rely on because you don't have an argument to make whatever straw man tell us you want it won't make you right.

 

[CLAX1911]

The right pretends to want rights protected when actually it is only their 'rights" that matter .

This isn't meaningless platitude.

You want the "right" to spread lies and disinformation (You call them "opinions") protected while you remove books from libraries, remove voting rights protections and infringe on a women's right to control her body. There is no telling what rights you would take away if you had the power. I shudder to think about it.

You're describing the left perfectly.

Maybe you need the right to be a boogie man so that you can feel Noble.

 

[CLAX1911]

Meanwhile the right is burning books, banning history in schools, criminalizing librarians, banning healthcare for women, and doing their level best to prevent the LGBTQ from actually participating in society.

No it's actually the left doing all of those things.

As a progressive

Regressive.

, I think you should be left alone

No you don't. You want me to disappear so the worst thing I can do to you is speak up.

to wallow in your miserable existence. I don't want to take your rights. However, regarding guns -- your rights stop where YOU end. Having a modicum of regulations on firearms is literally in the 2nd Amendment. Learn to read.

You don't think there's a single regulation on a firearm in the United States?

It's ironic that you tell me to learn to read

 

[Dans La Lune]

No you said culture war. Things like LGBT Ryan's abortion women's rights civil rights and racial equality were already won half a century ago.

Oh look, someone who is totally unaware (but not really *wink*) of what is going on in his own movement.

 

[Dans La Lune]

No it's actually the left doing all of those things.

Except its actually the right-wing. 'I'm rubber and you're glue', totally ignoring reality, isn't really a strong debating tactic.

Why book banning is back

The fight over books in schools is part of a much bigger struggle, revealing where conservatism is today.

www.vox.com

https://www.idahostatesman.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/article259077398.html

Arizona Legislature approves 15-week abortion ban

The Arizona Legislature has approved a ban on abortion after 15 weeks. The House approved the measure Thursday, a month after the Senate gave its OK.

apnews.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/23/anti-transgender-laws-race/

 

[CLAX1911]

Oh look, someone who is totally unaware (but not really *wink*) of what is going on in his own movement.

The irony is palpable.

 

[CLAX1911]

Except its actually the right-wing. 'I'm rubber and you're glue', totally ignoring reality, isn't really a strong debating tactic.

Why book banning is back

The fight over books in schools is part of a much bigger struggle, revealing where conservatism is today.

www.vox.com

https://www.idahostatesman.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/article259077398.html

Arizona Legislature approves 15-week abortion ban

The Arizona Legislature has approved a ban on abortion after 15 weeks. The House approved the measure Thursday, a month after the Senate gave its OK.

apnews.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/23/anti-transgender-laws-race/

Wow... Four whole links. One from a propaganda site, one from an opinion blog.

Also transgender laws aren't about rights. Compelling association and speech from people regarding trans people is one of the left wing anti rights issues.

Look at Florida, the left is so desperate to groom kids and lie about it they are attacking something they imagined.

 

[Dans La Lune]

Wow... Four whole links. One from a propaganda site, one from an opinion blog.

I could have posted a hundred, including photos of conservatives literally burning books.

Also transgender laws aren't about rights. Compelling association and speech from people regarding trans people is one of the left wing anti rights issues.

Who is compelling association and speech? Have you even read the bills?

Look at Florida, the left is so desperate to groom kids and lie about it they are attacking something they imagined.

Groom kids for what?

 

[Dans La Lune]

The irony is palpable.

Do you know what that word even means? Honest question.

 

[CLAX1911]

Do you know what that word even means? Honest question.

Do you?

 

[CLAX1911]

I could have posted a hundred, including photos of conservatives literally burning books.

You could have posted hundreds of propaganda site links No doubt they are a dime a dozen. That's why they're all broke.

Who is compelling association and speech? Have you even read the bills?

The left is. They're trying to ram this trans fat down everyone's throat without giving a crap who it hurts particularly the children didn't want to pray on and we're talking about kindergarteners.

This is why I said they don't want to have a war of culture they want to annihilate it.

Groom kids for what?

Sexual identities.

 

[Hamish Howl]

At this point the left is trying to argue for legitimacy of pedophilia.

 

[jcgriff2]

Lets say the right-wing wins the culture war, the political war, and the next ~50 years are shaped by the modern conservative movement. All elements of 'socialism' are removed from government except for the military (no social security, medicare, no safety net), corporations gain far control, nationalism ascends both in America and globally, legal abortion is abolished, homosexuality is largely outlawed, the transgender community recedes into the shadows. Christianity becomes the state religion. America's borders are closed to most immigrants. Since corporations have control, and there are no real regulations, green energy is virtually non-existent in the West. Vaccines are largely abolished and/or all viruses are a treated through herd immunity. This is, by all accounts, a right-wing paradise.

What is the outlook for humanity?

Note: For the purpose of this discussion, I've left out the bombastic elements of the right-wing agenda, and referenced only the mainstream ones.

I certainly don't want a forever Republican government. We take turns but without bashing each other into the ground.

For democrats, it's their way or the highway. $100 Trillion Green New Deal and so on. Why the rush? The world will not end in 2030 - it's a farce.

And all of this electrification - you're going to electrocute half of America!

Slow it down a few notches.

 

[iguanaman]

You could have posted hundreds of propaganda site links No doubt they are a dime a dozen. That's why they're all broke.

The left is. They're trying to ram this trans fat down everyone's throat without giving a crap who it hurts particularly the children didn't want to pray on and we're talking about kindergarteners.

This is why I said they don't want to have a war of culture they want to annihilate it.

Sexual identities.

LOL Yes the right knows what "culture" is...

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[Grim17]

It only took one post to get you from "Medicare may be eliminated, but there will be something to replace it" to 'eliminate it and don't allow the government to create jack shit to replace it'? You guys used to try slightly harder to hide the agenda.

That was my opinion of government run programs and I stand by it...

But you know as well as I do that once an entitlement program is created and implemented by the government, people become dependent on it, making it political suicide for anyone in D.C. who votes to defund it. That makes eliminating Medicare, along with other entitlements like welfare and food stamps, totally impossible. So the only option would be to reform Medicare or replace it with something else.

 

[Grim17]

And the alternative to government is...? I can't think of anything except pure corporate rule (still a government) or feudalism. Which poison are you picking?

What are you talking about? I'm not suggesting that government needs to be eliminated and replace by something else.

The government entitlement programs that currently exist will never be eliminated. Once the government gives people free stuff, they can't take it away without causing a public uproar and costing politicians who were responsible their careers.

 

[CLAX1911]

LOL Yes the right knows what "culture" is...

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It's Western culture. The left hates that.