Refugee screaming 'Allahu akbar' attacks German train passengers with axe...

[truthatallcost]

And had he had access to guns, he could have harmed far more. It's rather a moot point.

Now for the question no one wants to answer; why did he have access to Germany?

 

[truthatallcost]

Not follow US style policing that's for sure.

France is supposedly going to have 38,000 military personnel patrolling their streets. The US isn't even that drastic.

 

[joG]

Well that's unfortunate. But if the Germans want to live without guns then who are we to stop them? I can care less about the Germans when it comes to that; I've got enough problems here in America with gun banners.

But this would make a much better scene. Can't you see the wild eyes blazing fanatic crazy a hatchet in one hand and a knife in the other going for the little Hong Kong family.... James Steward steps out of the connecting door an "Blamm!".

Years later John Wayne....

 

[Port & Starboard]

The Euro's continue on with their anti semitic views, but still find ways to make excuses for their violent Muslim guests.

Thank god that it wasn't a axe wielding Jew, or all hell would break loose.

Like "Don Imus" would say:

You just can't make this stuff up!

 

[Infinite Chaos]

France is supposedly going to have 38,000 military personnel patrolling their streets. The US isn't even that drastic.

~ Nothing wrong with US policing, but the Eurodopes I was referring to, were the 40 that had to be treated for shock! Bunch of damn sheep fed Nannyism all their lives!! ~

There's everything wrong in the world with US policing, we don't have shootings & killings of innocent people at anywhere near the rate you do. Put all of Europe together (400 million) against the US (300 million) and you will notice something is wrong.

 

[truthatallcost]

There's everything wrong in the world with US policing, we don't have shootings & killings of innocent people at anywhere near the rate you do. Put all of Europe together (400 million) against the US (300 million) and you will notice something is wrong.

This is a worthy topic for another thread. If you want to discuss why the US is so violent in general compared to the EU I'd be open to discuss. That's why the police are more violent here BTW, because they aren't dealing with a bunch of polite Swedes or Swiss on a daily basis.

 

[spud_meister]

Now for the question no one wants to answer; why did he have access to Germany?

Because he's a refugee, and Germany gives refuge to refugees.

 

[coldjoint]

There's everything wrong in the world with US policing, we don't have shootings & killings of innocent people at anywhere near the rate you do. Put all of Europe together (400 million) against the US (300 million) and you will notice something is wrong.

And that has what to do with radical Islam?

 

[truthatallcost]

Because he's a refugee, and Germany gives refuge to refugees.

The vetting process is abysmal. Atheist migrants report having to pretend to pray 5 times a day in order to not draw suspicion from the radicals in their camps fearing violence.

I know that good migrants exist, but far too many bad ones also exist.

 

[spud_meister]

The vetting process is abysmal. Atheist migrants report having to pretend to pray 5 times a day in order to not draw suspicion from the radicals in their camps fearing violence.

I know that good migrants exist, but far too many bad ones also exist.

It's kinda like guns. For all the good gun owners out tgere, there's a minority that give the rest a bad name. You either let everyone own guns, or no-one own guns. Same with refugees, you take them all or you take none, it's pretty much impossible to sort the bad from the good before they do bad.

 

[Manc Skipper]

The vetting process is abysmal. Atheist migrants report having to pretend to pray 5 times a day in order to not draw suspicion from the radicals in their camps fearing violence.

I know that good migrants exist, but far too many bad ones also exist.

Some of us are not so creduous as others.

And there's already a (much less hyperbolic) thread on this.

 

[coldjoint]

Some of us are not so creduous as others.

And there's already a (much less hyperbolic) thread on this.

You mean some of us are apologizing for Islam, would you like to join us?

 

[truthatallcost]

It's kinda like guns. For all the good gun owners out tgere, there's a minority that give the rest a bad name. You either let everyone own guns, or no-one own guns. Same with refugees, you take them all or you take none, it's pretty much impossible to sort the bad from the good before they do bad.

The vetting process is insufficient for both categories.

