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Refugee screaming 'Allahu akbar' attacks German train passengers with axe...

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An axe-man who stormed a passenger train and hacked at terrified passengers while shouting "Allahu Akbar" has been identified as a 17-year-old Afghan who entered Germany as a lone refugee.

The attacker was identified by stunned government officials after a huge investigation was launched just hours after the bloody attack exploded.
The teenager was shot dead as he attempted to leave the train having injured a number of people

Germany train axe attack: Afghan teenage refugee shouting 'Allahu Akbar' goes on bloody rampage hacking passengers - Mirror Online


Another case of no self defense possible, because of Gun Free Zones! Shot dead by armed police after the carnage was over!

And why...........is this govt. official stunned????? There should be no surprises or shock any longer. It's not a term of endearment....it's attempted murder! Makes me really want to embrace this bull****!
 

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Well that's unfortunate. But if the Germans want to live without guns then who are we to stop them? I can care less about the Germans when it comes to that; I've got enough problems here in America with gun banners.
 

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If only they'd all had axes, right? All it would have needed was a good guy with an axe...

I he'd had a gun, the three wouldn't be critically ill, but dead, and many of the fourteen being treated for shock along with them.
 

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Well that's unfortunate. But if the Germans want to live without guns then who are we to stop them? I can care less about the Germans when it comes to that; I've got enough problems here in America with gun banners.

Exactly, what they do over there is their business. It's why I have no comments on the lack of guns amongst certain units of English policemen, that's their culture, their way.

But in my country? We gonna have guns!
 

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An axe-man who stormed a passenger train and hacked at terrified passengers while shouting "Allahu Akbar" .....................~
Witnesses questioned do not confirm this.

Not that it's unlikely.
 

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If only they'd all had axes, right? All it would have needed was a good guy with an axe...

I he'd had a gun, the three wouldn't be critically ill, but dead, and many of the fourteen being treated for shock along with them.

Pretty cavalier about a serious problem, why is that? Are you just going to let Islamists kill until they tire off it? And joke about what they use to do it?
 

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If only they'd all had axes, right? All it would have needed was a good guy with an axe...

I he'd had a gun, the three wouldn't be critically ill, but dead, and many of the fourteen being treated for shock along with them.
seeing how I always have one to grind with somebody or other, I never leave the house without. :mrgreen:
 

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Another dose of "diversity", provided by Angela Merkel.
 

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He must have been a total wuss, or maybe the axe was dull as his wits.... a decent sharp 1-hand axe will part flesh and shatter bone with ease.
 

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If only they'd all had axes, right? All it would have needed was a good guy with an axe...

I he'd had a gun, the three wouldn't be critically ill, but dead, and many of the fourteen being treated for shock along with them.



Actually yeah, an armed citizen with a weapon and a modicum of moral courage could have stopped him before he harmed many people. It's a LOT harder to stop an armed attacker when all you got is skin.
 

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He must have been a total wuss, or maybe the axe was dull as his wits.... a decent sharp 1-hand axe will part flesh and shatter bone with ease.

That si why my theory is still drugs What else a) make someone want to do this and b) fail so spectacularly?
 

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Actually yeah, an armed citizen with a weapon and a modicum of moral courage could have stopped him before he harmed many people. It's a LOT harder to stop an armed attacker when all you got is skin.

Well he did not really harm any people anyways. All it takes is one or two people to charge him or just stab him in the face with keys.
 

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Well that's unfortunate. But if the Germans want to live without guns then who are we to stop them? I can care less about the Germans when it comes to that; I've got enough problems here in America with gun banners.

Agreed.

If only they'd all had axes, right? All it would have needed was a good guy with an axe...

I he'd had a gun, the three wouldn't be critically ill, but dead, and many of the fourteen being treated for shock along with them.

You must live in Utopialand.

Witnesses questioned do not confirm this.

Not that it's unlikely.

Yep, it is.

Pretty cavalier about a serious problem, why is that? Are you just going to let Islamists kill until they tire off it? And joke about what they use to do it?

Idiots never get it until it's too late. That's why the world is full of dead or mangled Utopian victims.

Another dose of "diversity", provided by Angela Merkel.

Exactly.

He must have been a total wuss, or maybe the axe was dull as his wits.... a decent sharp 1-hand axe will part flesh and shatter bone with ease.

Yes it will, I've chopped off the heads of plenty of geese and ducks...cleanly, efficiently and with no malice aforethought. ;)

After I shot them in the head first, with a handgun.
 

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That si why my theory is still drugs What else a) make someone want to do this and b) fail so spectacularly?

Yep, weed will do that to ya....

Well he did not really harm any people anyways. All it takes is one or two people to charge him or just stab him in the face with keys.

Well damn, I guess the police really overreacted!

"Early reports claim he has left at least three people fighting for their lives, and a fourth with minor injuries.

At least 14 other passengers were being treated for shock."


Eurodopes....whatcha gonna do! :roll:
 

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Witnesses questioned do not confirm this.

Not that it's unlikely.

