I can tell you first hand, NO ONE cares about the families. No one thinks about the families. Unless its YOUR family, you are isolated in your grief and suffering.
That is the reality.
No one knows how they will react from the experience of war. Prior to going.I am a bit conflicted about this issue as a whole. On one hand, I think we need to give as much support as possible to the servicemen and women who have service-related PTSD. Otoh, they signed up for the job, and war is hell. I'm just not sure that because a man (or woman) voluntarily signs up for military service, that we owe the family, for what could become the rest of their lives.
Imo, someone who joins up, willingly putting himself at risk, should be doubly cautious about that decision, as the long-term repercussions can be horrible to a young family.
No one knows how they will react from the experience of war. Prior to going.
I am a bit conflicted about this issue as a whole. On one hand, I think we need to give as much support as possible to the servicemen and women who have service-related PTSD. Otoh, they signed up for the job, and war is hell. I'm just not sure that because a man (or woman) voluntarily signs up for military service, that we owe the family, for what could become the rest of their lives.
Imo, someone who joins up, willingly putting himself at risk, should be doubly cautious about that decision, as the long-term repercussions can be horrible to a young family.
I think American Sniper was the first movie( other than Brothers) that showed what the family goes through, but it only touched on it. I think our returning service members who suffer from PTSD should be offered any and all services that benefit them. I feel for those who come back injured or psychologically tormented, but often times, the residual trickles into family life and the family silently suffers as well. A wife who rides it out is considered strong and supportive. Do you think that we as a society only think about the Soldier/Airmen/Marine etc? Do we forget about the people they live with, and how it's affecting them?
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I'm not talking in the sense of "owing" the family, more that you never really hear the media talk about the family. Issues are ongoing long after the war. Remnants of anger, short temper, no tbeing comfortable in crowds, limiting places you can go, etc.
I can tell you first hand, NO ONE cares about the families. No one thinks about the families. Unless its YOUR family, you are isolated in your grief and suffering.
That is the reality.
Great charity:
https://www.fisherhouse.org/about/
A lot of us care about the whole military family.
https://www.mcsf.org/
Bob Woodruff Foundation
There are a bunch more, that said, the government could really care less about injured veterans for the most part.
You can walk away from nursing at any time. You just cant quit your job in the service.I realize that, but it's not hard to figure out that going to war and killing people can have pretty severe effects. My point is that more consideration should probably be put into making such a serious decision, and that dragging your young wife and children into such a scarring environment is probably unwise.
It's sort of like me going into nursing thirty years ago, then bitching because I have to deal with sick people, and deal with bodily fluids and dying. I signed up for it. It's stressful as hell, and more than one nurse has gone off the deep end because the job sucks. Do we owe anyone who has job stress-related depression for the rest of their lives?
I appreciate the sentiment here but I'm not sure what you're getting at. I think there are many dangerous jobs and in most cases there is a brotherhood/sisterhood that develops among those in the profession and the families that support them. When a police officer dies during duty, police officers from all over the world congregate at that funeral service to show respect and to honour the service and that goes on with firefighters as well, as examples. I also think that those professions look to the care of the families left behind as well.
The difference may be in where tragedy occurs. With police/firefighters, their danger is where they live and the families live that danger every day, read and hear about it every day and the families share the experiences every day. Soldiers, however, experience their danger, for the most part, oceans away, generally by themselves, and they often suffer it internally in order to be outwardly brave and unaffected. As such, the societal closeness and protection you refer to isn't readily available for either the soldier or his/her family.
I know my father, after serving in WWII, was very disillusioned and felt abandoned by the government and those he served with when he got home. It took years for him and he never really forgave.
To answer your question, maybe it's the families of soldiers who forget other families of soldiers and they need to find ways to be more connected and supportive of each other rather than expect society in general to be understanding and supportive of something they can't appreciate.
I am a bit conflicted about this issue as a whole. On one hand, I think we need to give as much support as possible to the servicemen and women who have service-related PTSD. Otoh, they signed up for the job, and war is hell. I'm just not sure that because a man (or woman) voluntarily signs up for military service, that we owe the family, for what could become the rest of their lives.
