Reagan’s Atrocities

[RF667799]

Gee bud, thanks for proving my point yet again.

For someone who refers to "sputtering" so much, you should at least understand that's all those condemnations of Urgent Fury were. They mattered nothing. It's as if they didn't exist, out in the real world.

 

[Tigerace117]

Yes! Those people driving by my house and refusing to abide by my speed limit, are certainly violating my law!

Oh look, more sobbing because you don’t like having to face the fact international law exists and the US can’t just do whatever it wants. Boo ****ing hoo.

 

[Tigerace117]

For someone who refers to "sputtering" so much, you should at least understand that's all those condemnations of Urgent Fury were. They mattered nothing. It's as if they didn't exist, out in the real world.

In the real world the US was too busy helping a vicious dictator in Guatemala carry out a genocide.

 

[Antiwar]

@Tigerace117's position is good. Those arguing against it- their positions aren't good. One of them might by trying to hide behind "history."

 

[RF667799]

Oh look, more sobbing because you don’t like having to face the fact international law exists and the US can’t just do whatever it wants. Boo ****ing hoo.

You have no legitimate response, so we get more claims of "sobbing".

 

[RF667799]

In the real world the US was too busy helping a vicious dictator in Guatemala carry out a genocide.

In the real world, the invasion and subsequent operations carried on as if the self righteous condemnation of some nations was just so much gas. Which it was. They obviously hadn't the authority to enforce their "condemnation".

 

[Fledermaus]

Says the guy still whining over me not indulging in his frantic attempts to avoid the actual subject of the thread.

More childish stupid talk about "whining".

Try discussing like an adult.

 

[Tigerace117]

You have no legitimate response, so we get more claims of "sobbing".

You still can’t bring yourself to condemn the genocide, so we get the silly fantasy that international law just doesn’t exist

 

[Tigerace117]

In the real world, the invasion and subsequent operations carried on as if the self righteous condemnation of some nations was just so much gas. Which it was. They obviously hadn't the authority to enforce their "condemnation".

In the real world, gleefully cheering because even our allies thought our invasion was a blatant farce is pathetic.

 

[Fledermaus]

And still with the speeches.

Nobody cares bud.

Actually they are a well respected poster.

While you post childishly.

 

[Fledermaus]

In the real world, gleefully cheering because even our allies thought our invasion was a blatant farce is pathetic.

Quote anyone "gleefully cheering".

Oh, that's right. You can't.

As usual. All childish accusation. Zero backing up.

 

[Fledermaus]

For someone who refers to "sputtering" so much, you should at least understand that's all those condemnations of Urgent Fury were. They mattered nothing. It's as if they didn't exist, out in the real world.

The Reagan administration in the U.S. launched a military intervention following receipt of a formal appeal for help from the Organisation of Eastern Caribbean States. In addition, the Governor-General of Grenada Paul Scoon secretly signaled he would also support outside intervention, but he put off signing a letter of invitation until 26 October.

Looks like we were invited. The Communists of course disagree.

 

[Tigerace117]

The Communists were the ones who got overthrown in the first place. Maurice Bishop named one of his kids Vladimir Lenin.

Duh.

And btw, that is ignoring the fact that even Margaret Thatcher thought the invasion was shady.

 

[Fledermaus]

The Communists were the ones who got overthrown in the first place. Maurice Bishop named one of his kids Vladimir Lenin.

You said something?

 

[Tigerace117]

I pointed out the actual history of Grenada.

You were going on about “the communists” as if the government that got overthrown wasn’t already communist in the first place.

 

[RF667799]

The Reagan administration in the U.S. launched a military intervention following receipt of a formal appeal for help from the Organisation of Eastern Caribbean States. In addition, the Governor-General of Grenada Paul Scoon secretly signaled he would also support outside intervention, but he put off signing a letter of invitation until 26 October.

Looks like we were invited. The Communists of course disagree.

Our team was there to supply and help train the "soldiers" of the Caribbean Peacekeeping Force. Scare quotes, because except for the Jamaicans and Antiguans if I recall, those island nations only had police forces.

