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Ah. I guess I'm out too then. :lol:
They are unless you have smelly feet. When my son was small, I cut the feet off of the feety pajamas because they stunk so bad in those plastic feeties.
I look at it this way:hahahaha nice
I dont know will they have a zipper int he front or flap in the back?
if so that maybe to reveling and it could cause a normal sane man to just rape you!!!!
you know since real men are just mentally inept sex animals that cant control themselves lol
it such insane logic to even think such nonsense that clothes have any real impact lol
I wouldn't kick a girl out of bed for wearing them, but the are not exactly sexy pajama-grams.Those actually look warm and comfy.I seriously would wear those when it's really cold out.
I look at it this way:
Clothes may in part attract the attention of a rapist, but by no means are they the cause of rape. That's all on the rapist.
Ah. I guess I'm out too then. :lol:
Stink foot? :lol: Why are men so smelly anyway?
[I wouldn't kick a girl out of bed for wearing them, but the are not exactly sexy pajama-grams.
Hey! They are soft and fuzzy and irresistible! :lol: Just imagine what would happen if a woman wore those out to the club! :shock:
You women know you love it. :mrgreen:
The non-consensual hug rate would shoot through the roof! :shock:
Yes, love it when a guy takes off his shoes and it smells like an animal died in them. :lol:
Awww! That was adorable Gathomas!
I thought you were the one arguing that what a girl wears doesn't matter.:dohHey! They are soft and fuzzy and irresistible! :lol: Just imagine what would happen if a woman wore those out to the club! :shock:
I thought you were the one arguing that what a girl wears doesn't matter.:doh
I dunno man, I actually appreciate the "dressed down" look. It's harder to pull off more conservative dress and still be smokin' hot and I've seen a few ladies who could pull it off, they were so sexy that they could have won a guy's attraction in a burka.
To me, anyone can show skin and dress provocatively but it's kind of like anything else, the better the quality the less you have to advertise. One girl I fell for hard years ago(she's married now so moving along) could pull off an off the rack Walmart dress when other women were blowing their paychecks on expensive stuff to go out, she was THE center of the room in moderate clothes and just an amazing person. BTW, she chose to dress down, her entire family is connected politically and economically in this state(and she chooses not to brag).
I bought my sweetheart some of those cozy hoodie-footie PJs.They are unless you have smelly feet. When my son was small, I cut the feet off of the feety pajamas because they stunk so bad in those plastic feeties.
I look at it this way:
Clothes may in part attract the attention of a rapist, but by no means are they the cause of rape. That's all on the rapist.
I fought tooth and nail for that one, but could never figure out what was missing to make it official. That's life though.It depends on the personality that's why there's so many different styles of dress. But I agree that a modest look can be more appealing, causing you to focus more on the entire package.
Sounds like you let one slip away? Done that too many times myself. In my experience, it's the ones you initially misjudge as bitchy, floozy, loud or some other unappealing trait that turn out to be, "more than meets the eye".
Like in that Stuebenville case. That attack happened at a coach's house. While he was home. I just don't see how he would not know that some girl was getting raped in his basement.I think it's really sad that more people don't do anything when a girl is being taken advantage like that. Those who sit and watch and don't do anything to try and stop it or AT LEAST call the police should be charged as accessories in some instances IMO.
99 times out of 100, those guys are going to be going home alone. :lol:
Perhaps not. However, the groups most notorious for date rape tend to be frat boys and athletes.
Neither clique is known for attracting particularly "meek" varieties of men, or men with especially respectful attitudes towards women.
We actually are men. We know how men think, and I'm willing to bet that we have more experience dealing with other men than you do.
While not every man will go after "sluts," not every man is promiscuous either. Promiscuous men do tend to overwhelmingly go after women they perceive to be "slutty," precisely because they know that there is a much higher likelihood that they will put out.
A dirty slob in a T-shirt and a clean cut man in a nice suit walk into a bar and / or night club one after the other.
Which one would you rather flirt with? Which one would you rather have approach you?
They are unless you have smelly feet. When my son was small, I cut the feet off of the feety pajamas because they stunk so bad in those plastic feeties.
I think the main thing you're missing here is the fact that if a woman is going home with a guy, then it doesn't mean she is going to get raped. In most of the cases where the guy gets lucky enough to take the girl home, it is consensual sex that occurs (if there is sex), not rape.
First, you are stereotyping. ANY type of guy can be a rapist, geeks, nerds, rednecks, jocks, snobs, frat boys, military guys, just plain weirdos, any of them.
Here's the thing though, not all promiscuous men are the potential rapists.
