RFK Jr. says the CDC buried its own internal study which found a 1135% INCREASE in Autism risk from Hepatitis B Vaccine

[Pyrite]

They're not just claiming that the study exists. They're telling us what it said.

I would like to read whatever they have at the moment.

It looks as if junior and his followers do not have the study at hand.

Someone "remembers" what it said, or, perhaps, word-of-mouth (aka the oral tradition) handed down its content over the years....

(I'd snicker, but it looks as if this is the direction the trump administration is going: no documents, just someone's "word" for what was in the documents that don't exist.)

 

[redbeer]

No one said global pandemics would bring out the best in people

In lots of cases it did.

In lots of other cases, it didn’t.

I was ANGRY for a lot of 2020-2021.

Kid out of school, not getting therapies he needed at the time, businesses closed down as “non-essential”, elderly mother - then dying mother, in-laws trapped in a care facility.

And guess what? I regret being as angry as I was and I regret that I was SO angry? I voted Trump in 2020.

I completely disagreed with what I saw as Democratic overreach. And I was very critical of it.

And then…the 2020 election happened. And instead of accepting the loss, Trump and his loyal followers went FULL MAGA.

See, I fundamentally respect the Constitution and once Trump refused to accept defeat and decided to upend this country?

I immediately regretted that vote…





No.

As someone with my Bachelor’s Degree in history and political science, I can affirmatively say that no - I’ve never once voted for an actual communist nor an actual socialist.

I regret the grandchildren being out of school missing out on a lot of essential school experience. Learning how to get along is an essential part of growing up to maturity, but this comes through experience in real life, not stuck at home on social media or playing video games.

As far as work, for me I was still driving over the road and Covid brought freight prices sky high, plus tons of less idiots on the road. With less police patrolling the hwys, we'd hook up and literally went back in time.....it was hammer down, wide open making as much as possible. They didn't care about logs or much of anything through Covid, just as long as what was being transported wasn't slowed down.

It's the politicization of literally everything under the sun that's destroying the fabric of our nation. I agree with you wholeheartedly with the politization of a pandemic......that was horrible. People dying and in comes the political blame games for votes......made me sick.

My Father was 84, died of many complications with his health issues the last few years of his life, but they said that he died of Covid. Now, I was on the road a lot then, but my older brother had time to see him more often and said he never showed any signs of Covid......so, the numbers game for politics.

I just don't know anymore......I think it's time we start acting like adults, instead of listening to our politicians. With as much as they are seen/heard anymore, it's clear as day, we can't follow their examples. Whether left or right, our leaders are leaderless......it's a damn circus. I think we all need to stand up, shake our head and snap the hell out of it.

 

[CLAX1911]

JFKrazy made the statement.

So if you made the statement that you need to drink water you would think water would poison you?

Up to him to prove it true, but he can't, so why believe it with his history of making BS claims.

How many of these BS claims can you actually attribute to end and not some news article about him

You want to believe wild, unproven claims from a known liar and BS artist, go ahead.

No I wanted to discuss it that's where of discussion forum is for this one a moan cuz you don't like the guy.

 

[BirdinHand]

just don't know anymore......I think it's time we start acting like adults, instead of listening to our politicians. With as much as they are seen/heard anymore, it's clear as day, we can't follow their examples. Whether left or right, our leaders are leaderless......it's a damn circus. I think we all need to stand up, shake our head and snap the hell out of it

The problem is, you’re saying “acting like adults” while supporting the likes of Trump and RFK Jr.

You’re saying “we can’t follow their examples” but you don’t condemn anything they do or say.

So pardon me for finding that entire post not just a bit disingenuous.

Supporting Trump stopped being about disagreeing on policies a LONG time ago.

At this juncture, it’s no longer about policies - it’s about character and actual respect for the Constitution.

Or lack thereof.

 

[redbeer]

Yeah, understanding, measurement, and progress caused much of the "increase". Not shoving every overactive or "different" kid into an asylum never to be heard of or spoken of again caused it.

I swear, Trump could come out tomorrow and claim the earth is flat and y'all would jump on board.

Oh, so it was from progress in understanding, seeing and able to spot autism easier and much more accurately.......couldn't be from vaccines, chemicals, processed food, etc......it's just that the left became smarter, huh?

 

[Pyrite]

Unless it was destroyed or corrupted.

Post #505



Then there's no basis for referencing it.

 

[KingLeo]

So if you made the statement that you need to drink water you would think water would poison you?

How many of these BS claims can you actually attribute to end and not some news article about him

No I wanted to discuss it that's where of discussion forum is for this one a moan cuz you don't like the guy.

