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Putin Asks Reporter If US 'Assassinated' Ashli Babbitt

Tahuyaman said:
A lot of people didn’t participate in the capitol riot. There was no attempted hanging.
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So people who set up a gallows, violently enter the building that they know a person is supposed to be in, chanting "hang" <that person> (in this case "Mike Pence") are not a threat?
 
Tahuyaman said:
There's no disgrace for me to own.


The rioters disrupted a ceremony. The US constitution doesn't dictate how that ceremony needs to be conducted. The election was over. Nothing would have changed. Our government was not in danger of being overthrown. The election was not in danger of being overturned.


Putin was irrelevant.
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Putin is why this thread exists, and why you are doing somersaults trying to exclude and justify an insurrection.

And here you are, taking the Russian position (a consistant pattern in right wing media for most of the last eight years.).
 
Tahuyaman said:
Where did I ignore it? I just portray it for what it was, not what it was not.
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Nope. You ignore it because you are consistently here in this thread trying to deny the hate displayed by Trump supporters who not only stormed the Capitol, some stating straight up they wanted to hurt or kill others who did not agree with their politics, but even plenty more online and other places.
 
Tahuyaman said:
Other than the fact she was unarmed and not a physical the prest to anyone?
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He did not know she was unarmed. But being armed is not a requirement for lethal force, particularly when you are a part of a violent, threatening mob. She was a threat.
 
Tahuyaman said:
Still, I think Putin asking the question was fairly shrewd. The only answer a liberal could come up with is, “well, that’s different,”
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It fulfilled some of its purpose, making idiots agree with him and against their fellow Americans, dividing the US more.
 
roguenuke said:
It fulfilled some of its purpose, making idiots agree with him and against their fellow Americans, dividing the US more.
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I didn't say I agreed with him. He simply demonstrated that sometimes people need to check themselves before they throw rocks at someone else.


People like you are doing everything they can to make the divide even more bitter.
 
Tahuyaman said:
I didn't say I agreed with him. He simply demonstrated that sometimes people need to check themselves before they throw rocks at someone else.
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Oh, no you have showed consistently here on this thread that you agree with him. Your posts show that you agree with him on this.
 
Tahuyaman said:
If you want to search a bag, you detain them and search the bag. You don’t kill them to search it. Duh.
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If you cannot detain a single person because they are a part of a mob that has already harmed other officers, then how do you stop them to search their bag? Do you have any experience at all in tactics or crowd control or law enforcement?
 
roguenuke said:
Oh, no you have showed consistently here on this thread that you agree with him. Your posts show that you agree with him on this.
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You are lying about my comments. Of course that's what I expect from you and your type.
 
Tahuyaman said:
So, she should have been killed because the officer didn't know what was in her backpack. Interesting. I guess from now on every cop has a reason to kill someone wearing a backpack.
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Her death was a result of the totality of the situation in which she voluntarily was involved in and showed herself to be a threat.
 
Tahuyaman said:
You are dishonest and must misrepresent others to support your side.
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The only thing you seem to have here is attacks. It is noted that you can't seem to actually provide any sort of evidence to defend your posts I have responded to, rather just attempt to attack me.

Ashli Babbitt was a part of and at the head of the violent, threatening mob trying to break through the last physical barrier that would then give access to Congressmembers, their staff, and other civilians and officer within the House Chamber. She was the first to cross that barrier, so she was shot and killed to stop the threat she posed. It was a valid tactical action and justified shooting for the situation that we can see on multiple videos available with little effort.
 
Atomic Kid said:
Same America it has always been. Doesn't matter how years of you serve. When you enlist you take an oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic".
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And that's just what Ashley Babbitt. was doing. America is at war but most leftists don't know it. Your leaders certainly do though, which is why the Social and Corporate media are carrying out their censorship programs, and what they don't censors the leftists will do it to themselves.. Covid unnecessarily killed millions around the world and hundreds of thousands of Americans. That's war.
 
roguenuke said:
She wasn't murdered and the shooting was justified. You have no evidence it wasn't.
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That's not the way traditional justice has worked. At one time a person was innocent until proven guilty, but not in the new America.

It's becoming ever easier to murder someone if you feel you have a good enough excuse. The rising crime rates tell you that.
 
roguenuke said:
You don't have to brandish a weapon openly to be a threat.

Depends on the circumstances. It doesn't take a weapon for someone to be a threat. Were you against the shooting in Ferguson of Mike Brown? How about the shooting in Florida by an officer in 2012, of a naked man, Rudy Eugene? Were those guys threats or not?
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Do you know who did the shooting in these cases? Do you know who murdered Ashli Babbitt?
 
TomFitz said:
Putin’s objective was the drive the divisive tone of right wing American parochial politics.

It was one of the few weapons that Putin had in Geneva.

So, he supported the insurgency in order to trigger the American right wing audience.

As you see from this thread, the right wing audience here is still easily triggered by Russian propoganda (which is what this was), particular when it is aimed at their strongly held set of prejudices and fears.
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Was it Russian propaganda who encouraged TDS among the American people or did they do that on their own?
 
roguenuke said:
That's interesting that you should say that since there are far more conservatives threatening to kill their political opponents, even caught threatening that. Even in what happened on 1/6, it is the Trump supporters violently entering the Capitol who were set to kill their opponents, in fact chanting "hang Mike Pence".
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As everyone should know by now it wasn't just Trump supporters at that protest. We don't know who said what. Did you hear the repeated shouts of "No Antifa!" when some began scaling the fences?
 
TomFitz said:
Putin is why this thread exists, and why you are doing somersaults trying to exclude and justify an insurrection.

And here you are, taking the Russian position (a consistant pattern in right wing media for most of the last eight years.).
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What is the Russian position on Trump? Do you actually believe Putin was pro Trump?
 
Carl Young said:
That's not the way traditional justice has worked. At one time a person was innocent until proven guilty, but not in the new America.

It's becoming ever easier to murder someone if you feel you have a good enough excuse. The rising crime rates tell you that.
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Well, 2021 has a rebound from covid, to be sure, but it's hardly much of a trend.
 
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