You seem to be under this impression that women who dress "slutty" are automatically some sort of stupid teaser who is going to simply lead a man on til she gets him to agree to take her home (or somewhere else) and then turn him down for sex.
Actually, the guy in the nice suit would look just as out of place in the bars I go to as the "dirty slob". I wouldn't likely flirt with either because neither would be likely to know how to country dance, a necessary criteria for gaining my attention when I was single, if they're in a country bar in either attire.
As I've been saying though, you have to also consider the woman's taste as well here. Some women wouldn't care at all. Personally, although appearance in general was important to me, there is a difference between choices between hitting on someone who is dressed cleanly in any clothing and one who looks like a slob. But that wouldn't have anything to do with their potential to rape. Either man described could potentially rape a woman. They may go about it by different means, but either has the potential to be a rapist (heck just look at our most infamous rapists, they cover pretty much the gamut in the looks department).
A woman may be more willing to go home with the goodlooking guy, but then she also may be more willing to actually say yes to the goodlooking guy. The same the other way around, the woman who looks like a "slut" may be hit on more, but she also may be more likely to say "yes" to sex, while the more conservatively dressed woman may be hit on less, but may also be less likely to say yes to sex, even with a guy she agrees to go home with or go off alone with.
It really isn't about the assumptions men may make about the women in bars (or in certain clothing) at all, it is about what the man's taste in women are, what the man is actually looking to do, what the woman is willing to agree to (if she is even willing to respond to attention from a man at all), and so many other things.
Like in that Stuebenville case. That attack happened at a coach's house. While he was home. I just don't see how he would not know that some girl was getting raped in his basement.
Not to mention the other people who were there and took pictures.
I bought my sweetheart some of those cozy hoodie-footie PJs.
And the ones with booties too.
I got 50% off for buying both.
But I swear if they start getting stinky feets they are going straight in the trash.
I think we're talking past one another here, a lot of this is coming out of left field for me.
Well, yea. I never said that "hooking up" was equivalent to rape.
I was simply saying that the environments and behaviors associated with "hooking up" can potentially put a woman at greater risk for rape if she's not careful. As such, it isn't a good idea for a woman to go around conducting herself in such a manner as might lead men to believe she is looking for sex when she really is not.
Around the wrong kinds of guys, that kind of thing can be dangerous.
Within the context of what we are discussing here (i.e. date rape associated with night clubs, bars, and parties where sexual misunderstandings rather than premeditated predatory intent might play a key role), we are going to be looking at a rather particular kind of guy in most cases.
A) The kind who would be making an active point of trying to "pick up" women in the first place and actually have some amount of success with it.
B) The kind who would be physically aggressive and unempathetic enough to possibly not take "no" for an answer once he's got his blood up.
Again, in most cases, this does not imply "geeks" or the more "mild mannered" varieties of men. It implies someone more aggressive and impulsive. Given this fact, I don't think it's any coincidence whatsoever that such a disproportionately large number of reported date rapes tend to take place in connection with either fraternities or athletes.
They simply tend to have the personalities and patterns of behavior which most clearly fit the bill. :shrug:
No, but I do think there is a certain kind of man who is more likely to commit date rape than others. They are very likely to be favorably inclined towards promiscuity.
As such, they will probably target women they feel will "put out" (i.e. 'sluts') over more conservative types of women when making sexual advances.
Again, no. Most women who make a deliberate point of showing off "the goods" probably are looking to have sex. However, there are some women who do legitimately like to "tease" men (or who might simply not realize the full implications of their behavior) out there as well. Those women are foolish.
It's a bit like waving meat in front of a hungry dog. With the wrong dog... well... Let's just say that things can wind up ending badly for a person.
I wasn't saying that it had anything to do with rape. I was using the example to highlight the fact that clothing does play a role in shaping society's perception of a person regardless of their gender or actual intentions.
Most women (if they're being honest) are going to make certain assumptions about a man in a suit that they would not make about a man in a T-shirt when it comes to categorizing his value as a potential mate. Likewise, most men are going to make certain assumptions about a woman based upon the way she is dressed when it comes to selecting the women most likely to have sex out of a crowd.
While personal tastes do factor into this, they really do not negate my overall point here.
A sexually aggressive man is very likely going to be looking for a "slut" rather than a "nice girl" if he is trying to ensure that a sexual liaison will take place. When he finds a woman that outwardly fits that description, he is going to make the assumption that her style of dress and way of carrying herself do indicate a higher potential willingness to engage in sexual activity with him than other women.
Some of those men might even go so far as to take that clothing as "implied consent," and not handle it very well if their assumptions turn out to be false, and the woman in question really is not willing or able to consent to going "all the way." This can occasionally result in a date rape taking place if just the wrong combination of other factors come into play.
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