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Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

I pulled the prices directly from a food town add.
I used to shop the adds every week, you only buy what is on sale.
The point was, that even with a limited budget, you could get the basis
of making many very good meals.

While the total $50 list is very limited, I could make quite a few good meals.
Basis....is not complete. Ergo, you admit the incompleteness.
 
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Racism is determined by how one reports what they see, the attitudes expressed within and the focus.

Again, makes no difference to me.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

BS, it was 1/3 of what a family of 4, zero income, would receive. That was ALWAYS the baseline in our debate, yer lying again.
If you say a family of 4 would get $150 a week, we really do not need more money in the system.
The $50 a week was something I saw in a SNAP web site, but I have never taken any assistance,
so do not know about the nuances of SNAP.
For $150 a week, I could feed a family of 4 very well.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

If you say a family of 4 would get $150 a week, we really do not need more money in the system.
The $50 a week was something I saw in a SNAP web site, but I have never taken any assistance,
so do not know about the nuances of SNAP.
For $150 a week, I could feed a family of 4 very well.
another bit of BS, you never saw an article on a SNAP website about feeding 4 for a week on $50, they would never publish such a thing.
 
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I suppose with rice capitalized, it is some other product? I know you just won't let go, but yer diet proposal still remains below needed calories, and making rice the largest source of calories is insane.
No, it isn't, and now you are lying about the math....again.
Yer diet is a low calorie/high glucose diet, it is insane.

Researchers from the Harvard School of Public Health found that people who ate five or more servings of white rice a week increased their risk for developing type 2 diabetes, while people who replaced at least a third of their white-rice servings with brown rice lowered their risk by as much as 16 percent. The reason is that white rice has little fiber, especially compared with brown rice, and fiber can help keep blood sugar levels stable.
See the problem you have is that you do not have vision.
What is on sale is not the same thing every week, the diet adjust to what you find on sale.
Once again I have actually lived this way, and you have opinions.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

another bit of BS, you never saw an article on a SNAP website about feeding 4 for a week on $50, they would never publish such a thing.
As I said, I never received any assistance, so am not familiar with the site.
But as I have shown, if I could do it with $50 a week, I could do a world better
with $150 a week.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

We can't have a real discussion on race until white people are willing to accept the fact they have systematically oppressed people for years.
We can't have a real discussion on race until everybody accepts the fact that black people makes choices that makes their lives more challenging.
Uh-huh.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

As I said, I never received any assistance, so am not familiar with the site.
But as I have shown, if I could do it with $50 a week, I could do a world better
with $150 a week.
You didn't do it with $50, that is still the point.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

See the problem you have is that you do not have vision.
What is on sale is not the same thing every week, the diet adjust to what you find on sale.
Once again I have actually lived this way, and you have opinions.
Don't tell me what I know, I did all of the shopping/cooking for two for decades, now it is shopping for 3 and cooking for myself. Yer math fails currently and you can't remember what was said from one day to the next, yer claims have little validity.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

Basis....is not complete. Ergo, you admit the incompleteness.
Actually I could make real meal from that list
A decent moo goo gai pan.
Chicken Salad.
Cheese burgers (Turkey)
Chicken and Rice.
tuna casserole.
Tuna salad. ect.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

You didn't do it with $50, that is still the point.
I have, and did demonstrate it.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

I have, and did demonstrate it.
You demonstrated the ability to create a low calorie/high glucose diet based on 30 pounds of white rice, not a sustainable, healthy, balanced, weight maintaining diet.
 
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Still not sure of your point. All of the liberal rhetoric that spewed all over this thread flies directly in the face of what I have witnessed. Gimme, I pretty much knew that you were a bleeding heart liberal up on your soapbox when you claimed that abuse of SNAP and other safety net programs is rare. Until you present a plausible explanation as to why what I see first hand is not even close to the narrative that you are presenting, anything you say is pretty much just liberal garbage.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

Actually I could make real meal from that list
Not 84, not enough for active adults/teens, one based on 30 lbs of white rice.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

You demonstrated the ability to create a low calorie/high glucose diet based on 30 pounds of white rice, not a sustainable, healthy, balanced, weight maintaining diet.
So now you are back to the diet may keep you from being hungry, but is not good for you.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