 

[RF667799]

I pointed out the actual history of Grenada.

You were going on about “the communists” as if the government that got overthrown wasn’t already communist in the first place.

He said nothing like that.

It's amazing how much of what you criticize only exists in your imagination. Like all the sobbing and crying and wailing and cowering you constantly fantasize about.

 

[Fledermaus]

I pointed out the actual history of Grenada.

You were going on about “the communists” as if the government that got overthrown wasn’t already communist in the first place.

The People's Revolutionary Government (PRG) was proclaimed on 13 March 1979 after the Marxist–Leninist New Jewel Movement overthrew the government of Grenada in a revolution, making Grenada the only socialist state within the Commonwealth. The government suspended the constitution and ruled by decree until a factional conflict broke out, culminating in an invasion by the United States on 25 October 1983.

The date of the invasion is now a national holiday in Grenada called Thanksgiving Day, commemorating the freeing of several political prisoners who were subsequently elected to office. A truth and reconciliation commission was launched in 2000 to re-examine some of the controversies of the era; in particular, the commission made an unsuccessful attempt to find Bishop's body, which had been disposed of at Austin's order and never found.

Communists deposed and the people of Grenada cheered.

 

[Tigerace117]

He said nothing like that.

It's amazing how much of what you criticize only exists in your imagination. Like all the sobbing and crying and wailing and cowering you constantly fantasize about.

“ Looks like we were invited. The Communists of course disagree.” Is what he stated.

“The communists” were the ones running Grenada from the start and had been for years.

The people of Grenada were protesting in the streets over the imprisonment of Maurice Bishop, the COMMUNIST leader of their country. This lead to Bishop’s execution.

“ In 1983, disputes among the party leadership occurred. A military junta group within the party tried to make Bishop either step down or agree to a power-sharing agreement with Deputy Prime Minister Bernard Coard.[10] Bishop rejected these proposals and was eventually deposed and placed under house arrest during the first week of October 1983 by Coard. Large public demonstrations throughout the island demanded Bishop's freedom and restoration to power. When Bernard Coard arrested Bishop, protesters numbering 30,000 on an island of 100,000 gathered, and even the guards joined the protest, resulting in the release of Bishop. But Bishop, knowing the determination of the Coard faction, confided in a journalist: "I am a dead man."[10]

During one demonstration, the crowd freed Bishop from house arrest. First in a truck, then by car, Bishop made his way to the army headquarters at Fort Rupert (known today as Fort George). After he arrived, a military force was dispatched from Fort Frederick to Fort Rupert. Bishop and seven others, including cabinet ministers, were captured. Then a four-man People's Revolutionary Army firing squad executed Bishop, three members of his Cabinet and four others by machine-gunning them.”

Maurice Bishop - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You lot know literally nothing about the country and it’s hilarious. The people

Almost as comical, in fact, as your inability to condemn genocide the US helped carry out.

 

[RF667799]

The People's Revolutionary Government (PRG) was proclaimed on 13 March 1979 after the Marxist–Leninist New Jewel Movement overthrew the government of Grenada in a revolution, making Grenada the only socialist state within the Commonwealth. The government suspended the constitution and ruled by decree until a factional conflict broke out, culminating in an invasion by the United States on 25 October 1983.

The date of the invasion is now a national holiday in Grenada called Thanksgiving Day, commemorating the freeing of several political prisoners who were subsequently elected to office. A truth and reconciliation commission was launched in 2000 to re-examine some of the controversies of the era; in particular, the commission made an unsuccessful attempt to find Bishop's body, which had been disposed of at Austin's order and never found.

Communists deposed and the people of Grenada cheered.

Brutal communists. They executed Bishop, his girlfriend, and several members of his administration. They machinegunned protesting crowds. They declared martial law, and imposed a shoot on sight curfew.

 

[Tigerace117]

Brutal communists. They executed Bishop, his girlfriend, and several members of his administration. They machinegunned protesting crowds. They declared martial law, and imposed a shoot on sight curfew.

Bishop was a committed communist himself. As previously stated, the regime which overthrew him were hardliners who felt he wasn’t moving fast enough in advancing the revolution.

