We accept just about everything science has taught us, as far as it goes. Tomorrow further research may well advance what we know today. That's how science works; constant questioning, experimenting, testing theories etc. There was a time when we accepted that the Sun revolves around the Earth; advances in science proved the opposite. What are you getting at here?
I would be happy to elaborate. Every year, there are thousands and thousands of studies being published and dissected. The scientific community gathers all the data and forms recommendations for patients and medical facilities. The current belief on autism, based on various studies and paper analysis, points to genetics as the dominate factor. What you see from Trump and Kennedy is that they take one or two studies, manipulate its findings, and then use it for public health recommendations. The Trump Administration is using the Harvard study as their gold standard for acetaminophen for small children and pregnant women. The problem here is that their results were vastly different than the authors of the study. They did find that women who took acetaminophen for pain relief did produce more autistic children, but that the results were inconclusive and felt there were other factors in play. They still recommended acetaminophen for pain. In short, my point is that we should accept the scientific consensus. If the current standard changes, we should adjust our thinking.
Tylenol studies:
www.drugs.com
There are three antipyretics- aspirin, acetominophen and NSAIDS like ibuprofen.Tylenol studies:
Does Tylenol cause autism, what do the studies say?
Official answer: Key Points Tylenol (acetaminophen), also known as paracetamol, is a common pain reliever and fever reducer. It is found...
I've typed before in this thread ... several times... that there are some studies that show a solid link and some studies that don't.
This link says it's inclusive overall. Why do they keep doing research if there are ZERO indicators?
Fever:
From what I found so far, sustained extreme internal fever >103 deg is definitely a big issue during pregnancy.
Other:
Over-the-counter Ibruprofen & Aspirin are both not advised during pregnancy, why the extreme focus on Tylenol?
Do I really need to say it? It's political, 100%.
The only comparison meant to be drawn is that Thalidomide was initially thought to be benign but turned out that it wasn't.
I seldom quote so much but please read these words: The full article can be found at:
orACOG Affirms Safety Benefits Acetaminophen Pregnancy
"The data from numerous studies have shown that acetaminophen plays an important—and safe—role in the well-being of pregnant women."www.acog.org
ACOG Affirms Safety Benefits Acetaminophen Pregnancy
"The data from numerous studies have shown that acetaminophen plays an important—and safe—role in the well-being of pregnant women."
“In more than two decades of research on the use of acetaminophen in pregnancy, not a single reputable study has successfully concluded that the use of acetaminophen in any trimester of pregnancy causes neurodevelopmental disorders in children. In fact, the two highest-quality studies on this subject—one of which was published in JAMA last year—found no significant associations between use of acetaminophen during pregnancy and children’s risk of autism, ADHD, or intellectual disability.
“The studies that are frequently pointed to as evidence of a causal relationship, including the latest systematic review released in August, include the same methodological limitations—for example, lack of a control for confounding factors or use of unreliable self-reported data—that are prevalent in the majority of studies on this topic.
“Acetaminophen is one of the few options available to pregnant patients to treat pain and fever, which can be harmful to pregnant people when left untreated. Maternal fever, headaches as an early sign of preeclampsia, and pain are all managed with the therapeutic use of acetaminophen, making acetaminophen essential to the people who need it. The conditions people use acetaminophen to treat during pregnancy are far more dangerous than any theoretical risks and can create severe morbidity and mortality for the pregnant person and the fetus."
Again thalodamide was NOT given to pregnant women for the same reasons as tylenol. There was no consideration given to possible side effects of thalidomide on pregnant women but from there was and still is for tylenol.
Well, then there's some common ground between us then.
However, the above studies were debunked.The Dangers of Acetaminophen for Neurodevelopment Outweigh Scant Evidence for Long-Term Benefits - PMC
Based on available data that include approximately 20 lines of evidence from studies in laboratory animal models, observations in humans, correlations in time, and pharmacological/toxicological considerations, it has been concluded without ...pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Does taking Tylenol during pregnancy cause autism? The evidence says 'no.'