Mr Herrmann said authorities were looking into reports that the attacker had yelled out "an exclamation". Some witnesses quoted by German media said they had heard him shout "Allahu akbar" ("God Is Great") during the attack.

Not that it matters much.

In May, a man reportedly shouting "Allahu akbar" killed one person and wounded three others in a knife attack at a railway station near the German city of Munich.

He was later sent to a psychiatric hospital and authorities said they found no links to Islamic extremism.

Germany axe attack: Assault on train in Wuerzburg - BBC News
 

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Germany axe attack: Assault on train in Wuerzburg - BBC News

Good luck bringing your car keys to an axe fight! :lamo

You shouldn't underestimate the power of keys. Especially car keys because they tend to be longer and sharper. They make great improvised stabbing weapons. Since an ax is quite possibly the worst murder weapon possible all someone would have to do is get close and punch him in the neck or eyes with keys, considering it is an ax in a German train car. That will incapacitate pretty much anyone and you will also have other people mobbing the attacker as well most likely. Not to mention that he would be completely defenseless from behind. This is part of the reason self-defense should be taught in schools.
 

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Don't take the '17-year-old' bit too seriously. In Sweden thousands of 'refugees' in their twenties claim to be 'children' for enhanced benefits and fast track 'family reunification'. I understand the position is similar in Germany. Here false claims about age go unquestioned because not to automatically believe them would be to 'harm the refugee's personal integrity'. Swedish naiveity is boundless and deeply entrenched amongst the political class.
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The Germans and other Europeans are the ones who foolishly let these Islamist sons of whores into their countries. They called the tune, and they are paying the piper. We have about two million self-identified Muslims here in the U.S., and that is more than enough. Some of the Somalis who had settled in Minnesota--and I doubt they were all that rare an exception among Muslim aliens living here--had no intention of becoming good Americans. Instead, they decided to return to their sandpit to train for jihad, apparently not realizing that U.S. officials had been following their moves. In a couple cases I read about--and there may be more--these rats were tracked to jihadist training camps In Somalia, where they were killed by U.S.forces. Good riddance, but it would have been a lot better never to have let them into the U.S. in the first place.
 

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You shouldn't underestimate the power of keys. Especially car keys because they tend to be longer and sharper. They make great improvised stabbing weapons. Since an ax is quite possibly the worst murder weapon possible all someone would have to do is get close and punch him in the neck or eyes with keys, considering it is an ax in a German train car. That will incapacitate pretty much anyone and you will also have other people mobbing the attacker as well most likely. Not to mention that he would be completely defenseless from behind. This is part of the reason self-defense should be taught in schools.

You are correct about his six being exposed, but bringing keys to an axe fight....it so silly as to be hilarious!
To use keys, you need to jab or lunge...........right into the swing of the axe. A gun is a far better defender of people, that's why they were invented. ;) Keys are for unlocking things, not fighting an axeman. Keys "might" work on a rapist.....

Yes, self defense needs to be taught in schools and so does gun safety...as well as care and cleaning. It teaches respect for equipment and discipline. Two things sadly lacking in the youth of today.

Not follow US style policing that's for sure.

Nothing wrong with US policing, but the Eurodopes I was referring to, were the 40 that had to be treated for shock! Bunch of damn sheep fed Nannyism all their lives!!

Don't take the '17-year-old' bit too seriously. In Sweden thousands of 'refugees' in their twenties claim to be 'children' for enhanced benefits and fast track 'family reunification'. I understand the position is similar in Germany. Here false claims about age go unquestioned because not to automatically believe them would be to 'harm the refugee's personal integrity'. Swedish naiveity is boundless and deeply entrenched amongst the political class.
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Sad state of affairs and getting worse. The EU socialists are as stupid as ever.

The Germans and other Europeans are the ones who foolishly let these Islamist sons of whores into their countries. They called the tune, and they are paying the piper. We have about two million self-identified Muslims here in the U.S., and that is more than enough. Some of the Somalis who had settled in Minnesota--and I doubt they were all that rare an exception among Muslim aliens living here--had no intention of becoming good Americans. Instead, they decided to return to their sandpit to train for jihad, apparently not realizing that U.S. officials had been following their moves. In a couple cases I read about--and there may be more--these rats were tracked to jihadist training camps In Somalia, where they were killed by U.S.forces. Good riddance, but it would have been a lot better never to have let them into the U.S. in the first place.

Agreed...and Trump is right!
 
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Actually yeah, an armed citizen with a weapon and a modicum of moral courage could have stopped him before he harmed many people. It's a LOT harder to stop an armed attacker when all you got is skin.

And had he had access to guns, he could have harmed far more. It's rather a moot point.
 

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German train attack: Afghan refugee 'had IS flag in room'

"A hand-painted flag of so-called Islamic State has been found in the room of an Afghan refugee accused of carrying out an axe and knife attack on a southern German train, officials say."

Fallen.

Lets not rush to judgement here. Maybe he didn't eat lunch that day, had low blood sugar, and that's why he did it. Or maybe he was playing Pokemon Go and he thought he was hunting Pokemons and not people. It really can't be what it obviously is.
 
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