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Yes they do.What do you mean by “gaining power”? Once elected a president has a lot of power.
Not true. The best leaders surround themselves with people of varying opinions so that a wide range of options are presented for any situation.You’re free to think he was an asshole. I’ll just disagree with that since it’s a matter of opinion.
But your claim that he is authoritarian because he “centralized power with those who agreed with him” pertains to every single president in history.
**** that. Buden turned it into an art form - every situation he was in, he lied.As for lying-everyone lies.
I don't think that is the answer.
Because if the president "fails", what happens? Same process we have - congress can boot them out. But that hasn't worked, so we need a process to prevent them from gaining power in the first place.
Not true. The best leaders surround themselves with people of varying opinions so that a wide range of options are presented for any situation.
Biden didn't do so. He wanted yes men, so that he could do whatever he wanted.
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Yes they do.
Which is why we need to study the people who supported Biden and the people who covered up his decline, so that in the future the people can demand someone as bad as he is removed from office.
Name a president who doesn’t lie. In fact name a human who doesn’t lie. If you vote for a human you vote for a liar. No exceptions. It’s just a matter of degree, so get over it.Not true. The best leaders surround themselves with people of varying opinions so that a wide range of options are presented for any situation.
Biden didn't do so. He wanted yes men, so that he could do whatever he wanted.
**** that. Buden turned it into an art form - every situation he was in, he lied.
Some people support and vote for liars.
Others have higher expectations of their elected officials.
YupYes they do.
Which is why we need to study the people who supported Biden and the people who covered up his decline, so that in the future the people can demand someone as bad as he is removed from office.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - George Orwell, 1984
Forgetting the names of people you know, even your wife? Apparently normal.Trump didn't look like he had an mental decline in his 3 hour Rogan interview whereas Biden could barely get through a sentence.
No, great attempt at parity. Of course we know why no one wants to talk about those things.Wow….great attempt at deflection.
Oh, and you know for a fact that Biden, who wiped the floor with Trump in the 2000 debate, who handily won the 2000 election, was clearly and certifiably incompetent by 2022 when she left the WH.....Yes???. And they would have viciously attacked and expelled from polite membership in their group anyone who ran with it, just as they attacked and tried to discredit Hur, and as they attacked the WSJ, when it did publish leaks about Bidens' decline. Anyone who did so would have been seen as "helping Trump" (which is ironic, considering the role that sort of behavior played in giving us Trump), and treated accordingly.
Also, I think the Pope is Catholic, that Trump is a narcissist, and that MAGA is willing to excuse and defend his abuses and lies.
I find that .... Jen Psaki was on MSNBC during this time frame.
Jill was not only the greatest enabler, it is she who cherished the trappings of the office, probably far more so than Ol' Joe.I don't think she needs to testify, but she was his biggest enabler. You would think his wife would have told him not to run and protected him when he had obvious problems. But no she did the opposite and I think it’s worse for her because she's his wife.
Obama was part of the push to force Biden out of the election with the threat of the 25 ammendment and Obama planned on waiting to endorse her according to Seymour Hersh.Good revision.
And IMO Jill enabling him is the worst considering she's his wife.Jill was not only the greatest enabler, it is she who cherished the trappings of the office, probably far more so than Ol' Joe.
Hence her wanting Ol' Joe to stay in office, to run again.
The Democrats as a whole would have been far better off had they had their full primary process to put forth a better candidate than Harris, especially now, that it is beyond obvious what the Democrats and their compliant and complicit lamestream media did in this cover up / minimization / gaslighting effort.
There's a large dues they are going to have to pay for this biggest scandal of theirs, and they should.
. The deflection is clear. But, It’s all good.No, great attempt at parity. Of course we know why no one wants to talk about those things.
Imagine defending the elites and not the voters picking the nominee.primaries are not direct democracy, delegates elect party nominees. I thought you knew how parties work. I guess not.
Weird that you would jump to that...Oh. So government interference and surveillance of all candidates, including getting ahold of their medical records?
Your support of Trump is noted, and your claims that he is ok because no laws were broken by electing him, doesn't really cover the topic.Yup
We need better mechanisms for removing incompetent presidents like the felon. As for blame-it’s useless. No laws were broken.
Got any realistic suggestions?
Weird that you would jump to that...
Unless you are arguing there is no way at all to prevent this from happening again?
Obviously you NEED my perspective, having a warped perspective of your own. And sure, my "support of the felon" is well known on DP. Just love him.Your support of Trump is noted, and your claims that he is ok because no laws were broken by electing him, doesn't really cover the topic.
Biden sought to cover up his deficits, hide his decline and conspired to surround himself with people who would do the same so as to subvert the knowledge of American voters.
He sought power above all else, for the few hours a day he was lucid, apparently.
Maybe the system is working fine - Biden will never be in power again, is known to be historically unpopular, and the guard rails of democracy held against him. Thank you for the perspective.
Thinking about this quote from Orwell, there's a long list of instances where the left and their complaint and complicit MSM propagandists have done so, clearly."The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - George Orwell, 1984
Cool story.Amid long, uncomfortable pauses, Joe Biden struggled to recall when his son died, when he left office as vice president, what year Donald Trump was elected or why he had classified documents he shouldn't have had, according to audio Axios obtained of his October 2023 interviews with special counsel Robert Hur.
Why it matters: The newly released recordings of Biden having trouble recalling such details — while occasionally slurring words and muttering — shed light on why his White House refused to release the recordings last year, as questions mounted about his mental acuity.
The audio also appears to validate Hur's assertion that jurors in a trial likely would have viewed Biden as "a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory."
Partly based on that determination, Hur decided not to prosecute Biden for improper possession of classified documents, angering Republicans because Trump was facing charges in his own classified document scandal then.
So the tapes were like we thought they were considering Biden's condition and it was the opposite of what Democrats claimed.
Noted. I don't share your love of him. I'm pretty Anti Trump, so your perspective is different than mine, for sure.Obviously you NEED my perspective, having a warped perspective of your own. And sure, my "support of the felon" is well known on DP. Just love him.
Still waiting for examples of Joe Biden being more "authoritarian" than any other president as you claimed.Noted. I don't share your love of him. I'm pretty Anti Trump, so your perspective is different than mine, for sure.
And I appreciate that.
Maybe you are right - the system is working well, and that's why Joe Biden got booted out and Trump got re elected, and nothing needs to change to prevent these things from happening again. I'll have to think on that.
Thank you for the discussion.
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