One thing is for certain, no one is going to mistake you for being very bright.

 

[Pyrite]

Oh, so it was from progress in understanding, seeing and able to spot autism easier and much more accurately.......couldn't be from vaccines, chemicals, processed food, etc......it's just that the left became smarter, huh?

Post #555

How does your post relate to junior's unfounded nonsense - seemingly based upon a non-existent document of a "study" - that hep B vaccines increased the numbers of on-the-spectrum children?

 

[redbeer]

The problem is, you’re saying “acting like adults” while supporting the likes of Trump and RFK Jr.

You’re saying “we can’t follow their examples” but you don’t condemn anything they do or say.

So pardon me for finding that entire post not just a bit disingenuous.

Supporting Trump stopped being about disagreeing on policies a LONG time ago.

At this juncture, it’s about character and actual respect for the Constitution.

Or lack thereof.

I don't think Trump is perfect, hell nobody is, but condemning Trump on a leftist site not going to occur, because all I see each and everyday is thread after thread chocked plumb full of post after post of the most idiotic ideological nightmares possible. Whooooweeee, nutjob city, lol.

Right leaning sites can be just as bad, nobody innocent here. The hatred of Trump is a phenomenon. The shit they make up is unreal. How anyone could side with the likes of this type of personality is beyond me, yet you think the same of Trump supporters......see the dilemma?

Which is why, I think we've gone the wrong way looking for leaders......it's not in the political arena, heck they're all half nuts.

 

[CLAX1911]

One thing is for certain, no one is going to mistake you for being very bright.

Some personal attacks are the only thing you're capable of I don't think anyone could mistake you for very bright.

 

[Pyrite]

I don't think Trump is perfect, hell nobody is, but condemning Trump on a leftist site not going to occur, because all I see each and everyday is thread after thread chocked plumb full of post after post of the most idiotic ideological nightmares possible. Whooooweeee, nutjob city, lol.

Right leaning sites can be just as bad, nobody innocent here. The hatred of Trump is a phenomenon. The shit they make up is unreal. How anyone could side with the likes of this type of personality is beyond me, yet you think the same of Trump supporters......see the dilemma?

Which is why, I think we've gone the wrong way looking for leaders......it's not in the political arena, heck they're all half nuts.

That anyone can abide trump's appointment of junior is beyond belief.

 

[Diving Mullah]

“They got rid of all the older children essentially and just had younger children who are too young to be diagnosed [with autism].”

Imagine discovering evidence of catastrophic harm and making sure no one ever found out.


- RFK Jr. talked about a 1999 CDC study that found a 1135% increased risk of autism among children vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine within their first 30 days of life. The study was conducted by a team of scientists under Belgian researcher Thomas Verstraeten

-He said the CDC kept the study secret and manipulated it through five different iterations in an attempt to bury the link. One specific tactic he mentioned was getting rid of all the older children from the study, leaving only younger children who were too young to be diagnosed with autism, which skewed the results.

-He said the CDC stratified the data in ways that further obscured the link such as looking at specific subsets of the population that would not show the same risk.

This is evil and there is a special place in hell for the people who were involved in this.

Full Tucker interview:



(6:46) Uncovering the Reason for Skyrocketing Rates of Autism
(13:41) How Big Pharma Enslaves Doctors and Profits off Sickness
(24:22) Is It Possible to End the Corrupt Relationship Between Big Pharma and Corporate Media?
(33:35) Will RFK End Vaccine Company’s Lawsuit Immunity?
(38:37) The Most Damaging Vaccine in History
(47:49) Will There Be Compensation for the Vaccine-Injured?
(53:47) Did the Covid Vaccine Kill More People Than It Saved?
(57:50) RFK’s Firing of So-Called “Experts”
(1:01:58) How Big Pharma Makes Billions off the Vaccine Schedule
(1:05:08) The Real Reason Fauci Got a Pardon
(1:10:42) When Will We See the Declassification of the JFK, RFK, and MLK Files?
(1:20:51) How Trump Is Transforming Washington

1135%....

Does this mean out say 100 who got the vaccine 1,135 can get autisim! How does that math work?

 

[Pyrite]

1135%....

Does this mean out say 100 who got the vaccine 1,135 can get autisim! How does that math work?

Who the heck knows? This uncorroborated claim came courtesy of an anti-vax group:

What RFK Jr. Gets Wrong About Autism - FactCheck.org

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. makes a variety of incorrect or misleading claims about vaccines, COVID-19 and other health-related topics. But his views on vaccines rose to prominence when he began to advance the thoroughly debunked idea that they cause autism.

www.factcheck.org

...There’s no record of Verstraeten publicly presenting a relative risk of 11.35. Instead, the number appears in a 2004 presentation from SafeMinds, an autism-focused anti-vaccine group that helped bring thimerosal concerns to prominence in the first place.

