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aps said:Stace, why do you like Jesse?
Navy Pride said:I think it will be George Allen against Hillary but I would love to see Jeb Bush get the nomination for the Republicans............Can you imagine how that would torque the jaws of the left if he got the nomination and was elected prez....
Eight more years of a Bush........:lol:
Stace said:Jeb Bush currently has no plans to run, though. Nor does Cheney.
Navy Pride said:It wouldn't be the first time a politician has changed his mind....
from www.politics1.com
His father George H.W. Bush was President ("Bush 41") from 1989-93, and his older brother George W. Bush has been President since 2001 ("Bush 43") ... so lots of Republicans like the idea of turning Florida Governor Jeb Bush into the "Bush 44" President. Bush, however, repeatedly says he is not running in 2008 and actively discourages any attempts to suggest he'll change his mind. Bush allows for the possibility he may run for President at some future date, but he strongly emphasizes that it won't be in 2008. "I'm not going to run for President in 2008. That's not my interest," said Bush in October 2004. In May 2005, Bush's father explained that Jeb wouldn't run in 2008 because "The timing's wrong ... he doesn't want to do it." Jeb apparently believes the nation isn't ready to elect two brothers to back-to-back terms in the Oval Office. Two possible reasons that seem to give credibility to Jeb's denials on 2008: (1) He'll only be 59-years-old for the 2012 election, and (2) many believe he'll be the VP nominee in 2008, paving the way for his future White House run.
Stace said:Very true.....
But....
Navy Pride said:Yeah but can you imagine how Kerry, Kennedy, Dean, Peolsi, and Reid would hadle another Bush presidency........
I personally think Jeb Bush is the smartest of the 3 Bushes........
Missouri Mule said:Follow the money. By that I mean the betting odds.
Republican side: McCain, Guilliani, Allen.
Democratic side: Hillary, Warner, Bayh.
The odds-on favorites are McCain and Hillary. At this point in time they are very heavy favorites.
I can see the possibility of a McCain/Liberman independent "unity" ticket. They are joined at the hip and there is no reason why one party candidate can't put another VP on the ticket from another party. You could conceivably have a McCain (Republican) and a Liberman (Democrat) on the same ticket.
The likely Democratic ticket would be Hillary and Bayh.
BTW, Ventura has zero chance of winning the nomination of either party and cannot and will not be elected president. None whatsoever.
galenrox said:Dude, I really can't say how much I doubt that Hillary will get the nomination. She has some rabid fans who happen to be very loud, but these people are in the VAST minority. Like, for example, last year when Kerry got the nomination, I knew a lot of people who supported him in the primaries. I don't know anyone, absolutely anyone who supports Hillary Clinton.
galenrox said:Dude, I really can't say how much I doubt that Hillary will get the nomination. She has some rabid fans who happen to be very loud, but these people are in the VAST minority. Like, for example, last year when Kerry got the nomination, I knew a lot of people who supported him in the primaries. I don't know anyone, absolutely anyone who supports Hillary Clinton.
Stace said:He wouldn't be running under the Democrat or Republican ticket. He's an Independent/write in candidate.
Stace said:He wouldn't be running under the Democrat or Republican ticket. He's an Independent/write in candidate.
Navy Pride said:McCain is a Conservative Republican and always has been.....He will never change parties.........
Missouri Mule said:I'm aware of that fact but it doesn't matter. He is unelectable as a presidential candidate. It's a non-starter; won't happen.
A long, long shot who is in the running and an defacto active campaign is Russ Feingold. Don't count him out by any means. He could win the Democratic nomination and would be a very formidable candidate against the Republican candidate.
But as for Ventura. Just put it out of your mind. Won't happen.
Bergslagstroll said:You american can do what ever you want, but you most realise that it would be extremly silly if you had two famillies that would have run USA for over two decades. Because with 280 million people you could consider other famillies...
Missouri Mule said:A long, long shot who is in the running and an defacto active campaign is Russ Feingold. Don't count him out by any means. He could win the Democratic nomination and would be a very formidable candidate against the Republican candidate.
Stace said:And how, exactly, is he "unelectable"? He meets the criteria in that he is an American born citizen, he's over the age of 35.......even if he doesn't have a chance of winning a nomination, I can still discuss why I like his ideas and views.
Besides, with two years to go, I wouldn't count ANYONE out.
galenrox said:One thing I've noticed is the only people who've said that Hillary'll win the nomination are people who would under almost no circumstances vote democrat, let alone for her. Anyone who's even remotely on the inside of the democrats knows full well she won't.
She can have all of the money in the world, won't change the fact that most people hate her (and not just right wingers, I mean most people of all political placement hate her). Unless she has a trick up her sleeve that will somehow get this vast majority of democrats who hate her to stop hating her, there isn't a chance in hell, so you can stop salivating for the walk in the park of an election you're anticipating!
It's funny that you'd suggest a McCaine/Lieberman ticket, considering that's the only match up that I wouldn't vote for McCaine on. I'd vote McCaine/Frist before I'd vote McCaine/Lieberman, cause although Frist is a dirty dirty mother****er, at least he's not a facist.
Missouri Mule said:I just know these things after following politics for about 55 years. I absolutely, positively, without equivocation, guarantee you that Ventura will not be the next president of the United States. And I would be astonished if he even runs for the office.
For what it is worth, I happen to like him for the most part. I think his honesty is refreshing but like all politicians they must walk both sides of the street to be elected. A Bill Clinton can get by with that but most can't. Bush is almost an anomoly. But he had the good fortune to run against two of the worst candidates in U.S. history; namely Al Bore and John (I voted against the funding before I voted for it) Kerry.
galenrox said:Lieberman's a facist, as shown by his association with the PTC.
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