We already live with high rates of gun violence, why should we also accept a future that includes regular terrorist attacks?

Racial inclusiveness wasn't sold on the idea that it would make us a more violent society, it was sold to us as making us more diverse.

If diversity means accepting regular terrorist attacks as a part of multiculturalism, then we need to rethink what the f-ck we're doing here.

 

[MickeyW]

There's everything wrong in the world with US policing, we don't have shootings & killings of innocent people at anywhere near the rate you do. Put all of Europe together (400 million) against the US (300 million) and you will notice something is wrong.

Damn right it is, you have plenty of innocent victims, murdered by criminals and terrorists.

Most of our shootings and killings are by gangbangers, not by police or innocent civilians. And thanks to radical Muslims, you guys are catching up .....fast!

 

[MickeyW]

Because he's a refugee, and Germany gives refuge to refugees.

And the crime rate and murder rate is ....soaring! Stupid is as stupid does!

 

[MickeyW]

It's kinda like guns. For all the good gun owners out tgere, there's a minority that give the rest a bad name. You either let everyone own guns, or no-one own guns. Same with refugees, you take them all or you take none, it's pretty much impossible to sort the bad from the good before they do bad.

No, not the same at all. You are talking about refugees, given asylum with the "permission" of govt. vs American citizens that have a right to be gun owners without any "permission" from the govt.!!
Apples..........and Oranges!

The vetting process is insufficient for both categories.

We already live with high rates of gun violence, why should we also accept a future that includes regular terrorist attacks?

Racial inclusiveness wasn't sold on the idea that it would make us a more violent society, it was sold to us as making us more diverse.

If diversity means accepting regular terrorist attacks as a part of multiculturalism, then we need to rethink what the f-ck we're doing here.

Exactly! STOP immigration...NOW!

 

[Infinite Chaos]

And that has what to do with radical Islam?

Were you following the conversation? For one, radical islam is not committing almost daily crimes. And by the way, now you've moved to "radical islam" as opposed to islam in general, which sect would that be from in European context?

~ Exactly! STOP immigration...NOW!

I'll ask you to remember that next time you feel like a trip to Europe.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Damn right it is, you have plenty of innocent victims, murdered by criminals and terrorists.

And some of those are wearing blue uniforms.

Most of our shootings and killings are by gangbangers, not by police or innocent civilians. And thanks to radical Muslims, you guys are catching up .....fast!

Nowhere near as fast and we are actually safer now in Western Europe than we were in the 1970s. YOU however are killing more of each other than ever before and almost making a national sport out of it.

 

[truthatallcost]

Nowhere near as fast and we are actually safer now in Western Europe than we were in the 1970s. YOU however are killing more of each other than ever before and almost making a national sport out of it.

I've seen that link before. Yes I destroyed that one many months ago, lets go for round 2.

You are so in debt to my ancestors, the Irish, that you should pay royalties to them! You use figures that for the most part are inflated because of the IRA. Without them, you wouldn't have an argument.

90% of that list is made up of IRA killings.

The IRA never killed anyone outside of the UK. Islamic terrorists kill people all over Europe.

The iRA also mainly targeted British soldiers, not civilians at a holiday celebration such as Bastille day.

That list is cooked.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

I've seen that link before. Yes I destroyed that one many months ago, lets go for round 2.

You are so in debt to my ancestors, the Irish, that you should pay royalties to them!

Thanks but no thanks for the royalties, I've already faced troubles on the streets of Northern Ireland in the 80's as a British squaddie.

You use figures that for the most part are inflated because of the IRA. Without them, you wouldn't have an argument.

90% of that list is made up of IRA killings.

Baader Meinhof, Basques, Red Brigades etc etc

~ The iRA also mainly targeted British soldiers, not civilians at a holiday celebration such as Bastille day.

That list is cooked.

You were probably never told of the kneecappings, drugs trade, prostitution run by the IRA to develop finances while you had your once a year guiness in Boston when you were donating to NORAID.

