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Protests at McConnell's offices

Sampson Simpson said:
McConnel has to be one of the biggest POS in US history. REfuses to allow votes, is a complete hack, protects Trumpt at every term, does nothing but lie and lie and lie, is a giant hypocrite. I can't believe how stupid Kentuckians have to be to continually vote in that guy.


He's lucky his head doesn't end up on a pike for his complete disregard for the majority of the country. If the democrats pulled half the **** McConnel did, the right would be rioting with arms. Just shows what hypocritical people they are
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I lived in Kentucky for a couple of years, a long time ago. They ARE that stupid. It's inbreeding ... where I lived, the local phone book had two or three surnames, repeated over and over.
 
justabubba said:
seems you have forgotten the pre-Christmas interview of tRump, pence, Pelosi and schumer
during which tRump accepted responsibility for the shutdown and promised not to foist that problem elsewhere
even said he would wear the mantle proudly

do i need to search for the youtube of that discussion at the white house
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:lamo

Trump also claims credit for the low unemployment rate. So you give him that as well.

What SPECIFIC LEGISLATION did Trump VETO?
 
Fearandloathing said:
"I would be proud to shut down the government" His exact words.

What he DID was after getting flack for Fox News, he reversed himself on a spending bill that had been set to be passed within days and rather suddenly decided the world would end without a concrete wall. He slithered out from under a commitment he made and then threatened to shut down the government if he didn't get his way.

He didn't get his way

All this is, is an exercise in Trump finding a way he can falsely brag that he "won"

He's not winning, he's losing about a point a day
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Wonderful. Now...all you have to do is produce the legislation he vetoed to shut down the government. You get thats how it works...right? Congress passes the spending bills, the president signs them. So...what specifically did he veto?
 
bullseyelqcs said:
He didn't actually have the cojones to veto legislation that would pass the way a clean bill would, so instead, he told Mitch not to bother bringing bills to him he wasn't gonna sign, and Mitch obliged him.

By design, he has vetoed any legislation that doesn't include funding for his legacy wall, and he didn't even have to be on record for doing it. McConnell has provided him all the cover he needs.
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WHich legislation is it that he didnt have the cajones to veto? Specifically cite the legislation congress passed that he didnt sign.
 
I love it when you get angry. Lmao
 
VanceMack said:
WHich legislation is it that he didnt have the cajones to veto? Specifically cite the legislation congress passed that he didnt sign.
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Are you really trying to use the fact that you can't prove a negative as a defense? Pretty weak sauce, homie.

He claimed he would veto a bill that didn't include funding for the wall. He THEN turned right around and told Mitch not to bring a bill to him that he would have to veto. The reason for that is because now he doesn't actually have to pony up on his original claim he would veto the bill.
 
I wonder where all these government workers were when Obama basically shut down the oil and coal industries and 100's of thousands lost their jobs? ;)


The only people that care about government overpaid workers not being paid, are the government overpaid workers. The rest of America gives exactly zero ****s.. :)


Tim-
 
Hicup said:
I wonder where all these government workers were when Obama basically shut down the oil and coal industries and 100's of thousands lost their jobs? ;)


The only people that care about government overpaid workers not being paid, are the government overpaid workers. The rest of America gives exactly zero ****s.. :)


Tim-
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You know who they care even less about? The people in the coal and oil industries who Obama offered to pay to crosstrain for something else and declined the offer.

They actually do care about the government workers, though, since things like airport security and the Coast Guard are kinda important.

Post Grade - D-
 
bullseyelqcs said:
Are you really trying to use the fact that you can't prove a negative as a defense? Pretty weak sauce, homie.

He claimed he would veto a bill that didn't include funding for the wall. He THEN turned right around and told Mitch not to bring a bill to him that he would have to veto. The reason for that is because now he doesn't actually have to pony up on his original claim he would veto the bill.
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Oh, no, Dood...I'm using facts. Are you struggling with those, homie?

