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Report: U.S. to pay family of Ashli Babbitt, killed by police Jan. 6 (10 Viewers)

Taylor said:
It wasn't even the final barricade. It was a hallway with a bunch of closed doors with locks. There were no Congress members anywhere near her, certainly not to where she posed an imminent threat.
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Wrong.

Babbitt and her fellow attackers were no more than about 20’ from the doors to the Lower House chamber, where members of Congress and others were in the process of being evacuated.
 
Taylor said:
There you go. That's an example of an imminent threat of death. Compare to climbing into a window.
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You were the one who ridiculously said they can't shoot you just because they think you might pull the trigger. Explain how that's different from a rational fear of a violent mob following and overrunning Byrd.
 
Taylor said:
They had been beating on those doors long before the shooting. You really should watch the videos.
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No. The window of the door had just broken, shattered within less than a minute of Babbitt being shot because the 3 officers were in the way. They were breaking through that glass within a few seconds of hitting it directly.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Wrong.

Babbitt and her fellow attackers were no more than about 20’ from the doors to the Lower House chamber, where members of Congress and others were in the process of being evacuated.
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RIght, twenty feet away to a locked door with Congress another XX feet away behind it does not classify as an "imminent" threat. The only person in her immediate vicinity was the officer, and she never posed a death or serious bodily harm risk to him.
 
Taylor said:
RIght, twenty feet away to a locked door with Congress another XX feet away behind it does not classify as an "imminent" threat. The only person in her immediate vicinity was the officer, and she never posed a death or serious bodily harm risk to him.
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Yeah, if you are smashing through a barricade to assault people, they get to shoot you. Don't like it? Don't smash through barricades to attack people.

Don't want to get shot? Don't break into my house.

Don't want to get shot? Don't assault my kids.

Don't want to get shot? Don't assault the capital in an attempt on Congress.


It's actually pretty easy not to get shot. Mostly you simply have to not threaten or assault others. The fault for Babbits death is all on her.
 
Taylor said:
RIght, twenty feet away to a locked door with Congress another XX feet away behind it does not classify as an "imminent" threat. The only person in her immediate vicinity was the officer, and she never posed a death or serious bodily harm risk to him.
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Your OPINION is noted and laughed at given the facts on that day.
 
cpwill said:
Enjoy.
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RIght. Just like I said, "may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person."

cpwill said:
The act in this case is very similar. She was breaking into a building to attack others - and got killed for it. She played a stupid game, and she won a stupid prize.
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But it's not legal to shoot someone coming through a window unless it's your home.
 
Taylor said:
RIght, twenty feet away to a locked door with Congress another XX feet away behind it does not classify as an "imminent" threat. The only person in her immediate vicinity was the officer, and she never posed a death or serious bodily harm risk to him.
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Already forgotten what you posted?
Taylor said:
It was a hallway with a bunch of closed doors with locks. There were no Congress members anywhere near her
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There were not “a bunch of closed doors with locks” between Babbitt and her fellow attackers.

There was one door just a few yards beyond the barricade they had just breached, and an unarmed group of people beyond that.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Already forgotten what you posted?

There were not “a bunch of closed doors with locks” between Babbitt and her fellow attackers.

There was one door just a few yards beyond the barricade they had just breached, and an unarmed group of people beyond that.
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There are many doors in the Speaker's Lobby.
 
Taylor said:
RIght. Just like I said, "may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person."


But it's not legal to shoot someone coming through a window unless it's your home.
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The people who reviewed the shooting disagree.

BTE - WTF do you think they were breaking down the barricade to do?
 
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