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That was my point: both are working with what they have for leverage.
It wasn't a swipe at anyone. it's pointing out that politicians are going to be political. And it's the kind of stuff parliamentarian systems are built on.
or he's a politician being political. You know, sort of like the republicans in forcing this shutdown. Not sure why everyone wants to ignore that and act amazed, but get this, water is also wet
He is not attacking me or any of the other american people. The republicans have attacked our services and are preventing them from happening. This is the result of their refusal to vote in the house on a budget they should be voting on. This has nothing at all to do with Obama and you are lying.
He certainly is. Because you're all warm and cuddly cozy with what he's doing you'll let any travesty slide. I am not lying you are, the House has passed every budget it was suppose to, the Senate didn't like the Budget so they grabbed their little piggies and cried wee wee wee all the way home...
No, he is not. You may wish he was because you want people to hate him blindly like you do, but this is not the faux news discussiomn groups and your misrepresentation of the truth does not make it so. Again, just because a republican or two thinks the budget should be some way does not mean that it will be. It has to pass with votes, and if you do not have the votes then you do not get your way. This is how the US government works. Boehner wants his own special laws and he is not in charge. He is not even president with veto power. Just because he thinks something should pass does not mean everyone else does and he gets his way. Sorry, but even though you feel it should happen that way does not make it so. Now boehner chose to hold everything up until he gets his way and the dems have told him they will not allow him to run the government no matter what. Sorry, but he just is not our dictator no matter how much you wish he was, or tell us that he is.
There are too many people whining about playing politics when it is simply the other side doing what normally happens. In reality it means if you are not in power your perks are going to be less when the people opposing them are in power. It is about democracy in a society that tends to vote on things, and some people need to get used to it.
You tell that to soldiers in the field who find comfort in their religious teachings. Before they have to sling a rifle and fight.It is called a shutdown and religious services being offered on taxpayer dime are not essential. If you do not like it feel free to restart the government and all of it's services. No you do not just get what you want when you force everything to shutdown. That is not how it works, and yes this means that we will not be paying for catholicism in the mean time and I am OK with that.
I do have to say the mass amount of whining and complaining about the shutdown seems to be coming from the people who want it. You wanted it now suck it up.
Carter and Clinton did none of this during shut downs. But please tell us how it would be with a republican prez.It is not surprising considering we have a democrat president. If we had a republican president there would be more leeway for programs they liked and dislike. The republicans expect their stuff to happen and the dems to take the hit for their hissy fit and i see no reason for that to be the case. the republicans want to play this game and part of that is sucking it up for the sacrifices they deem necessary for the end to obamacare. Any time they do not want it we can have a vote in the house on the CR and be done with it. If you want to call that playing politics that is fine. i call it dealing with the consequences of the choices you make. It is the same thing as dealing with getting arrested for illegal protests. It is the same thing as being arrested for not paying your taxes out of protest. It is the same thing as paying the fine rather than getting health insurance. It is just the system. If you cannot get the vbotes to change things then they should not change for you unless the laws are unconsitutional which in the case of Obamacare they are not.
Yea ok :roll:
Obama's golf course is still open
You tell that to soldiers in the field who find comfort in their religious teachings. Before they have to sling a rifle and fight.
Doesnt matter where. Soldiers in Georgia can be called up at a moments notice and sent into battle.Georgia is now to be considered "in the field"? When did the state secede?
The golf course on Andrews Airforce base has remained open. Obama closed down the stores so people couldn't buy food, but he left his golf course open
Troops Forage for Food While Golfers Play On in Shutdown - Bloomberg
The Government isn't shut down. 83% of it is running smoothly. It's still going to pay it's bills. Enough with the histrionics. Go back to your handlers and have them type you up some different talking points.
Whatever your handlers in the Obama Administration are paying you, it's not enough
Wait are you claiming Obama doesn't have the money to keep the memorials and church's open?
You aren't seriously making that contention right? Let me ask you:
How are those war memorials funded? :lol:
I mean seriously, the grocery stores are closed but the golf courses are open? Bad optics anyone? Obama just played another round there last week after he got done scaremongering the Economy. Like I told the other Obot, your Obama handlers are not paying you enough for what you do
Doesnt matter where. Soldiers in Georgia can be called up at a moments notice and sent into battle.
And if you knew anything about military chaplains. Their religion is more important than their service to the branch of the military they belong.
Hopefully one day soon, all people here in the US will turn their backs on the military and those in will quit it when its time to get out vs re upping.
what does that have to do with the article you posted or the fact that golf course is funded by user fees? I'm sorry if this process confuses you, but you don't get to call a mulligan because you got your card pulled over making buffoonish claims
I literally just got done posting in another thread about how Obama has been a completely failure as both political leader and his role as an executive. Seriously, do you even think about what you're posting, or are you some type of semi-sentient spambot that just rattles off pre-programmed bull**** because you lack the intelligence to write something meaningful?
Actually I wouldn't even care, due to the fact it's the type of political fodder that appeals to dip****s
So in other words this does not get money from congress for it's operations and therefor stays open by funding from elsewhere. Now maybe you can explain why things not included in the budget are going to shut down because there is no budget? It is not like the republicans stopped payment for these operations so there is no reason for them to shut down. It would also seem that this is pure manipulative BS on you part.
Well, you are complaining about irrelevant points. If this is not so bad feel free to quit your bitchin. Catholic services have been shut down by republicans in an attempt to get Obamacare revoked. If you want them restarted then feel free to tell republicans to fund those government programs. If it is fine for you for the reps to hold those services hosyage so we do not get Obamacare then you have nothing at all to complain about.
Do you not think the on-base store is not funded by the ítems it sells?
The golf course is on Federal land and we have seen that even though places are privately funded, they are closed because they are on Federal land. Why should the golf course be different?
What if the article you linked to in the above post pointed out that the seeming randomness of the things which are open and those which are not has to do with how those things are funded and with how many years worth of money an item is appropriated at a time and not the result of Obama's whims?The golf course on Andrews Airforce base has remained open. Obama closed down the stores so people couldn't buy food, but he left his golf course open
Troops Forage for Food While Golfers Play On in Shutdown - Bloomberg
The Government isn't shut down. 83% of it is running smoothly. It's still going to pay it's bills. Enough with the histrionics. Go back to your handlers and have them type you up some different talking points.
Whatever your handlers in the Obama Administration are paying you, it's not enough
What if the article you linked to in the above post pointed out that the seeming randomness of the things which are open and those which are not has to do with how those things are funded and with how many years worth of money an item is appropriated at a time and not the result of Obama's whims?
What if?
What if the article you linked to in the above post pointed out that the seeming randomness of the things which are open and those which are not has to do with how those things are funded and with how many years worth of money an item is appropriated at a time and not the result of Obama's whims?
What if?
can you cite some examples?
Just more of the Obama administration trying to hurt as many people as possible, knowing the media will blame Republicans for it. I hope this ultimately backfires on him and Democrats.
Examples of what? Do you mean people being denied Access to their property because it is on federal land?
The golf course is on Federal land and ***we have seen that even though places are privately funded, they are closed because they are on Federal land.*** Why should the golf course be different?
Priest: Obama Admin. Denied Mass to Catholics
Another attack on Religious Liberties by Obama...
Shock me Shock me...
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