The president EXECUTES legislation passed by congress. In order for the President to shut down the government he would have to VETO legislation passed by congress. This is pretty straightforward stuff. Please present the legislation passed by Congress that the President has vetoed.
 
bullseyelqcs said:
You know who they care even less about? The people in the coal and oil industries who Obama offered to pay to crosstrain for something else and declined the offer.

They actually do care about the government workers, though, since things like airport security and the Coast Guard are kinda important.

Post Grade - D-
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Sure, well, essential government services are, well, essential, and what does the macro say about all those none essential government positions? I think one thing this shutdown has made abundantly clear is that bloated self-enriching government agencies are a thing we all need to rethink. By law, it has now passed the 30 permanent layoff period. Trump, can, if he has the will, shut down entire government agencies for good.. That's right, the law is the law.. ;)

It's also why government shutdowns rarely go past a week, historically. The political pressure to keep these agencies open is usually too much for weak kneed politicians, but not Trump!


Tim-
 
VanceMack said:
Oh, no, Dood...I'm using facts. Are you struggling with those, homie?

The president EXECUTES legislation passed by congress. In order for the President to shut down the government he would have to VETO legislation passed by congress. This is pretty straightforward stuff. Please present the legislation passed by Congress that the President has vetoed.
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If you want to let McConnell take the wrap, so be it.

The one person you CAN'T put this on is Nancy Pelosi. They have passed 8 bills in the House that have been DOA in the Senate because Mitch won't bring them to a vote. The reason he won't vote on them is because he was told not to bring anything to Trumps desk that he wouldn't pass.

Either Mitch cucked himself willingly, or Trump has performed a coup on the Congress. Either way, the result is the same.
 
bullseyelqcs said:
If you want to let McConnell take the wrap, so be it.

The one person you CAN'T put this on is Nancy Pelosi. They have passed 8 bills in the House that have been DOA in the Senate because Mitch won't bring them to a vote. The reason he won't vote on them is because he was told not to bring anything to Trumps desk that he wouldn't pass.

Either Mitch cucked himself willingly, or Trump has performed a coup on the Congress. Either way, the result is the same.
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It’s a crying shame how Mitch McConnell has betrayed the senate, a noble body which was capable of standing up to presidents regardless of party.
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Anyway we all know Nancy is the one holding up the process.
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Horse crap. Who is the one person who can end the shutdown right now? Trump.

Trump caused the shutdown and he’s the one who can end it.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A strong majority of Americans blame President Donald Trump for the record-long government shutdown and reject his primary rationale for a border wall, according to a new poll that shows the turmoil in Washington is dragging his approval rating to its lowest level in more than a year.

Overall, 34 percent of Americans approve of Trump’s job performance in a survey conducted by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. That’s down from 42 percent a month earlier and nears the lowest mark of his two-year presidency. The president’s approval among Republicans remains close to 80 percent, but his standing with independents is among its lowest points of his time in office.
https://www.apnews.com/dad8086738a64b4ba78c0404d5d04e79

The Politico/Morning Consult poll finds that a majority of voters — 54 percent — blame Trump and congressional Republicans for the shutdown, compared to 35 percent who blame Democrats.

The second poll, conducted by CBS News, finds that 71 percent of Americans “don’t think the issue of a border wall is worth a government shutdown, which they say is now having a negative impact on the country.”
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/23/18194184/trump-shutdown-polling

Trump is blowing it, big time. Nearly 3/4 of Americans say the wall isn’t worth the shutdown and 57% are looking forward to voting Trump out of office.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Horse crap. Who is the one person who can end the shutdown right now? Trump.

Trump caused the shutdown and he’s the one who can end it.

WASHINGTON (AP) — A strong majority of Americans blame President Donald Trump for the record-long government shutdown and reject his primary rationale for a border wall, according to a new poll that shows the turmoil in Washington is dragging his approval rating to its lowest level in more than a year.