Funny, Americans were the greatest supporters of vicious terrorists in those periods, terrorists who murdered over 700 civilians and carried out bombings in Omagh, Eniskillen, Birmingham, Manchester, Warrington - all civilian targets. Secondary bombs were the ones used to target soldiers after the first bombs had done their work on the civilian population.

Funny how nobody claims that one sect of bloody catholic murderers is representative of all christinas though eh?

Anyhow, we're getting off subject from the claim of vast numbers of deaths at the hands of Wahhabi muslims.

 

[Manc Skipper]

No, not the same at all. You are talking about refugees, given asylum with the "permission" of govt. vs American citizens that have a right to be gun owners without any "permission" from the govt.!!
Apples..........and Oranges!



Exactly! STOP immigration...NOW!

He's correct and you are wrong again. The comparison is apt and simplified, but obviously not dumbed down enough.

 

[MickeyW]

And some of those are wearing blue uniforms.

Nowhere near as fast and we are actually safer now in Western Europe than we were in the 1970s. YOU however are killing more of each other than ever before and almost making a national sport out of it.

Most police shootings of anyone, are justified. Murder by cop is extremely rare....contrary to the MSM and brainwashed libs.

By killing each other, you have to mean gangbangers .......and terrorist actions like San Berdoo, Dallas, Baton Rogue, Orlando and Boston. Gang killings make up the majority of murders in the USA. That's fueled by greed and decades of failed liberal policies.

I've seen that link before. Yes I destroyed that one many months ago, lets go for round 2.

You are so in debt to my ancestors, the Irish, that you should pay royalties to them! You use figures that for the most part are inflated because of the IRA. Without them, you wouldn't have an argument.

90% of that list is made up of IRA killings.

The IRA never killed anyone outside of the UK. Islamic terrorists kill people all over Europe.

The iRA also mainly targeted British soldiers, not civilians at a holiday celebration such as Bastille day.

That list is cooked.

Yep.

He's correct and you are wrong again. The comparison is apt and simplified, but obviously not dumbed down enough.

No Manc, I'm not wrong at all, the comparison is at 3rd grade level at best. Apples and oranges.

Why are you so jealous of legal gun owners? Do guns really scare you that much? Being afraid of guns and their owners is a phobia ya know, like fear of heights, water or women.

 

[coldjoint]

Were you following the conversation? For one, radical islam is not committing almost daily crimes. And by the way, now you've moved to "radical islam" as opposed to islam in general, which sect would that be from in European context?



I'll ask you to remember that next time you feel like a trip to Europe.

All Islam as seen in the Koran is radical. Open ended calls for war because of a belief system(ideology) are radical in any civlized society.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Most police shootings of anyone, are justified. Murder by cop is extremely rare....contrary to the MSM and brainwashed libs.

By killing each other, you have to mean gangbangers .......and terrorist actions like San Berdoo, Dallas, Baton Rogue, Orlando and Boston. Gang killings make up the majority of murders in the USA. That's fueled by greed and decades of failed liberal policies.



Yep.



No Manc, I'm not wrong at all, the comparison is at 3rd grade level at best. Apples and oranges.

Why are you so jealous of legal gun owners? Do guns really scare you that much? Being afraid of guns and their owners is a phobia ya know, like fear of heights, water or women.

In any group there are good and bad. That's what he said but you struggle to understnd because he mentioned gunz and he's not alowed to criticise gunz cos you love gunz and want gunz......Somebdy might fwighten you and you need gunz!

 

[Infinite Chaos]

Most police shootings of anyone, are justified. Murder by cop is extremely rare....contrary to the MSM and brainwashed libs.

By killing each other, you have to mean gangbangers .......and terrorist actions like San Berdoo, Dallas, Baton Rogue, Orlando and Boston. Gang killings make up the majority of murders in the USA. That's fueled by greed and decades of failed liberal policies.

As I keep asking some of your police shooting fanboys - why does the US not compare well with other Western countries with both relaxed gun ownership and high migrant populations? Why do their police not end up shooting as many as the US police?