Not 84, not enough for active adults/teens, one based on 30 lbs of white rice.
Calories are average, I always provided enough so the family never left hungry.
Again, calories are not the issue, it is education, And I am still not sure why you are arguing
against education, I thought your handle said you were liberal.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

You did not see the other portion of the menu.
That was only the last $12. Here is the first part.
Page 1, 3lbs Roma tomatoes $2.17
Page 2, 3 lbs of onions $1.17
head of cabbage $1.17
2 clumps of spinach $1.55
Page 4, 10 lbs rice $3.88
2X 8 oz shredded cheese, white and yellow if available. $3.54
Page 9, Tuna 4 cans $1.98
Page 14, 6 lbs of boneless chicken thighs $5.94
Page 15 3 lbs ground turkey $6.57
Not on add, Dozen eggs, $2.80
2 loafs store brand bread $2.00
Gallon store Milk $3.00
Celery $1.50
We are up to $37.27, but have basis for quite a few meals,

I can't eat tomatoes, onions, spinach, or tuna.

You have the basis for feeding slaves, not free people.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

Still not sure of your point. All of the liberal rhetoric that spewed all over this thread flies directly in the face of what I have witnessed. Gimme, I pretty much knew that you were a bleeding heart liberal up on your soapbox when you claimed that abuse of SNAP and other safety net programs is rare. Until you present a plausible explanation as to why what I see first hand is not even close to the narrative that you are presenting, anything you say is pretty much just liberal garbage.
There is no point in showing the low levels of fraud in SNAP, there is no point in doing so for someone who has an obvious bias against blacks, who comes into a discussion initially denying it and then is fine with the establishment of it, who has no problem flirting with the idea of denying govt supplement to the neediest, especially in recessions. It doesn't matter if I show the declines in ALL teen births, it is rejected. I have no ability to effect your bias, this sort of bias is more often than not a very deeply held view that is only ended by the passing of the person. It is very rare for people who hold such views to really change. It effects perception, ergo, I cannot change your perspective. I can't change it with verifiable fact....so what is the point?
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

Sorry, you missed the earlier discussion,
I was arguing that SNAP recipients could make their SNAP dollars go further,
if they were educated is how to shop efficiently.
My opinion is based on feeding my family of 4 for a decade, with a low income.
what I spent on groceries was my own money, but the amount was not very different
from what SNAP recipients receive.

Refusing to spend money to buy them more food, while spending money to lecture them, is asinine.

The greater context is that of justifying a refusal to increase food payments to the poor.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

I can't eat tomatoes, onions, spinach, or tuna.

You have the basis for feeding slaves, not free people.
Those are my choices, with a limited budget. others would choose differently.
My point is, and always has been, that people of food assistance, could stretch the
available dollars further, if they were educated in meal planning.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

Calories are average, I always provided enough so the family never left hungry.
Average means for some to get enough, others suffer more, it is a zero sum game, you are not providing enough, this is all repetitive.
Again, calories are not the issue,
They are, when they are insufficient.
it is education, And I am still not sure why you are arguing
against education, I thought your handle said you were liberal.
Straw tangent, and that is all you have left, along with lies and faith based math.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

Refusing to spend money to buy them more food, while spending money to lecture them, is asinine.

The greater context is that of justifying a refusal to increase food payments to the poor.
Teaching people good shopping habits, will help them long after they are off public assistance,
and could help break the cycle of poverty, unless your goal is to keep people in poverty!
I really thought liberals were about enlightening others, all I see here is liberals arguing to
keep people in ignorance.
 
Re: Richest Nation On Earth Can’t Afford Tiny Program To Feed Poor Kids... [W:288]

Average means for some to get enough, others suffer more, it is a zero sum game, you are not providing enough, this is all repetitive.
They are, when they are insufficient.Straw tangent, and that is all you have left, along with lies and faith based math.
The list I provided, has an average calorie count of 1985 calories per person per day.
and that was on $50 a week. just math, the only kind I know.
Education is the path out of poverty, why are you against education?
 
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