Best-available data show Tylenol use is pregnancy doesn't cause autism. Experts say it's safe and often necessary for pain and fever relief.www.uchealth.org
Research doesn’t show using Tylenol during pregnancy causes autism. Here are 5 things to know
There’s no known single cause of autism.www.pbs.org
I again repeat any pregnant woman should speak to their obstetrician about using tylenol and not rely on Trump, RFK Jr. or Nola Dude who I would suggest have limited education or expertise in this topic.
We should be studying both biological and environmental factors into autism. I am not sure what people are confused about.
Why are you unsatisfied with the current explanation? The scientific community points to genetics as the common factor. Autism rates have risen partly because of expansive definition, more awareness, and better testing methods. For example, Celiac Disease has significantly risen since 2000 too. More and more people are either Celiac or have the gluten intolerance. Was it because of acetaminophen or is it because of better testing and awareness?
I am glad we can agree. For now, I think a low dosage of acetaminophen is the best pain reliever for pregnancy and small children. There are no other alternatives with the least side effects.
It might be worth pointing out to these people that autism was first recognised as a condition in the 1940s-1943 to be exact. A certain Dr.Hans Asperger further defined it in 1944. Tylenol/Paracetamol weren't marketed until 1955.
My belief is that Autism and Tylenol being linked is purely coincidental. Post Hoc to be exact. Unless there was a new additive to Tylenol or Paracetamol starting in the 2000s, it is going to be hard for me to believe that a pain reliever pill, pretty much everybody takes, is the root cause. But look, I pride myself in being open-minded, I am perfectly willing to hear people out.
I answered Josie's question with a more broad based answer, than simply looking at Tylenol.
Considering that you are not answering for 2020 and 2024, other than to say "not Trump", I will have to assume that you voted for Biden in 2020 and Harris in 2024. Do you deny that?
What they said was tough it out if you can.
Caffeine only causes headaches if you abuse it frequently and get addicted to it and stop taking it. Many who down too much soda pop and energy drinks or too much coffee have that problem. And blood pressure increase is only until you metabolize it out of your system..
“The announcement on autism was the saddest display of a lack of evidence, rumors, recycling old myths, lousy advice, outright lies, and dangerous advice I have ever witnessed by anyone in authority in the world claiming to know anything about science,” said Arthur Caplan of the New York University School of Medicine.
I think the left is terrified that the answer will come during Trump's second term and his administration will get some level of credit for it.
Do you think women take Tylenol for fun?
This isn’t like saying “don’t drink alcohol” - it’s telling women to suck it up when it comes to pain or fevers, etc when they’re going through incredible changes to their ENTIRE BODY.
Pregnancy hurts. Not just delivery - PREGNANCY. Your body is shifting around and stretching and repositioning not only your internal organs but your literal bone structures and ligaments and joints. Your hormones are raging and your entire body and every system in it is working extra to grow an entire HUMAN. (And you’re doing this while also functioning and working, etc)
I can’t even imagine my husband having the audacity to tell me to “suck it up”. Or even fathom uttering words or thinking “why chance it” and even harboring ANY thought in the back of his mind that if our child wasn’t his idea of “perfect” it would have somehow been MY fault…
But hey, some people blame women for everything so
You can type whatever you want. What you are supposed to do is provide corroboration for what you "type"/claim.Tylenol studies:
Does Tylenol cause autism, what do the studies say?
Official answer: Key Points Tylenol (acetaminophen), also known as paracetamol, is a common pain reliever and fever reducer. It is found...
I've typed before in this thread ... several times... that there are some studies that show a solid link and some studies that don't.
This link says it's inclusive overall. Why do they keep doing research if there are ZERO indicators?
Fever:
From what I found so far, sustained extreme internal fever >103 deg is definitely a big issue during pregnancy.
Other:
Over-the-counter Ibruprofen & Aspirin are both not advised during pregnancy, why the extreme focus on Tylenol?
Do I really need to say it? It's political, 100%.