SafeMinds says in the presentation that it obtained statistical tables from Verstraeten’s early analyses via a Freedom of Information Act request. The group claims the data showed a relative risk of autism of 7.62 to 11.35 in children with the highest exposures to thimerosal versus those who weren’t exposed in their first month of life. The presentation does not include the actual documents the group says it obtained via the FOIA request, and the presentation does not include details like confidence intervals. (We reached out to SafeMinds about getting the original documents but did not get a reply.)...


(Credit goes to @multivita-man, who provided the link to this factcheck in Post #86.)

 

[Ikari]

Oh, so it was from progress in understanding, seeing and able to spot autism easier and much more accurately.......couldn't be from vaccines, chemicals, processed food, etc......it's just that the left became smarter, huh?

Well MAGA certainly ain't smarter. They'll buy into dumb **** anti-vaxxer bullshit that isn't supported by actual study or data.

 

[Jezcoe]

Oh, so it was from progress in understanding, seeing and able to spot autism easier and much more accurately.......couldn't be from vaccines, chemicals, processed food, etc......it's just that the left became smarter, huh?

By the “left” do you mean the medical field as a whole?

 

[NOLA Dude]

Who the heck knows? This uncorroborated claim came courtesy of an anti-vax group:

What RFK Jr. Gets Wrong About Autism - FactCheck.org

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. makes a variety of incorrect or misleading claims about vaccines, COVID-19 and other health-related topics. But his views on vaccines rose to prominence when he began to advance the thoroughly debunked idea that they cause autism.

www.factcheck.org

...There’s no record of Verstraeten publicly presenting a relative risk of 11.35. Instead, the number appears in a 2004 presentation from SafeMinds, an autism-focused anti-vaccine group that helped bring thimerosal concerns to prominence in the first place.

SafeMinds says in the presentation that it obtained statistical tables from Verstraeten’s early analyses via a Freedom of Information Act request. The group claims the data showed a relative risk of autism of 7.62 to 11.35 in children with the highest exposures to thimerosal versus those who weren’t exposed in their first month of life. The presentation does not include the actual documents the group says it obtained via the FOIA request, and the presentation does not include details like confidence intervals. (We reached out to SafeMinds about getting the original documents but did not get a reply.)...


(Credit goes to @multivita-man, who provided the link to this factcheck in Post #86.)

You keep posting that. There's no record of the suppressed CDC study? No shit. How would a suppressed study be published?

 

[Pyrite]

You keep posting that. There's no record of the suppressed CDC study? No shit. How would a suppressed study be published?

LOL.....yet junior (and you) seem to believe the no-record-of-the-study study did exist, once upon a time....

 

[Ikari]

You keep posting that. There's no record of the suppressed CDC study? No shit. How would a suppressed study be published?

How would Kennedy know of it if it were so well suppressed?

 

[Hamish Howl]

You keep posting that. There's no record of the suppressed CDC study? No shit. How would a suppressed study be published?

Then how does the heroin addict know about it?

 

[soap box]

PSA-

The GOP said Y-E-S to RFK and DJT and now we're all SOL.

That will be all

 

[KingLeo]

Some personal attacks are the only thing you're capable of I don't think anyone could mistake you for very bright.

And you want to 'debate' an unsubstantiated claim by a guy who has proven himself clueless.
If JFKrazy can produce this mystery study then there is something to debate.
The fact that he can't means there is nothing to debate.

 

[Lursa]

You keep posting that. There's no record of the suppressed CDC study? No shit. How would a suppressed study be published?

You have the name of the man who published it...so does RFK. Has anyone gone to him for the study? Wouldnt he provide a copy?

His name is right there in your OP. I looked him up online...he's available. How many times are you going to hide from this and just stay in your safe place and complain about people dissing RFK?

 

[hecatmoggie]

What changed? Understanding of mental disease and disorder, the ability to measure and diagnoses these things.

Back in the day, they just shipped kids off to the Asylum. People didn't see a lot of these people because they were hidden away. We don't do that anymore, and we now understand a lot more about the conditions and diseases that would have, in the past, landed someone in an Asylum and have better treatment and care for them.

foods
water
environmental

You wanna go back to asylums? Or should we continue to pursue science and understanding, while expanding medical tech and treatment?

its an option with all the homeless and violence people roaming society with mental health issues

 

[Ikari]

 

[Jezcoe]

Doctors cause autism.

We should remove doctors.