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Presidential Dream Ticket

The_Real_ElRoi

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Presidential Dream Ticket

Barack Obama and Chuck Hagel
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So far, the 2008 election has focused on growing challenges at home, including the fallout from the sub-prime mortgage crisis, escalating gas prices, and health care for millions of uninsured. But another leading policy challenge for the next administration is cleaning up the mess from the Bush administration's national security policies and making a clean break from the past seven years. Speaking at the Center for American Progress yesterday, Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) offered a vision for moving forward: "Military power alone will not achieve the great objectives that are going to be required to meet these new 21st century challenges; it's going to require a 21st century framework of thinking, of policymaking, of structure." Hagel suggested that "reintroducing America to the world will be as important as any one thing this next President has to do, because if we lose the next generation of the world, the problems will then be so immense that we will never be able to get out from under them." Hagel's view is rare among conservatives, most of whom continue to march in lockstep with President Bush's disastrous national security policies. Acknowledging that Iraq continues to be mired in violence, Hagel stressed once again that "there is no military solution in Iraq, [and] the military guys understand that more than anyone, because we put all the burden on them. All the burden on them."
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I guess you did not know that Hagel is a Republican and a staunch conservative and that Obama is a Democrat and a flaming Liberal..........

Don't see them becoming running mates.......
 
I guess you did not know that Hagel is a Republican and a staunch conservative and that Obama is a Democrat and a flaming Liberal..........

Don't see them becoming running mates.......

It's a dream ticket. We can all dream ;)

I like Hagel. I could go with that. Next dream ticket?
 
It's a dream ticket. We can all dream ;)

I like Hagel. I could go with that. Next dream ticket?
How about Obama & Sen. Webb from Virginia? That's a nice balance and Webb is also from a battleground state.
 
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It's a dream ticket. We can all dream ;)

I like Hagel. I could go with that. Next dream ticket?


That is odd because with the exception of the war he probably disagrees with you on every issue.........
 
How about Obama & Sen. Webb from Virginia? That's a nice balance and Webb is also from a battleground state.


Can't see that either.........Webb is very Conservative.............Look for him to pick someone like Governor Rendell of Pa...........Pa. is also a battleground state.........
 
I guess you did not know that Hagel is a Republican and a staunch conservative and that Obama is a Democrat and a flaming Liberal..........

Don't see them becoming running mates.......

1) Your definition of 'conservative' is extremely suspect right now. As you stated that you believe that Huckabee who increased taxes and increased government is 'conservative' it is hard to accept your definition

2) Hagel could actually work with Obama given his record. This could actually happen. Just because people have different letters after their names doesn't mean they can't work together.
 
1) Your definition of 'conservative' is extremely suspect right now. As you stated that you believe that Huckabee who increased taxes and increased government is 'conservative' it is hard to accept your definition

2) Hagel could actually work with Obama given his record. This could actually happen. Just because people have different letters after their names doesn't mean they can't work together.

One is a Conservative the other is a Liberal...never happen in amillion years


Hagel is pro life...
Anto Gay Marriage
Pro Tax cuts
Pro Gun
Pro small Government..........

All things Obama is not..........

With the exception of the war he is the opposite of Obama.......

You sure are hung up on Huckabee..........
 
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I'm rooting for Obama/Richardson and McCain/Huckabee.
 
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I'm rooting for Obama/Richardson and McCain/Huckabee.

Never happen for Huckabee...........Look for Gov. Pawlenty from Minnesota......He is young and a strong Conservative.....He will help Mccain carry that state........Richardson is a possibility though........He would help carry NM although that state does not have many Electoral votes.....
 
Can't see that either.........Webb is very Conservative.............Look for him to pick someone like Governor Rendell of Pa...........Pa. is also a battleground state.........
PA's Governonr was the Clinton campaign chair in PA for the primary there is no way that he would pick him.

Re Webb his conservatism is what balances the ticket which is the entire point of choosing a running mate. Another excellent alternative would be former VA governor Mark Warner.
 
PA's Governonr was the Clinton campaign chair in PA for the primary there is no way that he would pick him.

Re Webb his conservatism is what balances the ticket which is the entire point of choosing a running mate. Another excellent alternative would be former VA governor Mark Warner.

Obama can't choose Warner. Mark Warner is currently running for the Senate, and picking him would basically mean giving the Republicans a Senate seat.
 
PA's Governonr was the Clinton campaign chair in PA for the primary there is no way that he would pick him.

Re Webb his conservatism is what balances the ticket which is the entire point of choosing a running mate. Another excellent alternative would be former VA governor Mark Warner.

