• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!
  • Welcome to our archives. No new posts are allowed here.

Presidential decision making

Which mindset makes a better President

  • A President should make a decision and stick with it even if shown to be wrong.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    12

disneydude

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 30, 2006
Messages
25,528
Reaction score
8,470
Location
Los Angeles
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
Is it better to have a President that makes a decision and stands by it, even if he/she is wrong?
Or
Is it better to have a President that is willing to change their mind and be flexible to new information?


Some people will argue that a President must appear strong and that changing your position/mind displays a sign of weakness.

Others will argue that a President who sticks to their guns is "stubborn" at the expense of sound judgement.

Is it better to have a President who changes their position or one who when a decision is made...sticks to it?
 
Wow. So when you know you are wrong you still tend to want to support it?

If you got to stick with a decision until the end how about you stick with something like "I'm always ready to prove I'm flexible and willing to adapt to better ideas!"
 
I like a president who does not read the polls to make a decision like "Slick Willie" use to do.......
 
^
I can accept that. That is one of the complaints that I had about Clinton. However, I do believe that a President should at least be mindful of the interests of the public....not necessarily adhere to their every whim.
However...the purpose of the post was to debate whether changing your position is a good thing or a bad thing. I understand the rationale of some people that maybe it is a good thing for a President to stand firm (even if shown to be wrong)...however, I disagree. I think you have to always keep an open mind. However, the problem with politics is that when someone is open minded and changes a position, people are quick to paint them as weak or the right-wing talking point "flip-flopper" .

Why is that? Why is it not OK in the right-wing world to change your position? Is it because most adhere to the first belief that it is always better to look firm? or is it political manipulation?
 
I like a president who does not read the polls to make a decision like "Slick Willie" use to do.......

I like a president who does not ignore or misunderstand facts to make a decision like "Chimpanzee George" does..........
 
I like a president who does not ignore or misunderstand facts to make a decision like "Chimpanzee George" does..........

Here we get into the name calling...........Did not take very long this time........:roll:
 
I like a president who does not ignore or misunderstand facts to make a decision like "Chimpanzee George" does..........

Facts like you and Cindy Sheehan believe? No thank you......
 
I'm with NP on this one actually. I dont need to know public opinion in order to form my own.

However, to answer the OP; Being a rational intellectual means you're willing to change your mind in face of the facts.
 
what a frivilous poll
who would continue on the same path after having already been shown to be wrong

yeah, i know, you all are going to scream bush

but he has a different opinion on how things have gone
and he is privy to how things are going to go, or atleast how he is going to try and make them go

so it is not the same thing
 
Originally Posted by Navy Pride
I like a president who does not read the polls to make a decision like "Slick Willie" use to do.......

Here we get into the name calling...........Did not take very long this time........:roll:

ROTFLMFAO!!!!
 
Presidential decision making...

...are best left up to the "decider"?

mmmmm...
 
No honest, thinking human being never changes his mind. In fact, I would say only the dead really can't change their minds.
 
I like a president who does not read the polls to make a decision like "Slick Willie" use to do.......
Yeah damn that popular opinion, that really shouldn't matter in a democracy should it?
 
ROTFLMFAO!!!!


I did not give him that name........It could be construed as a compliment on what a wheeler and dealer Clinton is.......Calling the president what you did can only be construed as and insult..........
 
I did not give him that name........It could be construed as a compliment on what a wheeler and dealer Clinton is.
Totally untrue AND you definitely used it as an insult. Every time you write about President Clinton it's negative and every time you write about him you call him "Slick Willie"! EVERY TIME NAVY PRIDE, EVERY TIME!

The hypocrisy in your last post is monumental.
 
That was in regard to polls by left wing organizations........
Such as whom Navy Pride? How about a little accountability for your accusations? What "left wing organizations" are you referring to specifically re polling and show us exact polls that back up your accusation.
 
He called Bush a chimp in response to your calling Clinton "Slick Willie" and then you complain about name calling when it was YOU NAVY PRIDE who started it!

Hypocrisy yet again.

Read post 15 my left wing friend..........
 
Totally untrue AND you definitely used it as an insult. Every time you write about President Clinton it's negative and every time you write about him you call him "Slick Willie"! EVERY TIME NAVY PRIDE, EVERY TIME!

The hypocrisy in your last post is monumental.

Hey I have a friend and his nickname is "Slick" and he takes it as a compliment........:confused:
 
Originally posted by Navy Pride:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder my left wing friend............
I thought I was your "left wing friend!"

You two-timing neocon...........you used me!
 
I did not give him that name........It could be construed as a compliment on what a wheeler and dealer Clinton is.......Calling the president what you did can only be construed as and insult..........

Sorry I misunderstood your intent to compliment President Clinton. However, I consider the term "Slick Willie" an insult to him. So I'll tell you want, you stop using derogatory names like "Slick Willie" and "Ice Princess Hillary" and I won't use "Chimpanzee George," OK?
 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom