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Report: Russia Hoax Was Built On ‘One Scant, Unclear, And Unverifiable Fragment Of A Sentence’

The OP is completely discredited by what the NYT published yesterday.

New Reports on Russian Interference Don’t Show What Trump Says They Do

The assessment said that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia had ordered a multifaceted information operation targeting the U.S. presidential election, including by hacking and releasing Democratic emails and by seeding social media with messages promoting Mr. Trump and denigrating his rival, Hillary Clinton.

The assessment also attributed three motivations to Mr. Putin. Two have not been seriously challenged: He wanted to undermine public faith in democracy and to damage Mrs. Clinton, who until election night was widely seen as the next U.S. president. But Mr. Trump and his allies have long chafed at the third asserted goal — that Russia also hoped to help him win.

The reports released by the Trump team are limited to evaluating the use of intelligence that was available in December 2016, and do not address subsequent developments. That includes Mr. Putin’s statement at a news conference with Mr. Trump in Helsinki, Finland, in 2018, in which he said through a translator that he had indeed wanted Mr. Trump to win the election “because he talked about bringing the U.S.-Russia relationship back to normal.”

Others who have had access to the previously classified information and files from that period have reached different conclusions.

John Durham, a special counsel appointed in Mr. Trump’s first term who hunted for a basis to fault the actions of law enforcement and intelligence officials early in that investigation, already scrutinized the drafting of the 2017 intelligence assessment and did not criticize anything about it in his final report.

And in a five-volume 2020 report, the Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee — led by then-Senator Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican who is now Mr. Trump’s secretary of state and national security adviser — reached its own conclusion that Russia’s motivations had included aspiring to improve Mr. Trump’s chances of winning.

You think the NYT that pushed the bullshit Russia collusion narrative, Joe Biden is fine cognitively and Saddam had WMD discredits declassified Obama administration documents? Seriously?
 
You shouldn't trust anything that any of these people say. Their only agenda is to discredit and attack their political opponents. The Democrats and Republicans will say anything, manufacture any kind of evidence, to try and manipulate your anger to be useful to them. Both sides are exactly the same. So stop playing their stupid game.
Do you have a comment about the subject of this thread?
 
You think the NYT that pushed the bullshit Russia collusion narrative, Joe Biden is fine cognitively and Saddam had WMD discredits declassified Obama administration documents? Seriously?

You didn't address any of the points made. If it's incorrect you could say why.

And you're still posting but you haven't answered-

What conclusions or reports use the Steele Dossier as a source?
 
Nothing but gobbledigook and you believe it?
Everything he posted was accurate. If you don't think it was point out specifically what you think wasn't. I bet you won't.

Mueller had hard evidence when he indicted those Russians and nothing in these "releases" changes a thing.
Hard evidence? Whats that mean? Did he prove it in a court of law? Nope so that claim is meaningless.
According to the U.S. intelligence community, the operation—code named Project Lakhta—was ordered directly by Russian president Vladimir Putin. The "hacking and disinformation campaign" to damage Clinton and help Trump became the "core of the scandal known as Russiagate".


"According to the US Intelligence Community"

Do you think its 2014? You know nobody falls for that shit anymore after the Russia collusion hoax right?
 
You didn't address any of the points made. If it's incorrect you could say why.
Its laughable you think the NYT spin discredits declassified Obama administration documents.
And you're still posting but you haven't answered-

What conclusions or reports use the Steele Dossier as a source?
I'm not sure, but we know that the Hillary created discredited Steele Dossier was included in the ICA as well as FISA warrants. What's your point?
 
Who cares which websites Dave Van Zandt thinks are biased or not? Do you think because he created his own website that he's the authority on bias?

The lefties here think Mediabiasfactcheck is some magic silver bullet that automatically discredits an article you don't like without you ever showing if anything is inaccurate.

that is how i can tell that the Left is in FULL panic mode, is by finding some kind of chart to discredit the Facts.

for me, that IS the Stamp of Approval.


The Federalist as a source.....

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thanks Rogue, now the Sheep are given the proper Psyops they need to disregard whatever Nola is discussing.

any other news to push them over the Cliff? i will wait.



blessings Sheeep, 50 days are you ready yet?


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Do you have a comment about the subject of this thread?
Yes, this is my comment.

It's all a hoax. The Russian collusion, the Epstein files, the Trump trial; all of it. None of it means anything. No one will ever be punished. No one will be held accountable. Because it's all fake. Manufactured content intended to bait your outrage. So don't bother getting angry about it. Don't be baited into blaming the other side. Republicans and Democrats are equally corrupt and terrible, and neither of them deserve your support.
 
that is how i can tell that the Left is in FULL panic mode, is by finding some kind of chart to discredit the Facts.

for me, that IS the Stamp of Approval.




thanks Rogue, now the Sheep are given the proper Psyops they need to disregard whatever Nola is discussing.

any other news to push them over the Cliff? i will wait.



blessings Sheeep, 50 days are you ready yet?


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There's no reason to believe what anyone says anymore. All politicians on both sides are liars, and their loyal media outlets lie right along with them. This is all a stupid game they play to try to manipulate voters. None of it is worth anything, and no one will ever be held accountable for any of it.
 
Its laughable you think the NYT spin discredits declassified Obama administration documents.
And you still are unable to address the facts in the article. No matter what you think of the NYT
you could still articulate what your disagreement is. But you're unable to respond to the merits.

I'm not sure, but we know that the Hillary created discredited Steele Dossier was included in the ICA as well as FISA warrants. What's your point?

The point is that no one used the Steele Dossier in their analysis. Read the emails in the documents that were declassified. They're not discussing anything in the dossier.

Gabby's claim is that the ICA was altered, she points to the House intelligence committee report of 2020. The problem is that the report mentions the Steele dossier but no example of its use as a source is included.

Gabby claims that Obama changed the ICA based on the Dossier and he did not. Brennan didn't rely on the dossier and he didn't lie to Congress because the Dossier was already abandoned months before the December 9 meeting. If you think Obama changed the ICA like Gabby is claiming then-

What conclusions or decisions were based on the Steele dossier as a source?

So I'm asking you, what conclusions or decisions were based on the Steele dossier as a source?
 
Can you prove anything in that Federalist article to be wrong?
Both sides are equally content to post any type of content, no matter how questionable, as long as it vilifies the other side. What reason do any of us have to take it seriously. It's all just political propaganda, from both sides, designed to manipulate our emotions and stoke our outrage. I'm not buying it anymore.
 
Don Jr said all his meetings with Russians were about adoptions. So there's that.
 
Its laughable you think the NYT spin discredits declassified Obama administration documents.

I'm not sure, but we know that the Hillary created discredited Steele Dossier was included in the ICA as well as FISA warrants. What's your point?

And you never answered why trump lied about his financial dealings in Russia.

So I'm asking you, why did Trump lie about his business dealings in Russia?
 
And you never answered why trump liesy about his financial dealings in Russia.
Who cares? Are you insinuating doing business in Russia or lying about it is illegal?
So I'm asking you, why did Trump lie about his business dealings in Russia?
It has nothing to do with the Hillary created Russia collusion hoax.
 
Yes, this is my comment.

It's all a hoax. The Russian collusion, the Epstein files, the Trump trial; all of it. None of it means anything. No one will ever be punished. No one will be held accountable. Because it's all fake. Manufactured content intended to bait your outrage. So don't bother getting angry about it. Don't be baited into blaming the other side. Republicans and Democrats are equally corrupt and terrible, and neither of them deserve your support.
Oh okay. Is the sky really blue or is that fake too?
 
And you still are unable to address the facts in the article. No matter what you think of the NYT
you could still articulate what your disagreement is. But you're unable to respond to the merits.
How would I do that when it's behind a paywall?

Also, Charlie Savage? Come on. He was the NYT Russia Collusion hoax stenographer. He was also responsible for the fake booties story.
The point is that no one used the Steele Dossier in their analysis. Read the emails in the documents that were declassified. They're not discussing anything in the dossier.
It was literally in the ICA and FISA warrants. Your weak attempts to spin that they didn't really use the Steele Dossier isn't working.
Gabby's claim is that the ICA was altered, she points to the House intelligence committee report of 2020. The problem is that the report mentions the Steele dossier but no example of its use as a source is included.

Gabby claims that Obama changed the ICA based on the Dossier and he did not. Brennan didn't rely on the dossier and he didn't lie to Congress because the Dossier was already abandoned months before the December 9 meeting. If you think Obama changed the ICA like Gabby is claiming then-

What conclusions or decisions were based on the Steele dossier as a source?

So I'm asking you, what conclusions or decisions were based on the Steele dossier as a source?
You can keep asking that question over and over like it somehow cancels out the Hillary created Steele Dossier being included in the ICA and FISA warrants.
 
Just keep in mind the NYT is one of the major pushers of Russia Russia Russia and is heavily biased as a result. The implications of the documents the govt has declassified being accurate makes the NYT look really bad and corrupt.

using Durhams report isn't proof of anything and there's the gotcha
"It is a well known fact that reality has liberal bias." -- Stephen Colbert

You missed the point of mentioning the Durham report. Durham's objective was to prove that everything regarding Russia was a hoax. He prosecuted several people and all were found not guilty and never brought up the material now being hyped by this administration.
 
You think the NYT that pushed the bullshit Russia collusion narrative, Joe Biden is fine cognitively and Saddam had WMD discredits declassified Obama administration documents? Seriously?
The New York Times is far more reliable than The Federalist, your OP source.

You should take up comedy.
 
CIA officers warned Brennan about the shoddy nature of the sentence fragment, and initially omitted the fragment in the report. But Brennan personally demanded the fragment be included.

The Russia hoax was built on a six-word sentence fragment that entirely lacked context or credibility, according to a report declassified by Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Tulsi Gabbard.