We are talking about the national election......Rendell will take the VP if offered........Virginia always goes republican....Webb won't help........

Sorry no way does Obama pick a Conservative..........
 
Never happen for Huckabee...........Look for Gov. Pawlenty from Minnesota......He is young and a strong Conservative.....He will help Mccain carry that state........Richardson is a possibility though........He would help carry NM although that state does not have many Electoral votes.....
Minnesota has 10 electoral votes and New Mexico has 5 hardly a substantial difference.

I believe sir that I recall you being a strong supporter of the Rasmussen polling organization? Here is what they're saying about Obama v. McCain in Minnesota:
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in the state shows that Barack Obama leads McCain by double-digits, 52% to 38%. A month ago, the Democratic frontrunner’s lead over McCain was just four points.
Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.

I also want to remind you that once it's a head to head contest McCain's support will weaken in Democratic states AND Obama has the opportunity to turn red states purple and then blue.
 
Obama can't choose Warner. Mark Warner is currently running for the Senate, and picking him would basically mean giving the Republicans a Senate seat.
Thank you for clarifying. Has Warner announced officially that he is running?
 
Minnesota has 10 electoral votes and New Mexico has 5 hardly a substantial difference.

I believe sir that I recall you being a strong supporter of the Rasmussen polling organization? Here is what they're saying about Obama v. McCain in Minnesota:

Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.

I also want to remind you that once it's a head to head contest McCain's support will weaken in Democratic states AND Obama has the opportunity to turn red states purple and then blue.

By my count that is twice as many..........

Butter stoch he has not named the governor his running mate yet.............
 
How about Obama & Sen. Webb from Virginia? That's a nice balance and Webb is also from a battleground state.

I could get behind that too. I would just like to see Obama rise above all the partisan BS. Lincoln had several Democrats in his cabinet. That's why I say he should ask Hagel to be his VP. Hell, Hagal has supported very little of the NeoCon agenda and from the way the Republican heavies like Roy Blunt talk, it doesn't sound like they plan to change things much if McBush gets the WH.
 
Every election there is speculation that one of the nominees could/should pick a member of the opposing party as VP, to show "unity"...and every election it's a bad idea.


A VP's basic responsibility is to assume the presidency if necessary. So let's assume that Obama became president and died in office...do you really want Chuck Hagel to be president?

Same goes for you Republicans. Let's assume that McCain became president and died in office...do you really want Joe Lieberman to be president?

Maybe a few people do, but most members of the winning party would not. Furthermore, having a VP from the opposing party would create all kinds of awkward situations when the administration was trying to present a unified face to the public.

It's just much more trouble than it's worth.
 
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1) Your definition of 'conservative' is extremely suspect right now. As you stated that you believe that Huckabee who increased taxes and increased government is 'conservative' it is hard to accept your definition

2) Hagel could actually work with Obama given his record. This could actually happen. Just because people have different letters after their names doesn't mean they can't work together.

I must concur on both points.
 
PA's Governonr was the Clinton campaign chair in PA for the primary there is no way that he would pick him.

Re Webb his conservatism is what balances the ticket which is the entire point of choosing a running mate. Another excellent alternative would be former VA governor Mark Warner.

I try not to indulge him, he being Navy Pride. He will only rant more vigorously if you try to use reason and logic on him.
 
Every election there is speculation that one of the nominees could/should pick a member of the opposing party as VP, to show "unity"...and every election it's a bad idea.


A VP's basic responsibility is to assume the presidency if necessary. So let's assume that Obama became president and died in office...do you really want Chuck Hagel to be president?

Same goes for you Republicans. Let's assume that McCain became president and died in office...do you really want Joe Lieberman to be president?

Maybe a few people do, but most members of the winning party would not. Furthermore, having a VP from the opposing party would create all kinds of awkward situations when the administration was trying to present a unified face to the public.

It's just much more trouble than it's worth.

Point taken. How about Hagel for Secretary of State then?
 
One is a Conservative the other is a Liberal...never happen in a million years

Trying to use a term you have no understanding of is hardly a good way of making an argument.

And under your argument, no 'conservative' or 'liberal' could ever work together. I guess the thousands of bills that have cosponsors from both parties don't actually exist.

I realize that my points which show your lack of skill are unnecessary as I'm late to the party and thus a late realizer of who you actually are.

Hagel is pro life...
Anto Gay Marriage
Pro Tax cuts
Pro Gun
Pro small Government..........

All things Obama is not..........

Are you making this up like you did with Huckabee's alleged conservatism or do you actually have a single fact for a change?

You sure are hung up on Huckabee..........

It is merely an example of your failure to understand Conservatism.
 
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