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Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

Priest: Obama Admin. Denied Mass to Catholics


Another attack on Religious Liberties by Obama...

Shock me Shock me...


It is called a shutdown and religious services being offered on taxpayer dime are not essential. If you do not like it feel free to restart the government and all of it's services. No you do not just get what you want when you force everything to shutdown. That is not how it works, and yes this means that we will not be paying for catholicism in the mean time and I am OK with that.

I do have to say the mass amount of whining and complaining about the shutdown seems to be coming from the people who want it. You wanted it now suck it up.
 

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It is called a shutdown and religious services being offered on taxpayer dime are not essential. If you do not like it feel free to restart the government and all of it's services. No you do not just get what you want when you force everything to shutdown. That is not how it works, and yes this means that we will not be paying for catholicism in the mean time and I am OK with that.

I do have to say the mass amount of whining and complaining about the shutdown seems to be coming from the people who want it. You wanted it now suck it up.

Yea ok :roll:

Obama's golf course is still open
 

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Just more of the Obama administration trying to hurt as many people as possible, knowing the media will blame Republicans for it. I hope this ultimately backfires on him and Democrats.
 

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Yea ok :roll:

Obama's golf course is still open
So please do tell us all about this government funded golf course and please do show us some proof it is government funded as your word is clearluy marred by your lies. If we are paying for a presidential golf course during a government shut down I am happy to agree it should be closed, but if this is just a case of you misrepresenting things like you are well known to do I am not going to agree with you. BTW i still feel that it is a shut down and tough titty on these things ending. Such it up because you wanted them stopped.
 

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So please do tell us all about this government funded golf course and please do show us some proof it is government funded as your word is clearluy marred by your lies. If we are paying for a presidential golf course during a government shut down I am happy to agree it should be closed, but if this is just a case of you misrepresenting things like you are well known to do I am not going to agree with you. BTW i still feel that it is a shut down and tough titty on these things ending. Such it up because you wanted them stopped.

The golf course on Andrews Airforce base has remained open. Obama closed down the stores so people couldn't buy food, but he left his golf course open

Troops Forage for Food While Golfers Play On in Shutdown - Bloomberg

Grocery stores on Army bases in the U.S. are closed. The golf course at Andrews Air Force base is open.

The Government isn't shut down. 83% of it is running smoothly. It's still going to pay it's bills. Enough with the histrionics. Go back to your handlers and have them type you up some different talking points.

Whatever your handlers in the Obama Administration are paying you, it's not enough
 

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he left his golf course open

Tell me, how is the golf course funded? Does the government fund it? ;)
 
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Tell me, how is the golf course funded? ;)

Wait are you claiming Obama doesn't have the money to keep the memorials and church's open?

You aren't seriously making that contention right? Let me ask you:

How are those war memorials funded? :lol:

I mean seriously, the grocery stores are closed but the golf courses are open? Bad optics anyone? Obama just played another round there last week after he got done scaremongering the Economy. Like I told the other Obot, your Obama handlers are not paying you enough for what you do
 

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So please do tell us all about this government funded golf course and please do show us some proof it is government funded as your word is clearluy marred by your lies. If we are paying for a presidential golf course during a government shut down I am happy to agree it should be closed, but if this is just a case of you misrepresenting things like you are well known to do I am not going to agree with you. BTW i still feel that it is a shut down and tough titty on these things ending. Such it up because you wanted them stopped.

I generally agree with you here, but certain elements of the shut down have seemingly been managed for political effect and theater. But that's the nature of politics and hardly surprising
 

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The golf course on Andrews Airforce base has remained open. Obama closed down the stores so people couldn't buy food, but he left his golf course open

did you even bother reading that article?

like the 2nd or third paragraph:

<<<The seeming randomness of the U.S. government’s first shutdown in 17 years can be explained in part by anomalies in the spending Congress does and doesn’t control. Activities funded by fees from drug, financial-services and other companies are insulated from year-to-year budget dysfunction. The ones that get a budget from Congress get hit.>>>
 

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Wait are you claiming Obama doesn't have the money to keep the memorials and church's open?

