- Joined
- Nov 11, 2011
- Messages
- 12,895
- Reaction score
- 2,909
- Gender
- Undisclosed
- Political Leaning
- Slightly Conservative
I'm not sure such is a valid assumption
The fact is that any animosity black people feel towards white people is not based in racism, but in frustration with the way that a white dominated society has treated them.
This is an important point. Racism is often talked about now almost exclusively as a matter of an individual problem. It's also talked about rather simplistically as something that is only evident when people utter certain racial slurs or belong to groups like the KKK. The most significant form of racism is the kind that dominates institutions - the kind that affects people on a large, society-wide scale. No such type of racism exists against white people. Racism against white Americans - if it exists - would be based on an individual, rather than structural, level.I think the mistake of making individual racism the most important aspect of racism is also made by liberals.
I doubt ANY black person nowerdays really cares about some tiny KKK backwoods group of poor whire rural people having BBQs talking about how they hate black people, it doesn't effect their lives, what does affect their lives are things like workplace discrimination.
It's a lot deeper than just "are individual blacks racist or individual whites." It's institutions and power dynamics.
How exactly do you untangle that bolded from the oppression and violence visited on blacks by whites in this country, starting four hundred years ago and continuing to today? If there were groups of blacks attacking Asians, I'd say you had a point. But there aren't. "No reason other than they are white" includes all of the benefits that whites have obtained by ordering society for our benefit and trampling on blacks to get there. If you think that just because you never owned any slaves that you exist in a racial vacuum, then you're very very deep in denial. Until being born black doesn't vastly increase the chance to spend one's life in poverty, to be locked up in prison for crimes that whites commit and aren't imprisoned for, or to die younger, then there is no position of race neutrality in this country.
why is a group that most of Europe oppressed for centuries, culminating with millions of them being exterminated now the most overrepresented group in places such as the US senate, The US Supreme Court, and Harvard Law School?
This is an important point. Racism is often talked about now almost exclusively as a matter of an individual problem. It's also talked about rather simplistically as something that is only evident when people utter certain racial slurs or belong to groups like the KKK. The most significant form of racism is the kind that dominates institutions - the kind that affects people on a large, society-wide scale. No such type of racism exists against white people. Racism against white Americans - if it exists - would be based on an individual, rather than structural, level.
It's more than that. A lot more.
And to be honest, I know places where they do get together and do just that. Again, not saying it's anywhere her a majority if whites, but it dies happen.
:shrug: I've been denied service due to my race and threatened for being in the housing I was in for the same.
I will need more than your word, and you'll have to show they are comparable to the rest of the nation.You are so wrong about that its pathetic. Out here in California racism of all stripes is routinely practiced mainly by the "minority" populations. For example in the transportation and logistics industry Mexicans essentially have a lock on all AG transport. Basically the only non Mexicans in that sector are those that were there before. Getting in after is NOT gona happen. In NC there is a city with so much racial strife its basically divided into thirds. You don't go into the other "races" sides without harassment. Its an extreme example mind you as I that particular city is the only one I have been to that was that way, I have been all over the United States, all lower forty eight, and that was by far the most openly blatant city about that sort of thing. It was so bad that people wouldn't take my money and refused me service unless they found out I was from elsewhere. The local Waffle House where ate at called me their token white boy. They were nice enough AFTER they figured I wasn't from around there.
You mean we have places where people assume that their employment, housing or service was denied due to race.......
And it doesn't happen the other way around? Apparently you've never tried to be a white guy getting a hair cut in the ghetto.
Oh really? Where are these "places" and what exactly do they do?
You should visit Holly Springs Mississippi. You'll find a white restaurant and a black one. Your find a black public school and a white private school. You'll find white who won't hire blacks.
While I'm sure you wouldn't exaggerate, two things: 1) not by your landlord 2) not in the numbers minorities have been. Not even in the same universe.
You should visit Holly Springs Mississippi. You'll find a white restaurant and a black one. Your find a black public school and a white private school. You'll find white who won't hire blacks.
You should visit Holly Springs Mississippi. You'll find a white restaurant and a black one. Your find a black public school and a white private school. You'll find white who won't hire blacks.
:shrug: you should listen to black women discuss a white woman who has married a black man.
yeah that' s huge city where the policies impact thousands
no, not by my landlord - simply by everyone around me. I was allowed to rent the apartment, and the rest of the neighborhood made quite clear that gringos weren't welcome. It turned into an armed confrontation, once, and after that we slept with guns next to our beds, but never any actual violence.
And no, not in the historical numbers that has happened to blacks. Which, however, is irrelevant. The poll didn't ask who was more racist over the course of American history - it asked who was more racist today. The 1960s are immaterial to the discussion.
:shrug: you should listen to black women discuss a white woman who has married a black man.
She where to find it. I answered. We also have a manger up here who refused to hire an experienced African American, but hired an unqualified high school student. At our Walmart, a manger said he quit before he hired a woman. Speaking of Walmart, didn't they have to settle a suit fir just that. We can link many examples if you care to dispute this.
She where to find it. I answered. We also have a manger up here who refused to hire an experienced African American, but hired an unqualified high school student. At our Walmart, a manger said he quit before he hired a woman. Speaking of Walmart, didn't they have to settle a suit fir just that. We can link many examples if you care to dispute this.
I find that hard to believe since it's illegal. Segregation is illegal.
A manger did that? I thought they were only active around Christmastime? :mrgreen:
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?