The report makes clear that former President Barack Obama and his jackboots henchmen — former Central Intelligence Agency Director John Brennan, former Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey, and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper — force-fabricated a lie about Russian President Vladimir Putin’s supposed “preference” for then-candidate Donald Trump to win the 2016 election.

With direct interference from Brennan and Obama himself, the Obama administration pushed this narrative as a way to undermine the entire Trump 45 presidency, stripping the American people of the leadership they elected in 2016.

....But the supposed backbone of the report was based on a six-word partial quote described as “one scant, unclear, and unverifiable fragment of a sentence from a single HUMINT [human intelligence] report — published under DCIA Brennan’s December 2016 order.”

The words were “whose victory Putin was counting on.”

The full quote is “Putin had made this decision [to leak DNC emails] after he had come to believe that the Democratic nominee had better odds of winning the U.S. presidential election, and that [candidate Trump], whose victory Putin was counting on, most likely would not be able to pull off a convincing victory” (bold in original).

The report states that those six words, found between commas in the longer sentence, could not have been properly understood and that “a senior CIA operations officer said of the fragment, ‘We don’t know what was meant by that’ and ‘five people read it five ways.’”

In addition, that entire quote is suspect because it was sourced from a person with a “strong dislike for Putin” and an “anti-Trump bias.” There was also “no other intelligence corroborating it.”



Are you kidding me? That’s it? That’s the only classified intelligence they had and no one knew what it meant?

It’s not surprising that they added the dossier to the ICA. They had nothing.
Is anyone surprised? What you thought these men wouldn't cheat to maintain power? Keep it for themselves and keep it for the party. The hate of Trump, the love of power simply let them convinced themselves that the lie was justified.
The Federalist as a source.....

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And who determines these ratings? The left. If it doesn't agree with the far, far left then it's a far right extreme source or idea.
 
Jeez, we were wrong about Obama and the fake Russian hoax!

All this time, we thought our glorious president made the entire thing up, based on nothing. At least now we know it was based on some solid, good old fashioned intelligence work.
It was based on a fragment of a sentence from a questionable source! Traitor.
 
"It is a well known fact that reality has liberal bias." -- Stephen Colbert
😆 Who thinks the liberal hack Colbert is an authority on bias?
You missed the point of mentioning the Durham report. Durham's objective was to prove that everything regarding Russia was a hoax. He prosecuted several people and all were found not guilty and never brought up the material now being hyped by this administration.
Barr didn't allow Durham to look into everything. Barr was running cover for the FBI & the DOJ.
 
Who cares? Are you insinuating doing business in Russia or lying about it is illegal?

It has nothing to do with the Hillary created Russia collusion hoax.

Except that it means there's no hoax. He wanted to lie because he wants to hide his relationship with Putin. Clinton was right, his allegiance is questionable.
 
"It is a well known fact that reality has liberal bias." -- Stephen Colbert

You missed the point of mentioning the Durham report. Durham's objective was to prove that everything regarding Russia was a hoax. He prosecuted several people and all were found not guilty and never brought up the material now being hyped by this administration.
Fact: Trump Russian Collusion was a fabricated story developed and pushed by the left, specifically, the Hillary campaign, the Obama administration and his DOJ, CIA, and FBI. Later Biden and his circle would continue this. The lies about Trump, Covid, Russian Collusion all eminated from these sources and were pushed by them largely with the help of the biased left media.
The Durham report pointed this out but never went far enough in denouncing or laying blame when it should have come from. I see Durham as being just another guy too embedded in the swamp to fully condemn or expose it.
All the "fake news" pushed by democrats and liberal media was based on anonymous or highly partisan "sources". Take a molehill and make a mountain out of it. That's the democrat strategy. They lied about Collusion, they fabricated stories with the aid of Trump haters and got the media to push them. When proven wrong or suspicious they usually continued to push the story anyway. When not they simply concocted a new but similar line of attack.
Currently the democrat party is in complete disarray, but they continue to come up with Trump hate stories as the most consistent message coming from them. Democrats lost the 2024 election because of flawed candidates and policies. Specifically the border position and transgender stances. The other failure was a message by democrats to tell us that what we all saw with our own eyes and heard with our own ears was simply us being stupid.
 
How would I do that when it's behind a paywall?

Also, Charlie Savage? Come on. He was the NYT Russia Collusion hoax stenographer. He was also responsible for the fake booties story.
You haven't said why it's fake, and you haven't read it.

It was literally in the ICA and FISA warrants. Your weak attempts to spin that they didn't really use the Steele Dossier isn't working.

Then if that's true you would be able to show what conclusion was based on the Steele Dossier as a source?

You can keep asking that question over and over like it somehow cancels out the Hillary created Steele Dossier being included in the ICA and FISA warrants.

You are unable to say what conclusions or decisions were made based on the Steele dossier as a source. That's the Gabby claim. That the hoax was based on the Steele dossier. If that's true, then you can say which conclusion was based on the Steele dossier as a source.

So, what conclusions were based on the Steele dossier as a source?
 
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