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RFK Jr., HHS to Link Autism to Tylenol Use in Pregnancy and Folate Deficiencies

MAGAnificent said:
Projection.
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No projection just facts.
“Antibodies to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, were present in the blood of 96.4% of Americans over the age of 16 by September 2022. That’s according to a serosurvey – an analysis testing for the presence of these immune defense molecules – conducted on samples from blood donors.”

MAGAnificent said:
More projection. If they went to the doctor over any respiratory issue, they were likely tested.
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Well that assumes people with Covid went to the doctor for a respiratory illness . Most people with Covid never need medical support.
And that assumes people who do go to the doctor for medical support consent to a Covid test. A lot of anti vaxxers won’t consent to a Covid test in my experience.
 
MAGAnificent said:
What's the price of the shot without insurance? In my locale, it's less than $30.00. I'm betting the vast majority of your patients spend more than that on recreation.

Pharmacies are the only place they can get vaccines????????
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The average cost of the updated vaccine is around 200 dollars.
If you go to a pharmacy it’s 1. Easier to get in and often offer times after hours so you don’t have to take off work.
2. You don’t get charged for a medical visit as you do when you get a shot from the dr.
 
MAGAnificent said:
Well, there are no longer roadside tent setups, but then we are no longer in a pandemic.

Point is if you want to get him tested you can.


I am old and retired. I can make an appointment at the VA, however if it's a respiratory virus, and I don't seem to be shaking it off with Tylenol and chicken soup, I go to Urgent care and they test for every common virus, including Covid.
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Gosh that government insurance sure is great isn’t it?
 
jaeger19 said:
“Antibodies to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, were present in the blood of 96.4% of Americans over the age of 16 by September 2022. That’s according to a serosurvey –
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With all do respect for your service in the medical profession, I do not take 96.4 by way of a survey too seriously.
jaeger19 said:
Well that assumes people with Covid went to the doctor for a respiratory illness .
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Last time I checked, Covid is a respiratory illness.
jaeger19 said:
Most people with Covid never need medical support.
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True.
jaeger19 said:
And that assumes people who do go to the doctor for medical support consent to a Covid test.
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Personally, I assume that the vast majority of people who go to the doctor for medical consent do not turn down a Covid test. When I go to urgent care for a respiratory illness, they test for all prevalent viruses at the time. Ii don't recall ever being asked for consent. I expect them to diagnose me.
jaeger19 said:
A lot of anti vaxxers won’t consent to a Covid test in my experience.
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How much in your experience is alot? I have a hard time believing there are many who walk in coughing and hacking with a respiratory issue say: "Whatever you do, don't you dare test me for that damn Covid." Anti-vaxx or not, the vast majority want to know if they have Covid, the flu, RSV, etc.
 
MAGAnificent said:
With all do respect for your service in the medical profession, I do not take 96.4 by way of a survey too seriously.

Last time I checked, Covid is a respiratory illness.

True.

Personally, I assume that the vast majority of people who go to the doctor for medical consent do not turn down a Covid test. When I go to urgent care for a respiratory illness, they test for all prevalent viruses at the time. Ii don't recall ever being asked for consent. I expect them to diagnose me.

How much in your experience is alot? I have a hard time believing there are many who walk in coughing and hacking with a respiratory issue say: "Whatever you do, don't you dare test me for that damn Covid." Anti-vaxx or not, the vast majority want to know if they have Covid, the flu, RSV, etc.
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1st paragraph demonstrates intentional ignorance.
 
jaeger19 said:
The average cost of the updated vaccine is around 200 dollars
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That is pretty steep, however most have insurance, Medicaid, or Medicare. And those that do not can get it for free at the health department.
jaeger19 said:
If you go to a pharmacy it’s 1. Easier to get in and often offer times after hours so you don’t have to take off work.
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Well, evidently RFK Jr is not keeping pharmacies from offering them:

Schedule Free COVID-19 Vaccines | Walgreens

Find information and answers to your questions about the COVID-19 vaccine, including scheduling, kid's shots, boosters, additional doses, records and more.
www.walgreens.com www.walgreens.com
jaeger19 said:
2. You don’t get charged for a medical visit as you do when you get a shot from the dr.
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See above.
 
From the article:

Levy says that just publishing the meta-analysis of human studies doesn’t give readers important context about animal studies conducted by the National Toxicology Program, which found no apparent decrease in learning and memory in rodents exposed to low to moderate fluoride levels. He points out that all of the human studies included in the review were from countries outside the US and that the majority are classified by the study authors as having a high risk of bias.

“Thus, despite the presentation of some evidence of a possible association between IQ and high fluoride levels in water, there is no evidence of an adverse effect at the lower fluoride levels commonly used in [community water fluoridation] systems,” he wrote.

The study authors agree with him on that point.

In a statement, they say they didn’t have enough data to know whether the level of fluoride that’s recommended for drinking water has any effect on children’s IQ.
 
MAGAnificent said:
With all do respect for your service in the medical profession, I do not take 96.4 by way of a survey too seriously.
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Great .
Explain exactly why the study is flawed and present your research that shows the vast majority of unvaccinated don’t have anti bodies for covid.
MAGAnificent said:
Last time I checked, Covid is a respiratory illness.
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Yep. It simply doesn’t always cause symptoms that will cause someone to go to the doctor.
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MAGAnificent said:
True.