I asked you a question - I asked you: How is the St. Andrews AFB Golf course funded?

Simple answer.
 

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It is called a shutdown and religious services being offered on taxpayer dime are not essential. If you do not like it feel free to restart the government and all of it's services. No you do not just get what you want when you force everything to shutdown. That is not how it works, and yes this means that we will not be paying for catholicism in the mean time and I am OK with that.

I do have to say the mass amount of whining and complaining about the shutdown seems to be coming from the people who want it. You wanted it now suck it up.



The way Obama is attacking like a rabid dog the American people is what people are complaining about...Obama is purposefully attacking the people of these United States with absurd and quite frankly counter productive measures, taken for no other reason than he's a spoiled brat who don't like to be told no, like everyone on the Left.
 

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The way Obama is attacking like a rabid dog the American people is what people are complaining about...Obama is purposefully attacking the people of these United States with absurd and quite frankly counter productive measures, taken for no other reason than he's a spoiled brat who don't like to be told no, like everyone on the Left.

or he's a politician being political. You know, sort of like the republicans in forcing this shutdown. Not sure why everyone wants to ignore that and act amazed, but get this, water is also wet
 

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did you even bother reading that article?

like the 2nd or third paragraph:

<<<The seeming randomness of the U.S. government’s first shutdown in 17 years can be explained in part by anomalies in the spending Congress does and doesn’t control. Activities funded by fees from drug, financial-services and other companies are insulated from year-to-year budget dysfunction. The ones that get a budget from Congress get hit.>>>

Which is why several appropriations bills have been proposed which Obama and Reid have rejected time and time again. That's the way Government used to work. It's in the article. Obviously you only read to that paragraph because these are the paragraphs immediately following that you left out. Nice Fail :lol:

"What’s really happening in America is that the appropriations process has completely failed,” said Elaine Kamarck, a senior fellow in governance at the Brookings Institution in Washington who worked in the White House during the last shutdown in 1995-96.

This isn’t government according to U.S. civics textbooks. Government is supposed to collect taxes, the president is supposed to propose each year how to spend the money, and Congress has the final say with the constitutional power of the purse.

Seriously, you're another one. Another Obot who buys into the latest narrative crafted by this fraud in the WH. His cronies at the Pentagon are claiming poverty and withholding benfits for families of KIA. They won't even pay for the plane flight of the relatives to come to the funeral. This is for people who died for their country. The ocean being blocked. Monuments and memorials being blocked by armed thugs. Veterans being arrested. All by this filthy administration that is abusing it's power. It sickens me that people like you exist out there that defend this Fascism.

The Government is still running. The EBT cards are still being swiped. The welfare checks are coming in. The rampant fraud in the Disability system is still paying people to sit on their a$$, claim they have back spasms, and get paid. The buffoonery of Obama supporters knows no limits

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If Obama went on a vacation right now you'd defend it and you know it. Just admit that you would :lol:
 

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or he's a politician being political. You know, sort of like the republicans in forcing this shutdown. Not sure why everyone wants to ignore that and act amazed, but get this, water is also wet

Republicans didn't force a shut down

Reid and Obama forced the issue because they refuse to negotiate. They want to keep themselves and their corporate cronies exempt from teir obamacare fascist law. Government is still running at 85% capacity and doing just fine. Obama has to create "shutdown theatre" like a petulant despot
 

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Republicans didn't force a shut down

Reid and Obama forced the issue because they refuse to negotiate. They want to keep themselves and their corporate cronies exempt from teir obamacare fascist law. Government is still running at 85% capacity and doing just fine. Obama has to create "shutdown theatre" like a petulant despot

Bottoms up Kobie!
 