Overall, 34 percent of Americans approve of Trump’s job performance in a survey conducted by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. That’s down from 42 percent a month earlier and nears the lowest mark of his two-year presidency. The president’s approval among Republicans remains close to 80 percent, but his standing with independents is among its lowest points of his time in office.
https://www.apnews.com/dad8086738a64b4ba78c0404d5d04e79

The Politico/Morning Consult poll finds that a majority of voters — 54 percent — blame Trump and congressional Republicans for the shutdown, compared to 35 percent who blame Democrats.

The second poll, conducted by CBS News, finds that 71 percent of Americans “don’t think the issue of a border wall is worth a government shutdown, which they say is now having a negative impact on the country.”
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/23/18194184/trump-shutdown-polling

Trump is blowing it, big time. Nearly 3/4 of Americans say the wall isn’t worth the shutdown and 57% are looking forward to voting Trump out of office.
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If Trump did sign legislation to reopen the government without his wall, the CEC will say mean things about him, and he can't have that.
 
armycowboy said:
If Trump did sign legislation to reopen the government without his wall, the CEC will say mean things about him, and he can't have that.
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Like with many of his bankrupted businesses, Trump bit off more than he could chew with the shutdown. No matter how hard he tries to shift blame Americans aren’t buying.
 
bullseyelqcs said:
If you want to let McConnell take the wrap, so be it.

The one person you CAN'T put this on is Nancy Pelosi. They have passed 8 bills in the House that have been DOA in the Senate because Mitch won't bring them to a vote. The reason he won't vote on them is because he was told not to bring anything to Trumps desk that he wouldn't pass.

Either Mitch cucked himself willingly, or Trump has performed a coup on the Congress. Either way, the result is the same.
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Until there is a veto, The problem is not with the president, it is with Congress. The House passed spending bills before and after Pelosi took over. The Senate still has not acted on those spending bills. Im not assigning blame. Im stating facts.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
Like with many of his bankrupted businesses, Trump bit off more than he could chew with the shutdown. No matter how hard he tries to shift blame Americans aren’t buying.
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Yeah, he didn't really think this through, which is nothing unusual for him. He signaled that he's sign the continuing resolution, the CEC went off on him and he panicked.
 
VanceMack said:
Until there is a veto, The problem is not with the president, it is with Congress. The House passed spending bills before and after Pelosi took over. The Senate still has not acted on those spending bills. Im not assigning blame. Im stating facts.
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At least you got the facts right.

There is blame on the President for at least pressuring Mitch to not vote on any bill he wouldn't pass.
 
Rogue Valley said:
No link yet.

Loud and angry protests going on right now outside the office of Mitch McConnell in the Senate Office Building, Washington.

Capitol Police are arresting the GOVERNMENT WORKERS that Trump and Mitch refuse to PAY!

There are also protests outside McConnell's offices in Louisville and Lexington, Kentucky.
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Mitch doesn't care, as long as he's on Trump's good side, he's happy.
 
armycowboy said:
If Trump did sign legislation to reopen the government without his wall, the CEC will say mean things about him, and he can't have that.
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If anyone in the CEC did say something mean to Trump, Trump would simply unfollow them on Twitter.
 
bullseyelqcs said:
At least you got the facts right.

There is blame on the President for at least pressuring Mitch to not vote on any bill he wouldn't pass.
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:lamo

"AT least"

Ive never not.
 
armycowboy said:
Yeah, he didn't really think this through, which is nothing unusual for him. He signaled that he's sign the continuing resolution, the CEC went off on him and he panicked.
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To be fair, Trump spoke to a pill popping Rush Limbaugh, who was probably high on something. Rush probably told Trump not to cave into those "weenie leftists". Trump said mega dittos! And the rest is history.
 
bongsaway said:
As much as I have never agreed with the vision of the republican party, it really is a shame watching it being destroyed by it's leadership and the base is swallowing it just so they can think it's screwing liberals. Really sad.
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Trump's presidency might be worth the pain if it means the Republican vote never exceeds 30% in the foreseeable future.
 
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