Personally, I assume that the vast majority of people who go to the doctor for medical consent do not turn down a Covid test
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Not when it comes to anti vaxxers. I’ve literally had patients who were in the hospital with Covid, having to be INTUBATED because of it and still refuse to believe they have Covid.
Your MAGA right wingers have done an awesome job indoctrinating your fellow Americans into stupidity.
MAGAnificent said:
. When I go to urgent care for a respiratory illness, they test for all prevalent viruses at the time. Ii don't recall ever being asked for consent. I expect them to diagnose me.
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They did ask for consent and you likely didn’t throw a fit as some patients do when they broke out the Covid test and went to stick it up your nose.
Like I said you right wingers MAGAs did a great job of indoctrinating people into stupidity.
MAGAnificent said:
How much in your experience is alot? I have a hard time believing there are many who walk in coughing and hacking with a respiratory issue say: "Whatever you do, don't you dare test me for that damn Covid."
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I’d say now about a third won’t submit to a test .
MAGAnificent said:
Anti-vaxx or not, the vast majority want to know if they have Covid, the flu, RSV, etc.
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No they don’t. Many anti vaxxers still think Covid is a hoax.
You MAGAs did your job of indoctrinating well.
 
MAGAnificent said:
That is pretty steep, however most have insurance,
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Private insurances don’t have to pay if it’s not on the recommended approved cdc list.
MAGAnificent said:
Medicaid, or Medicare. And those that do not can get it for free at the health department.
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No they can’t “ get it free at the health department.
MAGAnificent said:
Well, evidently RFK Jr is not keeping pharmacies from offering them:

Schedule Free COVID-19 Vaccines | Walgreens

Find information and answers to your questions about the COVID-19 vaccine, including scheduling, kid's shots, boosters, additional doses, records and more.
www.walgreens.com www.walgreens.com

See above.
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If you can afford it to pay for it and you are in the recommended list.
If you are not on the recommended list then they can’t.
 
Fledermaus said:
From the article:

Levy says that just publishing the meta-analysis of human studies doesn’t give readers important context about animal studies conducted by the National Toxicology Program, which found no apparent decrease in learning and memory in rodents exposed to low to moderate fluoride levels. He points out that all of the human studies included in the review were from countries outside the US and that the majority are classified by the study authors as having a high risk of bias.

“Thus, despite the presentation of some evidence of a possible association between IQ and high fluoride levels in water, there is no evidence of an adverse effect at the lower fluoride levels commonly used in [community water fluoridation] systems,” he wrote.

The study authors agree with him on that point.

In a statement, they say they didn’t have enough data to know whether the level of fluoride that’s recommended for drinking water has any effect on children’s IQ.
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You beat me to it.

There have been literally hundreds of studies, maybe thousands, on the safety and efficacy of fluoridation, covering well over half a century and millions of beneficiaries. Apparently we can disregard all those studies and draw several unsupported conclusions based on one study.

Welcome to the post-science era.
 
Stealers Wheel said:
You beat me to it.

There have been literally hundreds of studies, maybe thousands, on the safety and efficacy of fluoridation, covering well over half a century and millions of beneficiaries. Apparently we can disregard all those studies and draw several unsupported conclusions based on one study.

Welcome to the post-science era.
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This is the biggest issue with the Twitter scientists - they aren't aware of the large numbers behind the accepted science. This one study says what they want, and the hundreds of other studies must be a conspiracy.

That, and there is a real tendency for posts - and mass media before that - to focus on the outliers, because they are more interesting. I can't tell you how often my mother would call me about some Woman's Day article about the latest cancer "breakthrough."
 
jaeger19 said:
Explain exactly why the study is flawed and present your research that shows the vast majority of unvaccinated don’t have anti bodies for covid.
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I am not obligated to justify my opinions to you or anyone else.
jaeger19 said:
Yep. It simply doesn’t always cause symptoms that will cause someone to go to the doctor.
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True, However if they are coughing and hacking with a respiratory issue they cannot seem to shake off, they go to a doctor. Personally, I will not go in for a simple case of the sniffles, though I may test at home.
jaeger19 said:
Not when it comes to anti vaxxers.
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Projection.
jaeger19 said:
I’ve literally had patients who were in the hospital with Covid, having to be INTUBATED because of it and still refuse to believe they have Covid.
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In 2023, I was hesitant to believe I had Cancer; however I submitted to diagnosis.
jaeger19 said:
Your MAGA right wingers have done an awesome job indoctrinating your fellow Americans into stupidity.
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Are Joe Biden and Kamala Harris MAGA right wingers? Go back and watch the 2020 debates
jaeger19 said:
They did ask for consent and you likely didn’t throw a fit as some patients do when they broke out the Covid test and went to stick it up your nose.
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I simply went in for a diagnosis and expected they would test for Covid, flu, cold, RSV, etc. They did not ask me to sign a consent form
jaeger19 said:
No they don’t. Many anti vaxxers still think Covid is a hoax.
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Projection. Not enough to matter.
 
jaeger19 said:
Private insurances don’t have to pay if it’s not on the recommended approved cdc list.
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Walgreens is offering them at reduced prices, most insurance must be covering them.
jaeger19 said:
No they can’t “ get it free at the health department.
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  • Free or reduced-cost vaccines are available from state and local health departments, community-based health clinics and initiatives, pharmaceutical manufacturers and national and local pharmacies.
 
jaeger19 said:
It’s insurance.
The same as if someone worked in a job that offered insurance when they retired etc.
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The care I get at the VA is not insurance, it's coverage. While I pay small co-pays, I do not pay premiums. What I get through Community Care is similar to insurance as it's administered by Insurance providers, in my case United Healthcare Optum, however there are no copays or premiums. I cannot be billed for the difference in what is billed and what the VA pays.
 
MAGAnificent said:
The care I get at the VA is not insurance, it's coverage. While I pay small co-pays, I do not pay premiums. What I get through Community Care is similar to insurance as it's administered by Insurance providers, in my case United Healthcare Optum, however there are no copays or premiums. I cannot be billed for the difference in what is billed and what the VA pays.
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That's just good insurance. The government is paying your premiums.
 
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