Imo, someone who joins up, willingly putting himself at risk, should be doubly cautious about that decision, as the long-term repercussions can be horrible to a young family.
Greetings, CJ. :2wave:
My mother's brother Johnnie lost a leg in New Guinea in WW2, (gangrene had set in before he was rescued) and she often talked about how he angrily said he'd give the government back every cent they ever paid him if they would give him his leg back! I guess he never really adjusted, and was bitter till he died. Why can't we use robots to fight our wars - starting with the ME! They don't suffer like humans do. One day we probably will, but not soon enough to help the mentally and physically injured we already have! Sad...
Not to go on about this, but the premise of the thread is simply flawed. The resources may not be widely utilized, but they ARE there.
Web Links: Families - PTSD: National Center for PTSD
Now...one of our BIGGEST challenges (and its a nut we have yet to crack) is with the families of our Guard and Reservists that deploy. That is a huge problem.
It is not hard to crack the nut, just expensive. We do not have the mental healthcare system in the US to deal with people's chronic issues. This was the result of decisions made a generation ago. It is more economical to incarcerate people or drug them into submission than to provide them a more holistic system the deal with mental issues. We could learn from this and use it to build a widely available mental health system, but we will not because Lord forbid a corporate CEO has to pay some taxes.
Not to go on about this, but the premise of the thread is simply flawed. The resources may not be widely utilized, but they ARE there.
Web Links: Families - PTSD: National Center for PTSD
Now...one of our BIGGEST challenges (and its a nut we have yet to crack) is with the families of our Guard and Reservists that deploy. That is a huge problem.
Im sure. I wish there was some sort of catch all. I mentioned the families of guard and reservists...some people live 2-3 hundred miles from their drill locations. Its really difficult to get services out to them as well. The VA has been using traveling/mobile care centers and doing a lot of work with tele-outreach.I wish I could say it's all very helpful - but what's available and how efficient it is varies widely state to state and where you live in relation to certain help centers.
I have 3 mentally ill people in this home on medication and seeking out therapy - I'm worn the **** out between their needs and beyond those necessities I have no time or energy for much anything else.
White flag - I surrendered a long time ago.
Good morning Lady P - milder here today, but the freeze is coming back later in the week - hope all is good with you.
I don't know about the robots part - I guess you could call drones robots in that they're unmanned and are controlled by humans outside of the battlefield. But robots are exceedingly expensive at this point.
I wish I could say it's all very helpful - but what's available and how efficient it is varies widely state to state and where you live in relation to certain help centers.
I have 3 mentally ill people in this home on medication and seeking out therapy - I'm worn the **** out between their needs and beyond those necessities I have no time or energy for much anything else.
White flag - I surrendered a long time ago.
Im sure. I wish there was some sort of catch all. I mentioned the families of guard and reservists...some people live 2-3 hundred miles from their drill locations. Its really difficult to get services out to them as well. The VA has been using traveling/mobile care centers and doing a lot of work with tele-outreach.
Not saying its perfect but that there ARE a lot of resources. I believe we in the military are often our families worst enemies when it comes to making people aware of what is actually available.
Anyway...take this for what it is worth. I am pretty connected in with support services and if there is ever anything I could help with, please feel free to PM me. No promises and I'm sure you have already checked things out. Just sayin. And sincere good thoughts for you and your family.
It's good your H is being treAted. It's even scarier when they think there's no problem.
MilitaryOneSource pays for 12 free sessions for any family member. VA services are free. ArmyOne SOurce, ACS, SFACs, military SWS and Behavioral Health Services...all provided free. VA PTSD clinic services...all free.
Save your partisan ramblings for a topic they might actually apply to.
12 free sessions is a start. There are a ton of resources available as I have demonstrated. The facts wont matter to you if all you care about is turning this into some sort of partisan rant.They apply to this issue. There isn't a VA clinic in every town in the country and "12 free sessions" are meaningless for people who will have a lifetime of issues.
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