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Reports: Ferguson grand jury has made decision



So post an example of such an occurence. I've come as close as, I believe, possible. An unarmed white man shot by a black cop where the black cop was exonerated and I (and most would) agree with that outcome. Dealing with a hypothetical is not only difficult, but impossible to argue.

But... If the exact same situation occured with just the race of the actors changed, I would still support the outcome that was achieved - exoneration of the black police officer and condemnation of the white executive - in your hypothetical.

Many of those currently condemning the cop woudl not only not know about it, but would agree with the decision since the emotional response would be very different.
 
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1. Shoplifting is different than strong arm robbery.

2. What evidence do you have that no attack occured? Because there was evidence that it did occur along with black eyewitnesses that said it occurred.

3. Ok your "hypothetical" what ever...it's still itter crap and meant to excuse the behavior of Mike Brown that day.

4. Doesn't matter GJ did not indict, and no amount of bitching about it will change that...
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
So you are saying because of systematic racial injustices, the best thing we can hope for is back people rioting over a thug who just robbed a store and charged a cop and got killed for it?
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I think we can hope for better management of the threat incurred upon minorities via perceived injustice under systemic privilege.

The real culprit here starts with the media who played up the "white cop black "kid"" angle, fanning the flames, then the feurgeson police for making all the wrong choices in dealing with the protests.
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The real culprit is the person that attacked a police officer and those that would use tragedy (of whatever sort) to riot.

Then you have the breakdown of the african American family, and systematic poverty, to which in suck african american communities there is peer pressure of being smart and trying to be successful as "acting white".
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We all struggle with this problem, minorities and the majority need to work towards better understanding.

coupled with the dependent class hand out society created by the left you have reactions such as this.
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The reaction is not to do with entitlement. It's to do with perceived injustice constituting a collective threat.

ultimately though the riots, are to be blamed on the rioters/.
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The same criminals that are responsible for this and other horrendous crimes (regardless of race, etc). They exist, in every group, and they will take advantage of insecurity.
 
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Shoplifting and robbery are both stealing. And by the way, rich white people also engage in robbery, extortion, and violent coercion. I have not collected any evidence. Do a google search and you can read about the contradictory evidence that was presented to the jury. I am not trying to provide an excuse, all I am saying is that there is evidence that contradicts the police officer's version of the events that took place. That being the case, there should have been a trial. Of course it doesn't matter to you because Brown is a black male whose life matters little to you.
 

What " evidence " contradicts Wilson's side of the story ?

Just curious.

All I've seen so far is evidence that backs up his side of the story and evidence that proves the " hands up dont shoot " mantra was all based on lies.

And no there shouldn't have been a trial.

A GJ can indict on much less than it would take to prove guilt in a Court of law.
 
Fenton said:
What " evidence " contradicts Wilson's side of the story ?
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Do a simple google search and read about the evidence that was presented to the grand jury.
 
You got some absurd claims there.
1. He did not die for his crime of stealing.

2. Officer Wilson did not fire randomly.
The gun went off in the car during a struggle. That isn't wildly.
He fired at a moving target until the threat ceased to be a threat. That isn't wildly.

3. This all could have been avoided had Brown not stole and if he had complied with what he was told to do.
Had Brown done so, he would still be alive today.
 




What the hell is this world coming to?
This white privileged bs needs to stop.

Student mugged, says he deserved it because of his 'privilege'
Oliver Friedfeld blames his misfortune on his privilege and the inequality gap.
The student suggests that until we right the wrongs of the past, society should get used to “sporadic muggings and break-ins.”​
Student mugged, says he deserved it because of his 'privilege'​
 
And you are simply wrong in your assertion.
Especially as the evidence in toto clearly indicated the Officer was correct.
Bad evidence can simply be dismissed, by a prosecutor a a GJ. And as such there was no need for a trial here.

It's like you think that a witness' account that doesn't mach up with the rest of the evidence or forensics should still be considered as credible as any other account that does match up. :doh That would be ridiculous.

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Excon said:
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I see, "black people" apparently prefer segregation...



oh man...this is ridiculous.

This mugged idiot really thinks that he deserves to be victimized... Does he not realize that what he's simultaneously saying is that black people deserve to be criminals?
 

Or.. Can't control themselves / know the difference between good/bad. He's the ultimate racist.
 
haymarket said:
Where do you come up with stuff? :doh:roll::shock:
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It is a serious question. You want to claim that blacks have are still suffering from systemic privilege given to whites. I call BS. Why? Because blacks can be in the middle, their rates have grown, and shrunk...along with everyone else.

Sorry slick. Systemic poverty exists. And in that way systemic privilege to the rich. But not because of race.



(This is just reference for later...read if you want)

http://www.wamsucc.org/education-urban-immersion_39_2878173104.pdf
 

did you read the two books I recommended to you?

I read your link. What message am I suppose to come away with?
 
ecofarm said:
I think we can hope for better management of the threat incurred upon minorities via perceived injustice under systemic privilege.
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Do you even know what you are saying here?


The real culprit is the person that attacked a police officer and those that would use tragedy (of whatever sort) to riot.
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You are splitting my whole point to argue it out of context.


We all struggle with this problem, minorities and the majority need to work towards better understanding.
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understanding of what?

The reaction is not to do with entitlement. It's to do with perceived injustice constituting a collective threat.
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Then why loot the store the dude robbed? Why burn down minority owned businesses? again stripping my whole to argue out of context particulars.

The same criminals that are responsible for this and other horrendous crimes (regardless of race, etc). They exist, in every group, and they will take advantage of insecurity.
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Like mikey brown's stepdad inciting said riots?
 




lol... Oliver deserved to get mugged because he's an idiot.
 

No, I am not a racist sir, and I'd be glad if you'd stop your dishonest, backhanded method of calling me one...You said yourself that you had no evidence that no attack occurred, yet you, in the same post talk of "conflicting evidence"... Does that mean evidence that led to the GJ tossing the indictment? Or, do you somehow believe that evidence, and testimony that was discredited to somehow still be of any value because it fits what you want so much to believe...?
 

I'm saying efforts towards equal opportunity and transparency are good for blacks and whites. The police department will examine existing and possible policies.

Regarding "black owned businesses", do you have a stat?
 
haymarket said:
did you read the two books I recommended to you?

I read your link. What message am I suppose to come away with?
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No. And I won't. I also didn't expect you to read mine. Because it is just for later.

Fact is...whites are no longer given more opportunities because of their skin color. To claim that is to ignore how our society works now. I have never even heard of someone being given something special because they are white.

All the claims that white people have it better are BS. It is an excuse. You still can't produce me one example in modern America where whites are given something blacks are not...systemically. And even if you tried I can almost guarantee that it will be systemically provided to those with more money. Because that is how our society ACTUALLY works in modern America.

You will never convince me that white privilege exists now. Because it doesn't. If it does...I guess I must have missed out on whatever the hell it was I was supposed to collect.
 
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No. And I won't. I also didn't expect you to read mine.
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I did read your link.

You will never convince me that white privilege exists now.
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You confuse me with someone who cares to try. I fully realize that your belief system will not allow you to even read information which might challenge you as you just admitted with your refusal to read even a conservative take on the topic.
 
MildSteel said:
Do a simple google search and read about the evidence that was presented to the grand jury.
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I didn't ask " Google, I asked you.

You claimed there was " evidence " that contradicted Wilson's testimony.

Now were you lying or what ?
 
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