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Which is why several appropriations bills have been proposed which Obama and Reid have rejected time and time again.

what does that have to do with the article you posted or the fact that golf course is funded by user fees? I'm sorry if this process confuses you, but you don't get to call a mulligan because you got your card pulled over making buffoonish claims


Seriously, you're another one. Another Obot

I literally just got done posting in another thread about how Obama has been a completely failure as both political leader and his role as an executive. Seriously, do you even think about what you're posting, or are you some type of semi-sentient spambot that just rattles off pre-programmed bull**** because you lack the intelligence to write something meaningful?


If Obama went on a vacation right now you'd defend it and you know it. Just admit that you would

Actually I wouldn't even care, due to the fact it's the type of political fodder that appeals to dip****s
 
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what does that have to do with the article you posted or the fact that golf course is funded by user fees? I'm sorry if this process confuses you, but you don't get to call a mulligan because you got your card pulled over making buffoonish claims

I literally just got done posting in another thread about how Obama has been a completely failure as both political leader and his role as an executive. Seriously, do you even think about what you're posting, or are you some type of semi-sentient spambot that just rattles off pre-programmed bull**** because you lack the intelligence tyo wrote something meaningful?

Actually I wouldn't even care, due to the fact it's the type of political fodder that appeals to dip****s

Careful Doc, you're extremely close to getting gigged. He ain't worth it. Just have a shot of JW whenever he says fascist or obot.
 

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what does that have to do with the article you posted or the fact that golf course is funded by user fees? I'm sorry if this process confuses you, but you don't get to call a mulligan because you got your card pulled over making buffoonish claims

He blocks WW2 memorials (PRIVATELY FUNDED). He kicks old people out of their homes. He closes the grocery stores, yet leaves the golf course open. Suddenly the fact that something is privately funded is relevant? You're probably the same fascist who defended the WW2 memorial being wired shut. Try and have a consistent position please. Oh I forgot, you're an Obot. That's not possible.

I literally just got done posting in another thread about how Obama has been a completely failure as both political leader and his role as an executive. Seriously, do you even think about what you're posting, or are you some type of semi-sentient spambot that just rattles off pre-programmed bull**** because you lack the intelligence to write something meaningful?

Again dip*&^% Congress has passed several appropriations bills that FUND everything that Obama is wiring shut. Obama and Reid have rejected every single one of those appropriations bills because they refuse to negotiate. That's what the article said that you didn't bother to read past the 3rd paragraph. I don't follow you around in threads to know what you post. The only thing I DO know is in this thread you are embarrassing yourself, pandering the same false premise and phony narrative, which is suddenly Obama doesn't have the money to pay the bills. This is just another Sequester Jester. If you're falling for it, than you're even dumber than previously thought humanly possible.

Actually I wouldn't even care, due to the fact it's the type of political fodder that appeals to dip****s

You care, which is why you will respond again, completely off topic and looking like a fool. The fact that the golf course is privately funded proves my point. Obama won't block that, but he will block WW2 memorials, national monuments and he's even threatening private businesses with shut down. I don't know what stories you've been reading or where you get your news, but you really need to wake the &^%$ up and stop being a part of the problem.

Careful Doc, you're extremely close to getting gigged. He ain't worth it. Just have a shot of JW whenever he says fascist or obot.

You're trying way too hard. Your butthurt is showing
 

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The golf course on Andrews Airforce base has remained open. Obama closed down the stores so people couldn't buy food, but he left his golf course open

Troops Forage for Food While Golfers Play On in Shutdown - Bloomberg

So in other words this does not get money from congress for it's operations and therefor stays open by funding from elsewhere. Now maybe you can explain why things not included in the budget are going to shut down because there is no budget? It is not like the republicans stopped payment for these operations so there is no reason for them to shut down. It would also seem that this is pure manipulative BS on you part.


The Government isn't shut down. 83% of it is running smoothly. It's still going to pay it's bills. Enough with the histrionics. Go back to your handlers and have them type you up some different talking points.