Oh, and btw, Bishop refused to hold elections himself.

 

[Oozlefinch]

I figured you'd protest. I'm not going to bother.

I asked you to point out where I was "political", you are not going to bother.

*shrugs*

So predictable.

 

[RF667799]

“ Looks like we were invited. The Communists of course disagree.” Is what he stated.

“The communists” were the ones running Grenada from the start and had been for years.

The people of Grenada were protesting in the streets over the imprisonment of Maurice Bishop, the COMMUNIST leader of their country. This lead to Bishop’s execution.

“ In 1983, disputes among the party leadership occurred. A military junta group within the party tried to make Bishop either step down or agree to a power-sharing agreement with Deputy Prime Minister Bernard Coard.[10] Bishop rejected these proposals and was eventually deposed and placed under house arrest during the first week of October 1983 by Coard. Large public demonstrations throughout the island demanded Bishop's freedom and restoration to power. When Bernard Coard arrested Bishop, protesters numbering 30,000 on an island of 100,000 gathered, and even the guards joined the protest, resulting in the release of Bishop. But Bishop, knowing the determination of the Coard faction, confided in a journalist: "I am a dead man."[10]

During one demonstration, the crowd freed Bishop from house arrest. First in a truck, then by car, Bishop made his way to the army headquarters at Fort Rupert (known today as Fort George). After he arrived, a military force was dispatched from Fort Frederick to Fort Rupert. Bishop and seven others, including cabinet ministers, were captured. Then a four-man People's Revolutionary Army firing squad executed Bishop, three members of his Cabinet and four others by machine-gunning them.”

Maurice Bishop - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You lot know literally nothing about the country and it’s hilarious. The people

Almost as comical, in fact, as your inability to condemn genocide the US helped carry out.

4 years and 7 months? What was it you said about South Vietnam? Something like if they couldn't keep their country for but a few years, they were illegitimate anyway?

 

[Tigerace117]

4 years and 7 months? What was it you said about South Vietnam? Something like if they couldn't keep their country for but a few years, they were illegitimate anyway?

Gee bud, was Grenada the beneficiary of twenty years of large scale military training and vast amounts of tanks, aircraft, planes, warships, and everything in between?

No?

Then there’s no equivalence

Way to cower and run away from the fact that Bishop was a communist, and one deeply beloved by the people.

 

[RF667799]

“ Looks like we were invited. The Communists of course disagree.” Is what he stated.

“The communists” were the ones running Grenada from the start and had been for years.

The people of Grenada were protesting in the streets over the imprisonment of Maurice Bishop, the COMMUNIST leader of their country. This lead to Bishop’s execution.

“ In 1983, disputes among the party leadership occurred. A military junta group within the party tried to make Bishop either step down or agree to a power-sharing agreement with Deputy Prime Minister Bernard Coard.[10] Bishop rejected these proposals and was eventually deposed and placed under house arrest during the first week of October 1983 by Coard. Large public demonstrations throughout the island demanded Bishop's freedom and restoration to power. When Bernard Coard arrested Bishop, protesters numbering 30,000 on an island of 100,000 gathered, and even the guards joined the protest, resulting in the release of Bishop. But Bishop, knowing the determination of the Coard faction, confided in a journalist: "I am a dead man."[10]

During one demonstration, the crowd freed Bishop from house arrest. First in a truck, then by car, Bishop made his way to the army headquarters at Fort Rupert (known today as Fort George). After he arrived, a military force was dispatched from Fort Frederick to Fort Rupert. Bishop and seven others, including cabinet ministers, were captured. Then a four-man People's Revolutionary Army firing squad executed Bishop, three members of his Cabinet and four others by machine-gunning them.”

Maurice Bishop - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You lot know literally nothing about the country and it’s hilarious. The people

Almost as comical, in fact, as your inability to condemn genocide the US helped carry out.

You didn't refute anything that was said. You cut and pasted from an online source and proclaimed yourself supreme authority. No wonder you think proclaiming something is law, is the same as it really being law.