Whatever your handlers in the Obama Administration are paying you, it's not enough

Well, you are complaining about irrelevant points. If this is not so bad feel free to quit your bitchin. Catholic services have been shut down by republicans in an attempt to get Obamacare revoked. If you want them restarted then feel free to tell republicans to fund those government programs. If it is fine for you for the reps to hold those services hosyage so we do not get Obamacare then you have nothing at all to complain about.
 

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So in other words this does not get money from congress for it's operations and therefor stays open by funding from elsewhere. Now maybe you can explain why things not included in the budget are going to shut down because there is no budget? It is not like the republicans stopped payment for these operations so there is no reason for them to shut down. It would also seem that this is pure manipulative BS on you part.

This is absolute buffoonery

The Government is taking in more tax money than ever. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. The corporate fat cats get their Obamacare exemptions while the poor and middle class get *&^%$ up the keester. Oh that's right, equality means we all take it up the *&^% in Obama's utopia except the rich

Well, you are complaining about irrelevant points. If this is not so bad feel free to quit your bitchin. Catholic services have been shut down by republicans in an attempt to get Obamacare revoked. If you want them restarted then feel free to tell republicans to fund those government programs. If it is fine for you for the reps to hold those services hosyage so we do not get Obamacare then you have nothing at all to complain about.

Catholic services got shut down because Obama is an Authoritarian Fascist moron who wants to trample on religious freedom
 

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I generally agree with you here, but certain elements of the shut down have seemingly been managed for political effect and theater. But that's the nature of politics and hardly surprising

It is not surprising considering we have a democrat president. If we had a republican president there would be more leeway for programs they liked and dislike. The republicans expect their stuff to happen and the dems to take the hit for their hissy fit and i see no reason for that to be the case. the republicans want to play this game and part of that is sucking it up for the sacrifices they deem necessary for the end to obamacare. Any time they do not want it we can have a vote in the house on the CR and be done with it. If you want to call that playing politics that is fine. i call it dealing with the consequences of the choices you make. It is the same thing as dealing with getting arrested for illegal protests. It is the same thing as being arrested for not paying your taxes out of protest. It is the same thing as paying the fine rather than getting health insurance. It is just the system. If you cannot get the vbotes to change things then they should not change for you unless the laws are unconsitutional which in the case of Obamacare they are not.
 

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Re: Priests Risk Arrest for Offering Sacraments to Catholic Troops During Shutdown

The way Obama is attacking like a rabid dog the American people is what people are complaining about...Obama is purposefully attacking the people of these United States with absurd and quite frankly counter productive measures, taken for no other reason than he's a spoiled brat who don't like to be told no, like everyone on the Left.

He is not attacking me or any of the other american people. The republicans have attacked our services and are preventing them from happening. This is the result of their refusal to vote in the house on a budget they should be voting on. This has nothing at all to do with Obama and you are lying.
 

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This is absolute buffoonery

The Government is taking in more tax money than ever. The rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. The corporate fat cats get their Obamacare exemptions while the poor and middle class get *&^%$ up the keester. Oh that's right, equality means we all take it up the *&^% in Obama's utopia except the rich



Catholic services got shut down because Obama is an Authoritarian Fascist moron who wants to trample on religious freedom

No these things got shut down because the republicans refuse to have a vote on the CR which would fuind these things. If there was a vote allowed by boehner then there would be funding and these things would continue. Obama has not vetoed a single thing as of yet and therefor we cannot blame him for a single thing. If you would like to see if he would veto something you have to put it on his desk and they have not put it on his desk. You are manipulating the truth and being dishonest about the situation.
 

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It is not surprising considering we have a democrat president. If we had a republican president there would be more leeway for programs they liked and dislike.

That was my point: both are working with what they have for leverage.


If you want to call that playing politics that is fine.

It wasn't a swipe at anyone. it's pointing out that politicians are going to be political. And it's the kind of stuff parliamentarian systems are built on.
 
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